Re: [Finale] Advice needed

[Ryszard Pusz]

Would they accept a Music XML file? they could then open it in Sib.

 Ryszard

> On 3 Sep 2019, at 3:01 PM, Raymond Horton  wrote:
> 
> So, I have a publisher interested in publishing a work of mine, but
> says they need the file in Sibelius format (groan!)
> 
> I have a friend who uses Sib, but he is extremely busy and I hate to
> impose upon him. it’s a fairly large file, 33 pages for brass band,23
> staves, 3000 frames. How much work is involved, approximately? It
> looks like I could purchase a lifetime license for the software for
> $200, would this be a good time for me to learn the program? (I am 66
> years old with a few health problems in my past Including a spine
> injury which makes sitting at the computer for long hours much more
> difficult than it used to be - I am not certain of my longevity
> prognosis, and I would rather spend my remaining years trying to
> create something new then learning new software. Financially, this is
> not a mass market work, so paying a professional to convert this would
> probably not make sense for me, although I haven’t been published much
> and I would like to get it out there even if I lose a little. In the
> meantime, I am trying to look for other publishers.
> 
> Any advice will be very much appreciated!
> 
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> Composer/Arranger
> Minister of Music,
> Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
> Retired Bass Trombonist,
> Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016
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Re: [Finale] [OT] voice part only

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Maybe if their bowtie is too tight it acts like a capo?? Then the transposed 
notes would match the sounds they make….


> On 6 May 2019, at 7:48 AM, SN jef chippewa  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> raymond, it is for voice (singular) and the part needs to be transposed down 
> a major second.  yeah i have cues for the entry and at the end of the longer 
> multi-measure rests.
> 
> cheers,
> jef
> 
>> I don¹t know what a transposed score for voices would be, unless they are 
>> talking about the Tenor part written an octave higher than sounding, but I 
>> will say that you do not need to Do a piano reduction for choir, really 
>> anytime in a larger ensemble. Just give them some cues To help them get 
>> their pitch, and you are good to go!
>> 
>> Raymond Horton
>> Composer/Arranger
>> Minister of Music,
>> Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
>> Retired Bass Trombonist,
>> Louisville Orchestra, 1970-2016
>> 
>>> On May 5, 2019, at 11:49 AM, SN jef chippewa 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> yeah they explicitly said they don't need the score, only a transposed part 
>>> (i don't know where the transposed score is or if there in fact is one), 
>>> and there is a fixed (small) budget that is just too small for me to do the 
>>> entire score even if i wanted to.
>>> 
>>> thanks!
>>> 
>>> 
 In my experience, the singer reads from score, with the proviso that the 
 vocal line is immediately above the piano line and that the other 
 instruments on are reduced-size staves above the vocal line. (See, for 
 example, the score of Pierrot Lunaire
 .)
 
>> >> The other option would be to provide a piano/vocal score with a piano 
>> >> reduction of all the instrumental parts. But that may be more trouble 
>> >> than you need for this particular project.
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Re: [Finale] Playback problem

[Ryszard Pusz]

Hmm. Not the Mixer?

Ryszard

> On 3 Mar 2019, at 7:35 PM, Haroldo Mauro  wrote:
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> Score Manager
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 3, 2019, at 3:12, Martin Nickless  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi there can someone help me 
>> My volume is not balanced when I use play back 
>> The bones are very loud and can hardly hear the trumpets 
>> Not sure where to find individual volume control
>> I’m on windows 10
>> Finale 25
>> Thanks
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Re: [Finale] What is the Finale strategy?

[Ryszard Pusz]

I have followed this thread with interest. I continue to use Finale because I 
am too lazy to learn any other, but I use it quite detachedly. As a 
percussionist I would like to be able to notate a much greater range of nuances 
than the program allows, and then to have the sounds played back.

I don't know why the untuned percussion sounds are locked into such a rigid 
system. Surely it would be possible to have each untuned instrument notated 
anywhere on the staff, say in a "two-octave" range and have those sounds tied 
to the neutral clef. Secondly, the strokes used to play them could also be more 
flexibly notated and played back

But probably NIML (not in my lifetime)…

Ryszard


On 21/04/2018, at 11:32 PM, David H. Bailey wrote:

> And ultimately it all boils down to each of us finding and using the 
> tools which allow us to get the desired result with the minimum of 
> effort for us so that most of our effort can be put into the creative 
> side of things.

