Re: [Finale] Group Barline override Staff Barline

2012-06-22 Thread Robert Patterson
FWIW: The file was originally created in Fin97 when neither staff styles nor multi-select measure attributes was available. I of course know all the ways to do it now. What burns me is the arbitrary change in how the feature works and the failure of the upgrade process to report that I would need

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day

2012-06-22 Thread Fiskum, Steve
The only long standing bug with these windows is that when in Show Active Layer Only you cannot switch layers in any of the windows which can be a pain when copying percussion articulations. Steve On 6/21/12 4:18 PM, Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com wrote: Thank you, MakeMusic,

Re: [Finale] independent time signatures

2012-06-22 Thread Christopher Smith
Time signature metatools work with independent time sigs too, don't they? That could be very fast. Christopher On Fri Jun 22, at FridayJun 22 12:12 AM, Aaron Rabushka wrote: Has anyone here worked with the independent time signature feature (e.g., 5/2 in some parts against 15/4 in others)?

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day

2012-06-22 Thread Mark McCarron
there is a key command that switches (toggles) from score to last viewed part in the same window. For me this works much better.   Mark McCarron From: Fiskum, Steve fisk...@jspaluch.com To: finale@shsu.edu finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 9:55 AM

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day

2012-06-22 Thread Michael Mathew
I have used the toggle up until now. I can now see the immediate effect having the new window open and the two tiled and am able to make adjustments more easily and precisely. As with anything, I suppose, each person's mileage will differ? Michael mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com

[Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
perhaps related to something i did when setting up the doc... there are 3 renegade staves that don't appear in the score manager anywhere but appear on one page at the top of the score. when i 2-click on one of them, the piccolo Staff Attributes pop up and then when i click on the instrument

[Finale] staff groups reset removes my changes

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
in F2012 (recently upgraded from 2010) i am really having trouble with the way staff groups work. i have over 60 groups somehow defined in the document... when i reset all groups and brackets they are set to what finale thinks is right, not to what i defined in scroll view. for example, i

Re: [Finale] staff groups reset removes my changes

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
what is the best way to deal with this? set the piccolo in score manager to flute (so it appears as fl. 1) and then set the piccolo as a region in the score manager? even if it plays piccolo in the entire score? here i mean mid-score instrument change, of course...

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread John Blane
Hi Jef - Is it possible you are viewing an old staff set? On Jun 22, 2012, at 11:40 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote: perhaps related to something i did when setting up the doc... there are 3 renegade staves that don't appear in the score manager anywhere but appear on one page at the top of

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
thanks, but nope, that was in score view. but in any case, even if i was, it still shouldn't appear, because it doesn't exists (yikes!) Is it possible you are viewing an old staff set? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Fri, June 22, 2012 1:43 pm, SN jef chippewa wrote: thanks, but nope, that was in score view. but in any case, even if i was, it still shouldn't appear, because it doesn't exists (yikes!) I had this happen recently (in FinWin 2011). The renegade staff was somehow married to another staff in

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day

2012-06-22 Thread Mark McCarron
the tile command puts one window on the top half and the other window on the bottom half. Is there a quick way to position one window on the left and the other window on the right?   Mark McCarron From: Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com To:

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day

2012-06-22 Thread Michael Mathew
If I need side by side I have to do it myself. It would be handy, though, if there were a way to choose either side by side or top and bottom. Michael mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
i seem to be able to select the entire system (all measures, all instruments), hide empty staves, then show empty staves and all *seems* right... but i haven't done this permanently on the file yet (waiting to hear from support). are you able to hide/show and have it disappear? I had this

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Fri, June 22, 2012 2:59 pm, SN jef chippewa wrote: i seem to be able to select the entire system (all measures, all instruments), hide empty staves, then show empty staves and all *seems* right... but i haven't done this permanently on the file yet (waiting to hear from support). are you

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread Michael Mathew
Am I correct in assuming that you checked the score manager? That thing sometimes shows things that you aren't accessible otherwise.   mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl http://oregonmts.com/mathew/ From: SN jef

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
yes, the staves in question don't appear in the score manager. score manager looks totally clean. i can only assume they somehow left traces as i was setting up the score. and can only hope they don't cause problems later... Am I correct in assuming that you checked the score manager? That

