Re: [Finale] Can't make PDFs from Finale 2k9 Mac

2009-06-18 Thread Jane Frasier
Finale does have a little window of time where if you buy an upgrade and 
the next one comes out soon they will give it to you for the price of 
postage. I had paid for 2008 not long before 2009 and I was able to get 
them to give me 2009. It is worth a try.


Jane

Johannes Gebauer wrote:

On 18.06.2009 J D Thomas wrote:

Time to seriously consider moving to Sibelius 6?

Couldn't resist.


Well. I certainly get the feeling that they actually fix things, 
whereas it seems with MakeMusic each version of Finale introuces more 
bugs. The worst ones seem to get fixed with the next payed upgrade, 
the rest never gets fixed at all.


A bug like this I simply expect to be fixed immediately. Ie within 
weeks rather than months.


I payed for the Finale 2k9 update only a few months ago. Lately I have 
not used Finale much, and I have only used 2k9 perhaps five times for 
very small jobs. Do I now have to get 2k10 to get this fixed? If that 
is the case Sibelius is becoming a very likely option. I am certainly 
not going to feed the folks at MM for their ridiculous bugs.


Johannes
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[Finale] Slurs

2009-05-28 Thread Jane Frasier
I have a score that I originally did in Finale several years ago. I 
don't remember what version. I have opened it in 2008 (I do have 2009 
but haven't really used it yet). I think that all the slurs are too high 
and too rounded. Is there a way to adjust the shape of all the slurs at 
once?


Thanks.

Jane
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Re: [Finale] quick duplication of expressions

2009-05-08 Thread Jane Frasier
I didn't know that but I don't seem to be able to get it to work. I 
clicked on a dynamic marking to select, held down Option and and arrow 
and what it did was nudge the expression a little up or down. What am I 
doing wrong?


Jane

Randolph Peters wrote:
I like the recent option of being able to quickly duplicate 
expressions on a staff above or below. On a Mac you select the 
expression and then hit option-up or down arrow and a copy shows up in 
the slot above or below. If you have a stack of similar parts, this 
can be a very fast way of entering data.


It would be great if you could now do the same thing with 
articulations, slurs, and hairpins.


Why not extend the method to the other tools? It would make Finale 
more consistent and it would be an efficiency boon.


This reminds me of the good old days when we used to think that our 
brainstorming and ideas might help.


-Randolph Peters
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Re: [Finale] Articulation question

2009-01-24 Thread Jane Frasier

Thanks. That's a good idea.

Jane

Christopher Smith wrote:


On Jan 23, 2009, at 11:57 PM, Jane Frasier wrote:

I am transcribing Arioso by Bach for brass quintet. In an early 
version of the work the strings are pizz. I want the brass to imitate 
that but obvious they can't pizz. How should I indicate that?


Staccatos, a low dynamic, and maybe quasi pizz. I'm always a big one 
for telling it like it is... 8-)


Christopher



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[Finale] Articulation question

2009-01-23 Thread Jane Frasier
I am transcribing Arioso by Bach for brass quintet. In an early version 
of the work the strings are pizz. I want the brass to imitate that but 
obvious they can't pizz. How should I indicate that?


Thanks.

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Re: [Finale]Multiple time signatures = was Beaming problem

2008-11-26 Thread Jane Frasier
Thanks for all the advise. I think I will just use the 3/4, 4/5, etc. 
time and beam and use slurs and accents to get the rhythmic sense of the 
melody.


I am the one that wanted to transcribe it. It was performed on piano on 
my graduate recital by an incredible pianist and composer and her 
comment after the performance was It isn't very pianistic so I thought 
perhaps it would work for band. As I get more into it I think I disagree 
and I am not sure how it will work. I might abandon it. I did finish the 
slow movement and it is easy. I'll bet your community bands could play 
it. I knew before I started that the first and last movements would only 
be appropriate for a college band or a semi-professional group.


I am wondering if any of you community band conductors would be 
interested in playing an arrangement I did of a traditional folk song. 
Email me if you are interested.


Thanks.

Jane

John Howell wrote:
I second David's comments completely, also writing from a community 
band/community orchestra viewpoint.  In fact, in the Holst David cites 
he includes careful instructions where to beat 1 to a bar (in the 
superimposed 3/4:6/8 sections) and where to go back to 2 to a bar 
(everything else). Interestingly enough, Holst included the same 
movement (not note for note, but VERY close) as the last movement of 
his St. Paul's Suite for Strings, which we also played this fall, and 
it has the same instructions.


Our band played the Holst under 2 different conductors this fall.  Our 
own conductor did not follow those instructions and beat 2 to a bar 
throughout, while our guest conductor did change to follow the 
instructions (as did a third conductor with our community string 
orchestra). Both approaches worked fine, once the players understood 
what was happening.


Jane:  If I read your explanation properly, you are writing in such a 
way that 1 bar still equals 1 bar, so your problem is with shifting 
subdivisions within each bar, right?  If I were writing anything 
similar, I would probably ask that the large-scale beat remain 
constant (as David suggests), and indicate the shifting note groupings 
within each bar through beaming, slurring, possibly bracketing if 
necessary, or perhaps even using articulations to define the 
subgroupings.  I would probably NOT use different time signatures 
within a given bar.  Would that work in your piece?


But David is completely correct.  Few (if any) community bands will 
attempt the more rhythmically-complex Stravinsky, let alone music with 
overlapping or competing time signatures that lack a unifying 
large-scale beat pattern. You have to understand that we have 
community musicians who lack advanced training in complex music and do 
their best at a Grade 3 difficulty level (and in our case we have 
some--mostly retired engineers, I'm sad to admit--who simply can't 
count rests properly!).  In a collegiate wind ensemble restricted to 
music majors or others equally competent, you might actually find some 
whose musicianship is as high as the average 6th grader in a good 
Kodály program in Hungary!!!


Just curious, but were you asked to transcribe your piece for band by 
someone who believes that it will be playable and effective?  If so, 
you have a great conductor to work with!


John


At 4:21 AM -0500 11/26/08, dhbailey wrote:
Speaking as a conductor of a community band, I can tell you that if 
you want more than a couple of collegiate ensembles to be interested 
in your band transcription, don't have that sort of 
multiple-time-signatures-at-once.


My band (and my conducting skills) have no problem with switching 
between various meters as long as the relationship is clear to the 
brain and the ear.  So moving between 3/4, 4/4 and 5/4 is no 
problem.  Moving between various x/8 meters is no problem.  Trying to 
have some of the band play in x/8 while others are playing in x/4 
simply won't work for any but the most advanced (read that as 
military or collegiate/conservatory) ensembles.  We can handle the 
3/4 vs 6/8 of Holst's Fantasy on the Dargason (final movement of the 
Second Suite in F for Military Band) but in that case one measure of 
one meter equals one measure of the other meter so beat 1 always 
lines up (intellectually and visually and aurally). Anything else 
will be too complex for once-a-week-rehearsal groups to master.


Good luck!
David



Jane Frasier wrote:

   No.
   Here is the other challenge. I am transcribing my piano sonata 
for band.
   There are sections of this where the left hand is playing a waltz 
type
   pattern but switching from 3/4 to 5/4 to 4/4, etc. The melody in 
the right
   hand is written as 6/8, 10/8, 8/8 with various groups of 2 or 3 
eighth
   notes. I think this works ok for piano, but what will the 
conductor do with
   this? I think it should be one of the other but I am not sure 
which meters

   would be easier to conduct and follow.
   Any ideas?
   Jane
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A Balkan

Re: [Finale]Multiple time signatures = was Beaming problem

2008-11-25 Thread Jane Frasier

   No.
   Here is the other challenge. I am transcribing my piano sonata for band.
   There are sections of this where the left hand is playing a waltz type
   pattern but switching from 3/4 to 5/4 to 4/4, etc. The melody in the right
   hand is written as 6/8, 10/8, 8/8 with various groups of 2 or 3 eighth
   notes. I think this works ok for piano, but what will the conductor do with
   this? I think it should be one of the other but I am not sure which meters
   would be easier to conduct and follow.
   Any ideas?
   Jane
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

A Balkan folk-dance beat, perhaps? :)

ajr



I am using Finale 2008 on Mac, OS 10.5.5.

