Re: [Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open
On Sep 23, 2007, at 3:06 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Have you tried trashing Finale pref as I suggested? Sorry, didn't report back on that. Yes, I had tried deleting preferences with no change in crash on quit. In you crash log, this appears in line 2: 2 ...u.driver.PCIAudio.HALPlugIn 0x0799df8c PlugInDevice::GetProperty (unsigned long, bool, unsigned long, unsigned long*, void*) + 384 In my guess, what this is telling you is Finale is calling PCI424 driver then receives something Finale doesn't understand and crashes. I like that analysis, but don't know what to do about it. I'll send to MM tech Monday AM. You should also try assign Built-in under AMS to see if Finale still crashes. Actually, this is something that the MM tech had me try and no change. Sorry I didn't include that in one of the original posts. On the AD option in Audio/Midi Setup. I'm surprised that it is 24bit with no 16bit choice. Thanks for your time on this, Hiro. I'll report back when something significant happens. Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open
Have you tried uninstalling the Audio Drivers, then reinstalling them? I have an M-Audio card that does something similar...and uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers works most of the time. Dick Hauser wrote: On Sep 23, 2007, at 3:06 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Have you tried trashing Finale pref as I suggested? Sorry, didn't report back on that. Yes, I had tried deleting preferences with no change in crash on quit. In you crash log, this appears in line 2: 2 ...u.driver.PCIAudio.HALPlugIn 0x0799df8c PlugInDevice::GetProperty (unsigned long, bool, unsigned long, unsigned long*, void*) + 384 In my guess, what this is telling you is Finale is calling PCI424 driver then receives something Finale doesn't understand and crashes. I like that analysis, but don't know what to do about it. I'll send to MM tech Monday AM. You should also try assign Built-in under AMS to see if Finale still crashes. Actually, this is something that the MM tech had me try and no change. Sorry I didn't include that in one of the original posts. On the AD option in Audio/Midi Setup. I'm surprised that it is 24bit with no 16bit choice. Thanks for your time on this, Hiro. I'll report back when something significant happens. Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open
Dick Hauser / 07.9.23 / 2:46 AM wrote: Actually, this is something that the MM tech had me try and no change. Sorry I didn't include that in one of the original posts. OK, but as I said, if you chose Built-in in AMS, the Finale crash log _must_ look different, because Finale no longer tries to load PCI424. Please try again and send me the crash log. Send me as text instead of MS rtf. It is pretty difficult to read since MS throws so much garbage. If it still crashes at PCI then Finale still remembers false AMS API and it is stuck in corrupted pref. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open
Eric Dannewitz / 07.9.23 / 3:58 AM wrote: Have you tried uninstalling the Audio Drivers, then reinstalling them? I have an M-Audio card that does something similar...and uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers works most of the time. When it happens, does the crash stop when you switch AMS to Built-in? You remember Fin2k8 isn't properly handling mono stream? I think Fin2k8 introduced CA bugs. Dick Hauser / 07.9.23 / 1:44 PM wrote: but since the crash seems to happen when Finale is initializing midi Y'know, I am still not buying this. Dick, open Applications/Utilities/Console.app Make sure console.log is displayed and start up Finale. This is more accurate to see when it crashed. Report back what you saw. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open
On Sep 24, 2007, at 12:58 AM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Have you tried uninstalling the Audio Drivers, then reinstalling them? I have an M-Audio card that does something similar...and uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers works most of the time. Thanks, Eric. While I haven't unstalled the drivers, I have deleted and installed again from fresh downloads. It can't hurt, though, so I'll look around tonight for an uninstaller. Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open
On Sep 24, 2007, at 2:30 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: You have a MOTU interface(s) right? I believe they have an installer that will remove the drivers. If not, contact their support. They have great email support...unlike some other program we all know. Thanks, I'll contact them. Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open
On Sep 24, 2007, at 12:53 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Dick Hauser / 07.9.24 / 3:32 PM wrote: While I haven't unstalled the drivers, I have deleted and installed again from fresh downloads. How did you delete it? The driver is here: /System/Library/Extensions/ And you can't delete them unless you do sudo rm from CLI. Ah! I see. No I just deleted the Apps (Clockworks, MOTU PCI Audio Setup, Cuemix) I'm not comfortable with running command from the terminal window (although I do run sudo periodic a few times a month). So I'm going to wait a bit on this Hiro. I'll run the DiskUtility from the installer disk as you suggested. Thanks again, Dick ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open
If any mac owners have the time to test. In working on my problem of F2k8 crash on open, I've noticed that the Audio Midi Setup pane of OS is set to 2-ch 24-bit. The MM tech mentioned that Finale only wants 16 bit, but since the crash seems to happen when Finale is initializing midi (not Core midi, after that) he decided not to pursue it. Just for laughs, I decided to try booting with the Audio Midi Setup set at 16-bit. However, the format pull down for Audio/Midi Setup has no option but 24-bit. The only place in my system that I've found so far that can change bit depth, is in Digital Performer which has a preference pane which allows one to specify the bit depth of newly recorded material. Changing that back and forth seemed to have no effect on the Audio/ Midi Setup configuration. So I'm curious, does any one have options in that Audio/Midi Setup pull down? Dick H 1224 2408 MkII MTPAV Morpheus DMPro G5 Dual 2 Ghz 4 Gig OSX 10.4.10 PCI 424 DP 5.12 PCI Audio Midi Set up v 1.31 Clockworks v 1.51 Cuemix Console v 1.42 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Mac F2008 Crash on Open
Dick Hauser / 07.9.23 / 1:44 PM wrote: In working on my problem of F2k8 crash on open, I've noticed that the Audio Midi Setup pane of OS is set to 2-ch 24-bit. The MM tech mentioned that Finale only wants 16 bit, but since the crash seems to happen when Finale is initializing midi (not Core midi, after that) he decided not to pursue it. Just for laughs, I decided to try booting with the Audio Midi Setup set at 16-bit. However, the format pull down for Audio/Midi Setup has no option but 24-bit. Unfortunately the tech person you talked doesn't know much. The A/D format isn't something you can chose. It's not like sample rate. The bit depth is only a file format. Your 2048 A/D is 20-bit (24-bit if mark-ii). That is a spec of the converter. When you track with DP, you have a choice to write the file in 24-bit or 16-bit. Finale only wants 16-bit doesn't make sense. Have you tried trashing Finale pref as I suggested? In you crash log, this appears in line 2: 2 ...u.driver.PCIAudio.HALPlugIn 0x0799df8c PlugInDevice::GetProperty (unsigned long, bool, unsigned long, unsigned long*, void*) + 384 In my guess, what this is telling you is Finale is calling PCI424 driver then receives something Finale doesn't understand and crashes. You should also try assign Built-in under AMS to see if Finale still crashes. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale