Re: [Finale] Scanning printed music into Finale

2007-08-26 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Hmm, funny, I remember reading this on the Finalemusic.com site. http://www.finalemusic.com/finale/features/enteringnotes/scanning.aspx Stephen Ellis wrote: Is there a third-party software that will actually allow you to scan music and use it in Finale? Sees like I heard about one some time

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread Ken Moore
John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is actually that the trumpet has become the all-purpose instrument, needed for orchestral work, jazz band work, and marching band work. The cornet, especially one played with the proper mouthpiece and technique, is a vanishing voice out of

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread dhbailey
Sure -- I'm always open to new possibilities and even if it won't be right for my community band, I speak with others for whom it might be a perfect fit. Thanks! David Aaron Rabushka wrote: I don't know yet--it's only been out a few weeks. The wind ensemble marking was MMB's idea rather

Re: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

2007-08-26 Thread dhbailey
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: dhbailey wrote: MB wrote: [snip] In 1992, Congress enacted a law that made renewal automatic for works published between 1964 and 1978. However, if a work was published [snip] This baffles me, since the 1978 rewrite of the U.S. Copyright law automatically extended

Re: [Finale] Removing alternate clefs indications

2007-08-26 Thread dhbailey
Lora Crighton wrote: --- John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is a perfectly ordinary Incipit, showing the original clefs, key signature and mensuration sign. That information is important, and I'm not sure why you want to delete it. I would always include that in any edition of mine,

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread dhbailey
Ken Moore wrote: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is actually that the trumpet has become the all-purpose instrument, needed for orchestral work, jazz band work, and marching band work. The cornet, especially one played with the proper mouthpiece and technique, is a

Re: [Finale] Scanning printed music into Finale

2007-08-26 Thread dhbailey
Stephen Ellis wrote: Is there a third-party software that will actually allow you to scan music and use it in Finale? Sees like I heard about one some time ago for Windows (but not for Macs). Any thoughts? Sharpeye, available from www.recordare.com will produce MusicXML output which can

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread Raymond Horton
dhbailey wrote: Ken Moore wrote: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is actually that the trumpet has become the all-purpose instrument, needed for orchestral work, jazz band work, and marching band work. The cornet, especially one played with the proper mouthpiece and

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread Raymond Horton
dhbailey wrote: Ken Moore wrote: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The problem is actually that the trumpet has become the all-purpose instrument, needed for orchestral work, jazz band work, and marching band work. The cornet, especially one played with the proper mouthpiece and

Re: [Finale] Scanning printed music into Finale

2007-08-26 Thread Stephen Ellis
I have read that as well. Have you any experience with it? I am interested in actual use, not company hype! On Aug 26, 2007, at 2:57 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Hmm, funny, I remember reading this on the Finalemusic.com site.

Re: [Finale] Scanning printed music into Finale

2007-08-26 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Stephen Ellis / 2007/08/26 / 01:12 AM wrote: Is there a third-party software that will actually allow you to scan music and use it in Finale? Sees like I heard about one some time ago for Windows (but not for Macs). Any thoughts? A few years ago, I scanned my own music as TIF then brought

Re: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

2007-08-26 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:06 PM 8/23/2007 -0600, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Section (h) (8) (A) explicitly defines source country for the purposes of of Title 17 Section 104, as A nation other than the United States. Accordingly, (h) (6) (B) specifically applies to items in the public domain in the United States, but

[Finale] Sibelius demo in the MD public schools

2007-08-26 Thread Lawrence David Eden
The boys from Sibelius ran a marketing demo for the General Music teachers in the public schools. I teach Instrumental Music at 4 elementary schools and did not see the demo, but EVERY general music teacher I run into can't stop talking bout how cool Sibelius is. During my 30+ years of

Re: [Finale] Sibelius demo in the MD public schools

2007-08-26 Thread Eric Dannewitz
What I don't get is why some schools are using Sibelius, like pushing it hard in arranging classes, yet at the same time using SmartMusic in class..it is like they forget totally about Finale..I'm surprised that MakeMusic doesn't offer some sort of incentive program for schools to

RE: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread Guy Hayden
I have found that trumpeters who do not play cornet will insist that there is no difference between the two instruments. OTH, cornetists will insist that a marked difference exists. As both a band and orchestra conductor I do recognize a difference in the sound. Mind you, I grew up (mid-50s)

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread Carl Dershem
Guy Hayden wrote: I have found that trumpeters who do not play cornet will insist that there is no difference between the two instruments. OTH, cornetists will insist that a marked difference exists. As both a band and orchestra conductor I do recognize a difference in the sound. Mind you, I

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread arabushk
And while we're on the subject, my current project calls for three players to alternate quite often between fluegelhorns and trumpets. Can any of the trumpeters here enlighten me as to whether orchestral trumpters would have preferences for the trumpet parts to be written in B-flat or C in these

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hey Aaron, It will definitely be easier on the player to write for Bb trumpet doubling fluegelhorn, so that the entire part is in Bb. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 26 Aug 2007, at 1:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And while we're on the subject, my current

Re: [Finale] Sibelius demo in the MD public schools

2007-08-26 Thread John Howell
At 12:06 PM -0400 8/26/07, Lawrence David Eden wrote: Now I am seeing Sibelius stick it to Finale. I have not used Sibelius, nor do I intend to, but I am concerned to see MakeMusic take a back seat to any other notation software. On this list, I hear mostly complaints about Finale. Why is

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On 26-Aug-07, at 1:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And while we're on the subject, my current project calls for three players to alternate quite often between fluegelhorns and trumpets. Can any of the trumpeters here enlighten me as to whether orchestral trumpters would have preferences

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread John Howell
Guy Hayden wrote: I have found that trumpeters who do not play cornet will insist that there is no difference between the two instruments. I suspect that you would also find that those players use mouthpieces with the same cup, throat, and rim as their trumpet mouthpieces, the only

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread John Howell
At 3:17 PM -0400 8/26/07, John Howell wrote: Guy Hayden wrote: I have found that trumpeters who do not play cornet will insist that there is no difference between the two instruments. I suspect that you would also find that those players use mouthpieces with the same cup, throat, and rim as

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread Aaron Rabushka
Sounds logical to me, but I wanted to double-check. Thanks! Aaron J. Rabushka [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk - Original Message - From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 2:58 PM Subject: Re: [Finale]

Re: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

2007-08-26 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Back in my cute-but-dumb days, I set several forbidden texts, and the compositions are now not publishable or even performable (technically, anyway). Good pieces, too. It seems to me that there is a creative way around this, though finding a publisher might be a

Re: [Finale] Scanning printed music into Finale

2007-08-26 Thread dhbailey
A-NO-NE Music wrote: Stephen Ellis / 2007/08/26 / 01:12 AM wrote: Is there a third-party software that will actually allow you to scan music and use it in Finale? Sees like I heard about one some time ago for Windows (but not for Macs). Any thoughts? A few years ago, I scanned my own

Re: [Finale] Sibelius demo in the MD public schools

2007-08-26 Thread dhbailey
Lawrence David Eden wrote: The boys from Sibelius ran a marketing demo for the General Music teachers in the public schools. I teach Instrumental Music at 4 elementary schools and did not see the demo, but EVERY general music teacher I run into can't stop talking bout how cool Sibelius is.

Re: [Finale] Sibelius demo in the MD public schools

2007-08-26 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
John Howell wrote: Given a good product with low key marketing, and a poor product with aggressive marketing, it seems to get a lot more complicated. The aggressive marketing is going to gain market share at first, but the customers it gains will become disillusioned by the poor product and

Re: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

2007-08-26 Thread John Howell
At 3:09 PM -0600 8/26/07, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Back in my cute-but-dumb days, I set several forbidden texts, and the compositions are now not publishable or even performable (technically, anyway). Good pieces, too. It seems to me that there is a creative way

Re: [Finale] Sibelius demo in the MD public schools

2007-08-26 Thread John Howell
At 4:32 PM -0600 8/26/07, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Further, I noted that Sibelius is marketing to General Music teachers in public schools. I don't know how titles work in MD (or in most places, actually) but when I read the title General Music Teacher, I think of a grades 1-3 or 1-4, where

Re: [Finale] Scanning printed music into Finale

2007-08-26 Thread A-NO-NE Music
I just checked, and it still works with FinMac2k8: File Scanning Import and Existing TIFF File... Note that Finale can't read compressed TIFF file. I also don't know why FinMac doesn't recognize my HP scanner's kernel extension. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA

Re: [Finale] Sibelius demo in the MD public schools

2007-08-26 Thread Matthew Hindson fastmail acct
From: Lawrence David Eden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Finale] Sibelius demo in the MD public schools To: FinaleList Finale@shsu.edu Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed The boys from Sibelius ran a marketing demo for the General Music teachers

Re: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

2007-08-26 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: At 3:09 PM -0600 8/26/07, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Back in my cute-but-dumb days, I set several forbidden texts, and the compositions are now not publishable or even performable (technically, anyway). Good pieces, too. It seems to me that there is

Re: [Finale] OT permission to set poems

2007-08-26 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Aug 26, 2007, at 8:07 PM, John Howell wrote: But you still wouldn't have, and couldn't have, without permission, the text, so the logic of what your suggest escapes me. What would be the point? If I write a purely musical piece, with the instruction to be sung to the words of [poem]

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread Patrick Sheehan
I agree with you, David. When I orchestrate or arrange, and want a specific sound from an instrument family, I'll have no qualms about using an alto clarinet (non-doubled) or a couple flugelhorns, or whatever. I mandate that the ensemble find the instrument or don't play the piece; I'm that

Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music

2007-08-26 Thread Patrick Sheehan
Agree with you, John! Every part is independent! - Original Message - From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 4:37 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Turn-of-the-century Band Music At 2:40 PM -0400 8/25/07, Andrew Stiller wrote: On Aug 24,