I want a time signature to say 8/8 but I want it beamed 3+3+2. I created
a composite time signal of 3+3+2/8+8+8 and then a different time
signature 8/8 to display. When I put in the notes all the eighth notes
have separate stems -- no beams. I tried rebeaming according to time
signature and got the same result.

What am I missing?

Thanks so much.

Jane
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Re: [Finale] - Hindson and other fonts

2008-11-25 Thread Jane Frasier
I found this link: 
http://www.hindson.com.au/wordpress/free-fonts-available-for-download/


Matthew Hindson (gmail) wrote:

Dear Marcello,

Hmm, I did a search and cannot find the link to which you refer on my 
website.


There may have been 4 years ago or something.

Matthew Hindson


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On this site http://www.hindson.com.au/

there is a link to ftp://ftp.shsu.edu/pub/finale/ to download some 
alternate fonts for Finale

which requires a login.

Someone knows where to get that login or a page where to register in 
order to access that ftp site?

Thank you

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[Finale] Beaming problem

2008-11-24 Thread Jane Frasier

I am using Finale 2008 on Mac, OS 10.5.5.

I want a time signature to say 8/8 but I want it beamed 3+3+2. I created 
a composite time signal of 3+3+2/8+8+8 and then a different time 
signature 8/8 to display. When I put in the notes all the eighth notes 
have separate stems -- no beams. I tried rebeaming according to time 
signature and got the same result.


What am I missing?

Thanks so much.

Jane
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Re: [Finale] Beaming problem

2008-11-24 Thread Jane Frasier

Thanks. That was the solution.

Jane

Allen Fisher wrote:

Hi Jane--

Put 3+3+2 (including the plus signs) into the FIRST top box. Put an 8 
in the first bottom box. Leave the others blank, and change the 
display time signature.


On Nov 24, 2008, at 9:00 PM, Jane Frasier wrote:


I am using Finale 2008 on Mac, OS 10.5.5.

I want a time signature to say 8/8 but I want it beamed 3+3+2. I 
created a composite time signal of 3+3+2/8+8+8 and then a different 
time signature 8/8 to display. When I put in the notes all the eighth 
notes have separate stems -- no beams. I tried rebeaming according to 
time signature and got the same result.


What am I missing?

Thanks so much.

Jane
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[Finale] OT: HP Laserjet 5000 or 5100

2008-11-14 Thread Jane Frasier
I had an HP Laserjet 5000 and it was a great printer, however it has 
died. I have a brand new cartridge for it - the box never opened. It is 
a C4129X and the box also says 29x, high volume. I think I paid at least 
$150 for it. Since I don't have that printer I have no need for this. I 
would sell it to someone cheap and send it to you if you could use it.


Jane
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[Finale] Brain freeze

2008-10-12 Thread Jane Frasier
I haven't studied music seriously in many many years and my memory is 
terrible. I am writing program notes for a piece I wrote years ago and 
it has a 12 bar melody that repeats over and over again behind other 
musical lines. I can't think of what that is called. Help.


Thanks.

Jane
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Re: [Finale] Brain freeze

2008-10-12 Thread Jane Frasier

   Ostinato is the word I was trying to think of.  Thanks so much.
   Jane
   Adam Golding wrote:

Ground bass?

ostinato?


2008/10/12 Eric Dannewitz [1][EMAIL PROTECTED]



Passcaglia perhaps?

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I haven't studied music seriously in many many years and my memory is
terrible. I am writing program notes for a piece I wrote years ago and it
has a 12 bar melody that repeats over and over again behind other musical
lines. I can't think of what that is called. Help.

Thanks.

Jane
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Re: [Finale] Brain freeze

2008-10-12 Thread Jane Frasier
Behind was a strange for me to us. I just meant that while the ostinato 
is sounding other melodies are heard.


John Howell wrote:

At 2:36 PM -0700 10/12/08, Eric Dannewitz wrote:

A Bass can be a melody..and it is behind.


Of course it can, but in the case of either a passacaglia or chaconne 
it is not, it is a ground, in much the same way that an isorhythmic 
tenor COULD be called a melody, but as it was used int he 14th century 
it was not THE melody.  I don't understand the behind comment.


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Re: [Finale] Brain freeze

2008-10-12 Thread Jane Frasier

   I think that ostinato is the word I was looking for. Thanks.
   Jane
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Are you thinking chaconne or passacaglia?

Christopher

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Subject: [Finale] Brain freeze
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



I haven't studied music seriously in many many years and my
memory is
terrible. I am writing program notes for a piece I wrote years
ago and
it has a 12 bar melody that repeats over and over again behind
other
musical lines. I can't think of what that is called. Help.

Thanks.

Jane
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Re: [Finale] PDF problems

2008-10-04 Thread Jane Frasier
Thanks so much. That was it -- I had use Last Saved Settings in the 
printing dialog box. Then my webpage said it wasn't found but I realized 
it was an upper/lowercase issue. So much to figure out.


Christopher Smith wrote:


On Oct 3, 2008, at 11:00 PM, Jane Frasier wrote:

I have Mac OS 10.5.4, Finale 2008. I have a little clarinet solo that 
I was printing on tabloid, landscape, 2 up. In Finale I printed to 
PDF. Then I realized that I really wanted the .pdf to be on letter 
size, portrait. I redid it, overlying the first one. In Preview it 
looks fine.


However I am using an open source store and I uploaded the .pdf to 
the server. However, when you click on the link to View the Sample, 
it is displayed in Preview on tabloid, landscape!!! I deleted the 
.pdf on my computer and on the server and started over and got the 
same result. I have about half of the songs are letter and half are 
tabloid, landscape.  It is nuts.


Any ideas?

Thanks.

Jane


I have 10.4, but I think the issue might be similar.

You have to make sure that you select Page Setup and set the page size 
and orientation before printing. Then when you print, even if you are 
only using the PDF writer, you have to make sure the settings are for 
printing to letter size, portrait. On my Mac, I have set the Print and 
Fax options to use the last printer selected, so that means it retains 
the settings as well. If I have previously printed 2-up to tabloid 
landscape, that is what it remembers for the next time and the PDFs 
inherit this, too.


Most of the time, that is. There seems to be a separate issue that if 
I verify the settings, they are inherited. If I DON'T check them, then 
sometimes they are inherited, sometimes they aren't.


Christopher



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[Finale] PDF problems

2008-10-03 Thread Jane Frasier
I have Mac OS 10.5.4, Finale 2008. I have a little clarinet solo that I 
was printing on tabloid, landscape, 2 up. In Finale I printed to PDF. 
Then I realized that I really wanted the .pdf to be on letter size, 
portrait. I redid it, overlying the first one. In Preview it looks fine.


However I am using an open source store and I uploaded the .pdf to the 
server. However, when you click on the link to View the Sample, it is 
displayed in Preview on tabloid, landscape!!! I deleted the .pdf on my 
computer and on the server and started over and got the same result. I 
have about half of the songs are letter and half are tabloid, 
landscape.  It is nuts.


Any ideas?

Thanks.

Jane

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Re: [Finale] PDF problems

2008-10-03 Thread Jane Frasier
I am getting really varied results depending on whether I am on a Mac 
using Firefox or Safari or PC with IE7 or Firefox. Maybe this store 
software is not a good idea. On the PC the images didn't show in the 
catalog.