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Re: [Finale] NUMBERING DRUM PARTS

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Hi

Yes to the first question. I guess it is possible to save them in the library. 
I haven't actually done that.

R


On 17/11/2017, at 10:17 PM, Martin Nickless wrote:

> Hi there thanks 
> Do you position them so that they are always in the Center of the bar 
> And is it possible to save them to a Library for future projects 
> Thanks
> M
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 17 Nov 2017, at 11:27, Ryszard Pusz  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Martin,
>> 
>> I create them in the Expression tool.
>> 
>> cheers
>> 
>> Ryszard
>> _
>> 
>>> On 17/11/2017, at 9:33 PM, martin nickless wrote:
>>> 
>>> HI can anyone suggest the quickest way to put reminder bar numbers on a big
>>> band drum part so say i have first bar slash notation then 31 bars the same
>>> how do I put bar numbers above the staff  at say four bar intervals4
>>> 8   12 etc
>>> please note tried the plug in  didnt work
>>> 
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Re: [Finale] NUMBERING DRUM PARTS

[Ryszard Pusz]

Hi Martin,

I create them in the Expression tool.

cheers

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On 17/11/2017, at 9:33 PM, martin nickless wrote:

> HI can anyone suggest the quickest way to put reminder bar numbers on a big
> band drum part so say i have first bar slash notation then 31 bars the same
> how do I put bar numbers above the staff  at say four bar intervals4
> 8   12 etc
> please note tried the plug in  didnt work
> 
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Re: [Finale] Measure # Question

[Ryszard Pusz]

Hi Neal,

Not sure of this question was answered but in the Measure tool, look up Measure 
in the menu. That should give you the options for score and parts measure 
numbers under “Edit Measure Number Regions”.

cheers

Ryszard

> On 7 Nov 2017, at 12:48 pm, Neal Gittleman  wrote:
> 
> Greetings…
> 
> So I’ve been using Finale since version 2.0 and I’m finally getting to asking 
> this question regarding measure numbers in scores…
> 
> When I set up a project in Wizard I end up with a score that has bar numbers 
> at the top staff of each group.  So, for instance, in the arrangement I’m 
> working on right now, on each page of the score (except p. 1, of course), I 
> get bar numbers at the start of the following staves...
>   Flute
>   Horn
>   Timpani
>   Percussion
>   Harp
>   Voices
>   Piano
>   Strings
> …which looks cluttered to me.  Ideally, I’d like the score to have bar 
> numbers maybe on the top staff and the 1st Violins or maybe top staff and 
> bottom staff only.  But of course, I want bar numbers on all parts.  
> 
> If I simply delete the bar numbers from the staves (in the score) where I 
> don’t want them will that affect the parts, or just the score?
> 
> Silly question, perhaps, but I’ve always wondered, and by the time I’m 
> creating and tweaking the parts, the last thing I want to do is start 
> screwing up the bar numbers, so I always end up leaving the score in its 
> “cluttered” state…
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: [Finale] Create multi-staff instrument

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Dennis would a marimba solve the problem, as that comes on a double staff?

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> On Fri, October 13, 2017 1:21 pm, Christopher Smith wrote:
>> Can’t you just add a piano, then rename it to “cimbalom”? That seems way
>> easier than digging into the configuration documents.
> 
> You're right, of course, but then I have to un-name the piano from piano 1,
> etc. Since this will come up again (I have a few commissions for these folks),
> I'd like for it to be in my template.
> 
> Dennis
> 
> 
>>> On Fri Oct 13, at FridayOct 13 1:11 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Finale 25 Windows 10
>>> 
>>> This has got to be simple, but I've never done multiple staves except by
>>> using
>>> groups or calling on Finale's built-in multi-staff instruments (piano, harp,
>>> etc.).
>>> 
>>> I want to add a cimbalom as a multi-staff instrument rather than as a group.
>>> 
>>> I can find nothing about how to do create a multi-staff instrument, nor a
>>> configuration file with this information ... must be just overlooking
>>> something obvious.
>>> 
>>> Help?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dennis
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Re: [Finale] FinMac 2.6.3 files convert to FinMac 2015 (25)

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Hi Claudio,

Don't know if this would work. On a Mac when I want to open early word docs I 
open Word and then open the particular doc. Maybe this process could also work 
with finale. But it is only 1 doc at a time.