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day

2012-06-22 Thread Fiskum, Steve
There are utility apps that will do that with a keystroke. You can also setup QuicKeys to do the same (if you are on MAC). Steve On 6/22/12 1:49 PM, Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com wrote: If I need side by side I have to do it myself. It would be handy, though, if there were a way to

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
i found some i can't even hide, even though i selected all measures in the system and cleared them. it does seem to be linked to the system in question: P2 and P4 look normal, P3 has 3 renegades; i moved the last measure of S3 up to the previous page, P2 and P4 sitll look fine, P3 (now

[Finale] Finale 2012 questions

2012-06-22 Thread J D Thomas
Hey all, Has anyone had any contact with Tobias about TGTools and whether he intends to continue their development? I emailed him a couple weeks ago and heard nothing back. I'm working on a file in Mac 2012 and Cross-Staff simply won't work. I hate the idea of having to kludge around with

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
i think the solution was to select all (whole document), show empty staves, reset brackets, then click on a single renegade stave and select hide empty stave (should do it for only that system), then select a real staff and show empty. selecting a renegade and pulling up context menu for

Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 questions

2012-06-22 Thread J D Thomas
Update: I did get TGTools to cross-staff. I was using the wrong keyboard shortcut. Doh!! But my overall concern about the future of TGT still lingers. I for one would be more than willing to pay for an upgrade. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Jun 22, 2012, at 12:53 PM, J D Thomas wrote: Hey

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
also very useful to see to what extent you have to compromise the smart shape positioning in the score so it looks good in the parts. especially when you need to copy the hairpins across several voices. It will be particularly helpful with placement of elements (dynamics, etc.) so that one

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
can anyone confirm (mac) that when you have one document hidden (minimized) and another visible, the tiling behaves as if the minimized doc was visble? i.e. a blank space appears as one of the tiles? same thing if you have 1 doc hidden and one visible, select new window, select tiling and

Re: [Finale] MakeMusic tip of the day

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
, also apparently when making clef changes in either SC or PT, you have to redraw the other before it becomes visible? The only long standing bug with these windows is that when in Show Active Layer Only you cannot switch layers in any of the windows which can be a pain when copying

Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 questions

2012-06-22 Thread Chuck Israels
If MM can buy Garritan, I don't see why they don't buy TG Tools and include them in Finale. Request for 2014? Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2012, at 2:12 PM, J D Thomas j...@thomastudios.com wrote: Update: I did get TGTools to cross-staff. I was using the wrong keyboard shortcut. Doh!!

Re: [Finale] Finale 2012 questions

2012-06-22 Thread Chuck Israels
Been a while, but Tobias has been responsive in the past. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2012, at 12:53 PM, J D Thomas j...@thomastudios.com wrote: Hey all, Has anyone had any contact with Tobias about TGTools and whether he intends to continue their development? I emailed him a couple

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2012-06-22 18:40, SN jef chippewa wrote: perhaps related to something i did when setting up the doc... there are 3 renegade staves that don't appear in the score manager anywhere but appear on one page at the top of the score. when i 2-click on one of them, the piccolo Staff Attributes

Re: [Finale] renegade staves i can't get rid of

2012-06-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Fri, June 22, 2012 4:29 pm, SN jef chippewa wrote: ah, dennis, try showing all, then reset groups / brackets (utilities menu) and hide again, does this work? i just managed to lose some renagades that were persistent. Everything's archived now, and I don't know where the renegade was. If I

[Finale] different artic positioning F2010/F2012

2012-06-22 Thread SN jef chippewa
anyone know why this would happen? trying to figure this out before i go through my 2012 template and change all my default settings. they are identical to my F2012 settings and the font annotation in F2012 is a copy of 2010 (just updated to verify) but the positioning of the flipped symbol

Re: [Finale] [Olist] Finale question regarding page numbers (I've already checked the Finale forum)

2012-06-22 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Fri, June 22, 2012 8:47 pm, Amy Scurria wrote: Is there an easy way to get Finale (2011) to place even page numbers in the left corner and odd page numbers in the right corner by default? The only thing I can think to do is create page numbers on each side and hide the alternate numbers as