Jane Frasier wrote:
I have Mac OS 10.5.4, Finale 2008. I have a little clarinet solo that 
I was printing on tabloid, landscape, 2 up. In Finale I printed to 
PDF. Then I realized that I really wanted the .pdf to be on letter 
size, portrait. I redid it, overlying the first one. In Preview it 
looks fine.


However I am using an open source store and I uploaded the .pdf to the 
server. However, when you click on the link to View the Sample, it is 
displayed in Preview on tabloid, landscape!!! I deleted the .pdf on my 
computer and on the server and started over and got the same result. I 
have about half of the songs are letter and half are tabloid, 
landscape.  It is nuts.


Any ideas?

Thanks.

Jane

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[Finale] Size of Orchestra Score

2008-08-24 Thread Jane Frasier
I am engraving a composition for full orchestra plus SATB. The customer 
has asked for the score on 8.5 x 11 paper. At that size everything is 
so tiny I can't imagine it would be readable. What size of page do you 
use? In the past I have printed on 10 x 14 and that looked pretty 
good, but certainly not a standard paper size.


Also she wants the choral score in octavo size. I have seen lots of 
recent choral scores printed on 8.5 x 11. What do you think?


Thanks.

Jane
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Re: [Finale] Size of Orchestra Score

2008-08-24 Thread Jane Frasier

Thanks, Darcy. What about the octavo for choral?

Jane

Darcy James Argue wrote:

11x14 is standard and easily obtainable by cutting down from 11x17.

- Darcy
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On Aug 24, 2008, at 8:40 PM, Jane Frasier wrote:

I am engraving a composition for full orchestra plus SATB. The 
customer has asked for the score on 8.5 x 11 paper. At that size 
everything is so tiny I can't imagine it would be readable. What size 
of page do you use? In the past I have printed on 10 x 14 and that 
looked pretty good, but certainly not a standard paper size.


Also she wants the choral score in octavo size. I have seen lots of 
recent choral scores printed on 8.5 x 11. What do you think?


Thanks.

Jane
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Re: [Finale] TAN: 'Classical music' what is it?

2004-10-16 Thread Jane Frasier
I figured there would be lots of answers to this tough question. I 
personally think it doesn't matter what you call it. I touches your soul or 
it doesn't. It isn't so important to put music into categories.

Thanks for your feedback.
Jane
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Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2004 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Finale] TAN: 'Classical music' what is it?


On 16 Oct 2004, at 02:35 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
I wish Gunther Schuller (sp?)  were able to weigh in on this topic. His 
efforts at blending the  classical and jazz genres  were really 
significant. He called it Third Stream,  and  created some most 
interesting sounds. I don't think he's still alive, but I'm not sure.
Gunther's still with us, Dean.
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Re: [Finale] RE:TAN kind of

2004-10-15 Thread Jane Frasier
Thanks to everyone who contributed to this discussion. I now can see clearly 
that my plan was not going to be the right way to go about this.

Jane
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On Oct 14, 2004, at 5:56 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
BTW, if you've not done so already it might be worth your time do an 
internet search on the text, as you may find that the text you want to 
use is in fact in the public domain.  As I recall, they can put a 
copyright notice on the card, even if elements of the card--like the 
verse--are in the public domain.
Agreed, but with the caveat that this is only helpful if what you find on 
the Web is information that leads you to evidence of a genuine public 
domain (ie, pre-1923) source.  Just finding the same text on some random 
website doesn't prove anything. Very likely that website is itself 
infringing the copyright, and copying from an infringer doesn't get you 
off the hook.

mdl
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[Finale] TAN: 'Classical music' what is it?

2004-10-15 Thread Jane Frasier
I have been asked by some non-musician  friends what the definition of 
classical music is. How is it different from non-classical music. I have not 
been able to come up with a very good answer.

Are movie scores such as Star Wars classical music? I would say no probably.
Jane 

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[Finale] TAN kind of

2004-10-14 Thread Jane Frasier
I want to use the text on a greeting card for a choral work. I have 
contacted the greeting card company via email, but have not heard anything. 
Is it legal to send them a certified letter that says something like, I 
would like to use this text for a musical work and if I don't hear from you 
by January 1, 2005 I will assume that permission is granted?