Ryszard

On 13/09/2017, at 5:04 PM, Claudio Pompili wrote:

> Hi
> 
> can anybody suggest an ‘easy’ way to resurrect FinMac 2.6.3 files to open in 
> a more recent FinMac version eg 2011, 2014, or 2015 (on a Intel Mac OS X El 
> Capitan 10.11.6)?
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Finale] Staff question

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Hi Patsy,

If I'm understanding your post correctly, it seems to me that the easiest 
option is to copy a bar (or few) into a word document, which can be done as 
often as you want.

On a mac I would open finale and create a system of however many lines, bars 
and clefs I wanted within the margins I want. 

Then open Preview, click command-3 drag the cross-hair to capture those bars 
and copy-paste them into the word document of the questionnaire. 

If you are using windows I guess there is a similar way of doing this too.

cheers,

Ryszard
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> Hello fellow Finale users,
> 
> I'm using (i.e. still struggling intermittently with) Finale 2014.
> 
> I've just been preparing a revised Questionnaire in Finale for new members 
> of my adult learners' orchestra.
> 
> After 2 pages of assorted text I want to insert a short length of staff 
> with a clef, or possibly of them in different places, for people to fill in 
> their possible playing ranges, but so far have failed to do so.
> 
> I've clicked "new blank staves" in the Staff tool.
> 
> A little window opens saying:
> Number of Staves 1 (can be changed, but I've left it as 1)
> Topline to Topline Distance 1 (haven't worked out what that means but have 
> tried it as1 and as 0)
> OK / Cancel / Help
> 
> If I click OK, nothing happens.
> 
> Helpful hints would be very welcome. :)
> 
> Just off to bed in England
> 
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Re: [Finale] OFF-TOPIC twirling pipes / magic tube

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No name on mine - obviously the cheaper variety that no respectable business 
wants to own up to!

I have to admit that I never actually learned a name for them I just bought a 
few from a local toy shop about 20 years ago.

On 15/08/2017, at 6:04 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote:

> 
> thanks, some fun links by those science guys!
> 
> yeah the limit to 5 pitches (2nd-6th partial) 
> seems to be the max speed a human can spin the 
> thing, and the fundamental is always inaudible.
> 
> about the name, what the industry and the users 
> call them could be different.  is there actually 
> a name on yours?  the sticker on mine says "magic 
> sound tube" (german import)
> 
> 
>> Hmm. Never actually thought to work out the 
>> pitches. They have 5 different tones depending 
>> on how fast they are twirled. And they can be 
>> blown as well.
>> 
>> Check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuGnsW0ysrA for a demo.
>> 
>> And names? Like many percussion instruments they 
>> have more than one name - sound hose, twirly, 
>> musical sound tubeŠ..
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Re: [Finale] twirling pipes / magic tube (was: ghost sounds)

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Hmm. Never actually thought to work out the pitches. They have 5 different 
tones depending on how fast they are twirled. And they can be blown as well. 

Check out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuGnsW0ysrA for a demo.

And names? Like many percussion instruments they have more than one name - 
sound hose, twirly, musical sound tube…..

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On 15/08/2017, at 8:50 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote:

> 
> well, since richard brought it up, anyone able to verify the pitch of 
> theirs for me?  these seem to come in 28" models, would be interested 
> to know the variation in pitch.  mine (after a 3.75" piece broke off 
> the end) registered the 2nd partial around G4-3/4# (428 Hz)
> http://www.szynalski.com/tone-generator
> 
> also, can you get anything more/less than the 2nd-6th partials?
> 
> i am using one in a new piece, and other things played by musicians 
> depend on the pitch (variation) of these things.
> 
> what are the names used for these things?
> 
> 
>> And of course don't forget  that delightful kid's toy - the twirling pipes...
>> Ryszard
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Re: [Finale] Percussion ghost sounds?