Jane Frasier 

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Re: [Finale] RE:TAN kind of

2004-10-14 Thread Jane Frasier
To my surprise I just got an email from them saying they don't give 
permission to use their text. Oh well. I am not surprised that they don't 
give permission, but that I actually got a reply this quickly from a Legal 
Assistant.

Jane
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From: Ryan Beard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: finale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:11 PM
Subject: [Finale] RE:TAN kind of


No. If they don't respond, it means that they don't
want to grant you permission. You can still send a
certified letter, but as someone who deals with
permissions quite frequently, a certified letter isn't
going to get my attention any more than a regular
piece of mail would.
I would make a phone call to the company if you have
their number. Ask the receptionist for the name of the
person or a direct fax or phone number you can contact
them with. Once you contact that person, tell them
your plans. They'll usualy require a request in
writing (consider your email lost, by the way), and
ask them what kind of information they need to
consider your request. Come up with a production
plan, too. They'll probably want to know how many
copies of this choral work you intend to sell, give
away, etc. They might even want approval of your
music. It's their copyrighted text, you have to follow
their rules if you want to use it
It's also entirely possible that they don't own the
copyright on the particular chunk of text you want to
use. They might have licensed it from the author who
still owns the copyright. In that case, they'll have
to notify the author, and get permission from him or
to to act on their behalf. Alternatively, they could
have forwarded your emailed request to the author who
just chooses to ignore you. Rude, but perfectly legal.
In any case, these things take timee. Ultimatums
aren't a good approach.
In the meantime, I'd find an alternate source of text
for your choral work or write your own lyrics. Don't
write a note of music to their text until you have
permission in writing from them.
Good luck!
Ryan
===
I want to use the text on a greeting card for a choral
work. I have
contacted the greeting card company via email, but
have not heard anything.
Is it legal to send them a certified letter that says
something like, I
would like to use this text for a musical work and if
I don't hear from you
by January 1, 2005 I will assume that permission is
granted?
Jane Frasier
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Re: [Finale] Ties

2004-09-06 Thread Jane Frasier
Do you have a suggestion for what a good setting for that would be?
Jane
On Sep 6, 2004, at 1:28 PM, Klaas de Jong wrote:
And: forgot to mention this: options/doc. opt./music spacing/minimum
distance between tied notes...
cheers.
kdj
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Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2004 20:44:18 +0200
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Subject: Re: [Finale] Ties
Hello Jane,
I would make the measures a bit larger, apart from: document/tie 
options,
mass edit/change ties and/or special tools/tie tool.

From: Jane Frasier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2004 19:19:14 -0600
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Finale] Ties
Thanks for the ideas. The first suggestion about music spacing 
options
didn't make any difference.

I tried a few things with the tie options but didn't get any better
results. Here are links to a couple examples. If anyone has any 
ideas I
would appreciate it.

http://janefrasier.com/misc/example1.pdf and
http://janefrasier.com/misc/example2.pdf.
Thanks.
Jane
On Sep 3, 2004, at 10:46 PM, Mark D Lew wrote:
On Sep 3, 2004, at 7:26 PM, Jane Frasier wrote:
I am using Finale 2004 on Mac, OS 10.3.5.  It seems like ties in 
the
piece I am working on look awful. If I have chord of 3 notes tied,
the middle tie is way too narrow. Also if a chord with 4 notes, 
with
the interval of a second in the middle, the middle ties are
misplaced. Has any one else seen this? Is there a cure?
For the middle tie being too short, the setting you need to change 
is
under Music Spacing Options (Options  Document Settings  Music
Spacing Options*.  Change the value for Minimum Distance Between
Notes with Ties to something larger.  The tie is going to squeeze
itself into whatever space there is, but this value makes sure that
when the music is spaced it leaves enough room for a longer tie.