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Rolled cymbal on timpani can work, especially if the timp is glissed.

What about bending notes on marimba or xylophone? The sounds can only be short 
but can be quite ghostly.

Brushed or shaken finger cymbal tree?

And of course don't forget  that delightful kid's toy - the twirling pipes and 
also the thunder drum,  & sandpaper blocks rubbed together.

Ryszard

On 15/08/2017, at 6:16 AM, Raymond Horton wrote:

> I would like to make some "ghost sounds" from the percussion section in a
> piece I am writing. I know about the single cymbal rolled on a timpani
> head, which might work, but does anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks!
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Re: [Finale] 1/4 tone keyboard notation

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Perhaps my question was misleading. While it is possible to get a tuner to tune 
a vibraphone up or down a quarter tone, Jef's statement (it comes that way) 
implied to me that the instrument was bought at that tuning and I was wondering 
if this was in fact the case.

Ryszard

On 15/07/2017, at 12:15 PM, Dave Lang wrote:

> I might just not understand what the issue is here, but I don't understand 
> what the issue is here.
> 
 No suggestions, sorry, but how do you get a vibraphone tuned down a 
 quarter tone?
>>> 
>>> haha yeah maybe that wasn't clear, it comes that way, so actually 
>>> tuned 1/4 lower than standard vibes
>>> 
>>> however, if you prefer it to be tuned higher, all you need is a file 
>>> and a lot of elbow grease ;-)
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Re: [Finale] 1/4 tone keyboard notation

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Hi Jef,

No suggestion for you, but I am curious. Who makes vibes 1/4 tone lower? Or was 
this a special tuning just for that one instrument?

Ryszard
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On 15/07/2017, at 2:35 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote:

> 
>> No suggestions, sorry, but how do you get a vibraphone tuned down a 
>> quarter tone?
> 
> haha yeah maybe that wasn't clear, it comes that way, so actually 
> tuned 1/4 lower than standard vibes
> 
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> and a lot of elbow grease ;-)
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Re: [Finale] Grey rectangles appear

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…and maybe for TRILLS too ...

On 18/01/2017, at 4:15 AM, S Jones wrote:

> Those are hidden playback notes for the trolls you added.

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Re: [Finale] incorporating percussion noteheads

[Ryszard Pusz]

I also don't use the playback as it simply doesn't play most of what I write. I 
also usually star with normal noteheads. I will check the use of different 
fonts, and look forward to checking out yours.

I didn't want to use 2 staffs (hiding the empty ones wouldn't work). Hence my 
dilemma, for 10 measures. 

Ryszard

On 12/01/2017, at 11:44 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote:

> 
> my experience has been that starting from normal noteheads and 
> changing individual noteheads as needed is the easiest way to go. 
> that said, i NEVER use finale's percussion maps and don't use 
> playback for percussion ever.
> 
> then it is a question of the font you are using for the percussion 
> and you may have to set the font for the perc to engraver extras or 
> something.  and that is one of the many reasons i created my own 
> fonts, starting way back in 2002 :-)
> http://newmusicnotation.com/fonts/neueweise_charactercharts.pdf
> 
> i still think you can (and should) use normal noteheads.  if the 
> staves for perc are organized well there is no need.  the performer 
> then sees a consistent staff "complex" and knows where every single 
> instrument / group of instruments is located.  for example, i have 
> often used the 5-line as a basis (for pitched instruments and 
> sometimes for 5 WB, for ex.) supplemented with a 3-line staff for 
> other instruments.  with some planning it has usually been possible 
> to reduce the number of staves and increase the clarity of what i 
> have come across in perc parts.  as a percussionist, you know how 
> much of a pain in the arse it can be... :-)
> 
> here is an example for 3 tgl, 4 tbl and vibes with no conflicts. 
> uppers use 3-line staves differently, so even if you combined tbl/tgl 
> for a short complex passage there is a clear distinction between the 
> instruments.
> 
> 
> ---o---
> 
> ---o---
> 
> ---o---
> 
> 
>   o
> --
>   o
> --
>   o
> --
>   o
> 
> 
> --F#--
> 
> -
>C
> -
> 
> --Gb--
> 
> -
> 
> 
>> But if I if I understood you correctly, that gives me the opposite 
>> of what I want.
>> 
>> By turning off the percussion settings in Score Manager that just 
>> gives the range of usual noteheads & no circle with an "x" within it.
>> 
>> As a percussionist I have long held that there is no need for 
>> alternate noteheads. However, this is a percussion quartet with 
>> continual changes between a variety of tuned and untuned 
>> instruments. So to make it clear to the players I am using different 
>> noteheads (squares for templeblocks, triangles for triangles etc).
>> 
>> I don't know why Finale can't just have all noteheads shown in the 
>> special tools.
>> 
>> I also don't know why the notations of percussion instruments are 
>> scored so inflexibly.
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Re: [Finale] incorporating percussion noteheads

[Ryszard Pusz]

Thanks Jef

But if I if I understood you correctly, that gives me the opposite of what I 
want. 

By turning off the percussion settings in Score Manager that just gives the 
range of usual noteheads & no circle with an "x" within it.

As a percussionist I have long held that there is no need for alternate 
noteheads. However, this is a percussion quartet with continual changes between 
a variety of tuned and untuned instruments. So to make it clear to the players 
I am using different noteheads (squares for templeblocks, triangles for 
triangles etc).

I don't know why Finale can't just have all noteheads shown in the special 
tools.
 
I also don't know why the notations of percussion instruments are scored so 
inflexibly.



On 12/01/2017, at 9:31 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote:

> 
> uncheck "use percussion noteheads" in the staff setup (cmd-K to call 
> up the dialogue)
> 
> there is *very* often no real need for "alternate" noteheads, when 
> the instruments are being played in "normal" ways.  for example, 
> cymbals played normally (sticks, mallets, triangle beaters, 
> brushes...) do NOT need X-noteheads.  exceptions exist, of course, 
> e.g., highly standardized situations like drumset notation.  but in 
> particular, if the cymbals are on a dedicated staff (1-line or 
> multi-cymbals/metals) the noteheads used should be "normal".
> 
>> I am running Finale 214 on MacOS 10.7.5. Is there any way I can get 
>> percussion noteheads onto "normal" notes?
>> 
>> I am writing a percussion part that moves between tuned and untuned 
>> instruments and want to use, for example, a whole note with an 'x' 
>> in it.
>> 
>> It seems the Special Tools are specific to either percussion or 
>> non-percussion and I can't copy from one document to another using 
>> Mass Mover.
>> 
>> Hopefully the issue is surmountable as it would help me enormously.
> 
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[Finale] incorporating percussion noteheads

[Ryszard Pusz]

I am running Finale 214 on MacOS 10.7.5. Is there any way I can get percussion 
noteheads onto "normal" notes? 

I am writing a percussion part that moves between tuned and untuned instruments 
and want to use, for example, a whole note with an 'x' in it. 

It seems the Special Tools are specific to either percussion or non-percussion 
and I can't copy from one document to another using Mass Mover.

Hopefully the issue is surmountable as it would help me enormously.

Thanks.

Ryszard

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Re: [Finale] percussion map question

[Ryszard Pusz]

Hi Sheree,

As an addendum, is it worth trying the following?

Use 1 stave for the sounds of the percussion instruments and another for their 
position within the staff where you want them to appear? Then you could delete 
& reposition the score. Just a thought.

Ryszard
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Re: [Finale] percussion map question

[Ryszard Pusz]

Hi Sheree,

As a percussionist I am constantly frustrated by the inability to hear the 
percussion sounds in the places where I want them to appear in the score. I 
believe it should be possible to set up a range of percussion registers across 
all percussion instruments, as it is to set up a range of pitches. So 4 snare 
drums should have 4 different sounds when played on the head in the normal 
playing position, 4 more when played at the edge another 4 when played in the 
middle a further range when using soft mallets, fingers, playing on the rim…

The company that achieves this will get my vote.
 
Hope you can get an answer to your problem.