The rest of the settings you want are under Options  Document
Settings  Tie Options*. I've been using my own Tie Option settings
for so long that I don't even remember what values are set in the
default templates, but I vaguely recall being dissatisfied with 
them.

I'm not sure what you mean by the middle ties being misplaced.  If
you're unhappy with the choices of over vs under, try a different
selection under Tie Direction  Chords.  The three options are three
different algorithms for determining up or down for the ties in the
middle of the chord.  Perhaps the rule you consider correct is not 
the
same one you have selected.

Lots of other tie settings you twiddle with there.  Even when you 
get
the settings you like best, there will still be cases where you have
to adjust them manually to get it just right.

mdl
* I'm on Fin Mac 2k2s. The menu locations may be a little different 
in
whatever version you're on, but the same panels will be there
somewhere.

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Re: [Finale] Ties

2004-09-04 Thread Jane Frasier
Thanks for the ideas. The first suggestion about music spacing options 
didn't make any difference.

I tried a few things with the tie options but didn't get any better 
results. Here are links to a couple examples. If anyone has any ideas I 
would appreciate it.

http://janefrasier.com/misc/example1.pdf and 
http://janefrasier.com/misc/example2.pdf.

Thanks.
Jane
On Sep 3, 2004, at 10:46 PM, Mark D Lew wrote:
On Sep 3, 2004, at 7:26 PM, Jane Frasier wrote:
I am using Finale 2004 on Mac, OS 10.3.5.  It seems like ties in the 
piece I am working on look awful. If I have chord of 3 notes tied, 
the middle tie is way too narrow. Also if a chord with 4 notes, with 
the interval of a second in the middle, the middle ties are 
misplaced. Has any one else seen this? Is there a cure?
For the middle tie being too short, the setting you need to change is 
under Music Spacing Options (Options  Document Settings  Music 
Spacing Options*.  Change the value for Minimum Distance Between 
Notes with Ties to something larger.  The tie is going to squeeze 
itself into whatever space there is, but this value makes sure that 
when the music is spaced it leaves enough room for a longer tie.

The rest of the settings you want are under Options  Document 
Settings  Tie Options*. I've been using my own Tie Option settings 
for so long that I don't even remember what values are set in the 
default templates, but I vaguely recall being dissatisfied with them.

I'm not sure what you mean by the middle ties being misplaced.  If 
you're unhappy with the choices of over vs under, try a different 
selection under Tie Direction  Chords.  The three options are three 
different algorithms for determining up or down for the ties in the 
middle of the chord.  Perhaps the rule you consider correct is not the 
same one you have selected.

Lots of other tie settings you twiddle with there.  Even when you get 
the settings you like best, there will still be cases where you have 
to adjust them manually to get it just right.

mdl
* I'm on Fin Mac 2k2s. The menu locations may be a little different in 
whatever version you're on, but the same panels will be there 
somewhere.

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[Finale] a little TAN

2004-09-03 Thread Jane Frasier
I have a Logitechcordless optical mouse. It has gotten really 'sticky'. 
I have cleaned off the little white plastic parts that slide on the 
mouse pad. What else could be causing this? I wiped off the cat hair 
off the mousepad.

Jane
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Re: [Finale] Ties

2004-09-03 Thread Jane Frasier
I was adding them for the whole chord at once.
Jane
On Sep 3, 2004, at 8:50 PM, Keith Helgesen wrote:
Are you adding ties singly or 'en masse'? I had trouble when adding 
ties
singly, but adding by clicking on stem of chord seems to work OK.
If not this, then- sorry!
Cheers Keith in OZ

Keith Helgesen.
Director of Music, Canberra City Band.
Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0436-620587
Private Mob 0417-042171
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Subject: [Finale] Ties

I am using Finale 2004 on Mac, OS 10.3.5.  It seems like ties in the
piece I am working on look awful. If I have chord of 3 notes tied, the
middle tie is way too narrow. Also if a chord with 4 notes, with the
interval of a second in the middle, the middle ties are misplaced. Has
any one else seen this? Is there a cure?
Thanks.
Jane Frasier
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