Ryszard
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On 08/01/2017, at 2:03 PM, Sheree Clement wrote:

> Hello esteemed experts:
> I've read the list for years, and now am finally writing with a query for
> the first time.
> 
> My score is for orchestra, and the percussionist part includes a bass drum,
> vibes, crotales on their own staves, and a staff for all the small stuff:
> triangle, cymbal, bell tree, snare drum, brake drum, gong, rack-mounted
> castenets, a ratchet, and sleigh bells. For the purposes of composing I
> linked 3 different garritan audio libraries to the staff, each in its own
> layer.  These place the noteheads in a location dictated by the audio
> sample / keyboard file - alot of the instruments are clustered up above the
> staff - hard for a human to read, but plays back nicely.  Now I must
> reconfigure this for a human to play, which means assigning each instrument
> to a consistent line or space on the 5 line staff.
> 
> How do I do this in finale?
> 
> Ive created a custom percussion map, with all 9 instruments in it.  They
> appear to be attached to different audio files than the ones I had started
> out with (which makes me worry).
> Then I started using utility/ transpose percussion to get the notes in the
> score to 'use' the perc map.  Triangle, which is in the map and in the
> garritan library assigned to that layer, transposed with one try and I can
> even hear it on playback (a plus, but not necessary).
> Next note was a cymbal, not in that garritan library in that layer.  It
> transposes to the right note # but then doesn't playback, maybe because its
> not in the library assigned to that layer?  It IS in a library assigned to
> layer 2.  So I moved it to layer 2 and .no playback.
> Is this percussion layout process as described in the manuals and online
> help valid for layer 1 ONLY?
> 
> Any suggestions on a process for setting percussion up properly without
> alot of trial and error?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> -- 
> Sheree Clement
> Finale 14.5.7098
> Mac OS X 10.9.5
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Re: [Finale] Re(2): Finale 2014.5 Update Missing

[Ryszard Pusz]

Caveat emptor - morals and business just don't mix.

Ryszard

On 05/01/2017, at 10:06 PM, David H. Bailey wrote:

> On 1/5/2017 6:24 AM, Giovanni Andreani wrote:
>> Thank you David,
>> 
>> Just turned the "check update" function off
>> 
> 
> I'm happy to help.
> 
> I think it's a horrible thing for software companies to do that -- tell 
> us there's an upgrade to our current version available when actually 
> they want us to buy a completely new version.  I've got another piece of 
> software which keeps telling me the same thing, only it says "Important 
> update for your current version."  No, it's not an update of the current 
> version, it's a brand new version which will cost me money to get.  Sleazy!
> 
> It's telling that "the new version is 2014.5 2500.0.0.7722" -- that 
> tells me that even the folks at rocky-mountain-high-exercise-company (or 
> whatever the name of the current owner of Finale is) consider this new 
> version to be simply an extension of 2014.5 and not the totally new 
> version they advertised it as.
> 
> Why can't software companies be more honest with their users?
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Re: [Finale] 3/2 vs. 6/4

[Ryszard Pusz]

An interesting point, which shows more than anything else how imprecise music 
notation is in conveying a composer's intentions.

Accents could be interpreted with too strong an emphasis on the 1, 3 and 5, 
phrase marks could lead to a greater than wanted disconnect between 2-3, 4-5, 
6-1. Using 2/4 could overcome these difficulties, maybe.

Or we accept that any language opens itself to a very broad band of 
understanding and interpretation.


On 08/12/2016, at 9:30 PM, David H. Bailey wrote:

> how would a composer indicate in a 
> printed score, without using accent marks which would likely produce 
> more emphasis than desired, that with a 6/4 meter the emphasis should be 
> 1, 3, 5 so that a performer far removed from this discussion or removed 
> even from this time (for example finding the score 50 years from now and 
> choosing to perform it) would understand how the music should sound?

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[Finale] staff names

[Ryszard Pusz]

Hi,

I am running Finale 2014 on Mac 10.7.5. How can I change the staff names from 
the default? I often combine a few different percussion instruments in a single 
stave and usually in positions that are different from their position in 
Finale. As a result I need a new name, even if it is only a number.

cheers,

Ryszard
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