Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks
i would need to pull out my most recent project (which i am not keen to do for a little while :-)) but i did notice, without ever understanding why or how, that time sigs (as text expressios) assigned to specific staves showed on the next adjacent staff when a dedicated timesig staff was hidden. without ever needing to define or use another staff list or hide the expressions selectively. i would assume the same behaviour would be experienced in your case, since you are using rehearsal markings as i did time sigs. my rehearsal marks were only shown on the top staff of the score. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks
Yes, I noticed this new behavior of items attached to hidden staves in a score list appearing in the next lower staff. That usually works well for my case of one rehearsal mark on the top staff and another on a staff further down the page. However, when all the staves above the 2nd rehearsal mark staff are hidden, I'm left with only one rehearsal mark. I've taken Robert's suggestion and defined the score list to include a third staff, and most of the time I hide the rehearsal marks assigned to it. -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of SN jef chippewa Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:41 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks i would need to pull out my most recent project (which i am not keen to do for a little while :-)) but i did notice, without ever understanding why or how, that time sigs (as text expressios) assigned to specific staves showed on the next adjacent staff when a dedicated timesig staff was hidden. without ever needing to define or use another staff list or hide the expressions selectively. i would assume the same behaviour would be experienced in your case, since you are using rehearsal markings as i did time sigs. my rehearsal marks were only shown on the top staff of the score. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks
I believe that when they changed the way staff lists work in Fin09, they changed it so that if one of the staff assignments is the top staff of a group, the exp appears on the top of the group even when the top staff is hidden. Like all smart features, this is a great feature...until it isn't. On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 5:20 AM, Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net wrote: Yes, I noticed this new behavior of items attached to hidden staves in a score list appearing in the next lower staff. That usually works well for my case of one rehearsal mark on the top staff and another on a staff further down the page. However, when all the staves above the 2nd rehearsal mark staff are hidden, I'm left with only one rehearsal mark. I've taken Robert's suggestion and defined the score list to include a third staff, and most of the time I hide the rehearsal marks assigned to it. -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of SN jef chippewa Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 2:41 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks i would need to pull out my most recent project (which i am not keen to do for a little while :-)) but i did notice, without ever understanding why or how, that time sigs (as text expressios) assigned to specific staves showed on the next adjacent staff when a dedicated timesig staff was hidden. without ever needing to define or use another staff list or hide the expressions selectively. i would assume the same behaviour would be experienced in your case, since you are using rehearsal markings as i did time sigs. my rehearsal marks were only shown on the top staff of the score. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks
i never noticed it in 2010, only in 2012. anyways, worked perfectly for my needs (so far). I believe that when they changed the way staff lists work in Fin09, they changed it so that if one of the staff assignments is the top staff of a group, the exp appears on the top of the group even when the top staff is hidden. Like all smart features, this is a great feature...until it isn't. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Rehearsal marks
In Finale 2012, has anyone found a straightforward way to change the staff list assignment for a single instance of an auto-sequenced rehearsal mark? I don't see a way to do this without a kludgy workaround (like defining a new single-purpose expression for the score and hiding it in the parts). -Lee Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks
Without knowing exactly what you are trying to do, it is difficult to advise. If necessary, you can create the single purpose expression, but why would you need to hide it in the parts? You can simply have the auto-sequencing skip that mark. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net wrote: In Finale 2012, has anyone found a straightforward way to change the staff list assignment for a single instance of an auto-sequenced rehearsal mark? I don't see a way to do this without a kludgy workaround (like defining a new single-purpose expression for the score and hiding it in the parts). -Lee Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks
Sorry I wasn't more explicit. I want rehearsal marks to appear at the top of the score and on the soloist staff (this is a concerto with orchestra accompaniment). On pages where all the staves above the soloist are hidden, I want a rehearsal mark on the next staff below the soloist as well. I see what you're saying about skipping the auto-sequencing completely at that point, and inserting a different expression. Is there a way to do it while retaining the auto-sequence functionality? -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Patterson Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 5:26 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks Without knowing exactly what you are trying to do, it is difficult to advise. If necessary, you can create the single purpose expression, but why would you need to hide it in the parts? You can simply have the auto-sequencing skip that mark. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net wrote: In Finale 2012, has anyone found a straightforward way to change the staff list assignment for a single instance of an auto-sequenced rehearsal mark? I don't see a way to do this without a kludgy workaround (like defining a new single-purpose expression for the score and hiding it in the parts). -Lee Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks
Depending how many exceptions there are, you could hide the occurrences on the staves you don't want. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net wrote: Sorry I wasn't more explicit. I want rehearsal marks to appear at the top of the score and on the soloist staff (this is a concerto with orchestra accompaniment). On pages where all the staves above the soloist are hidden, I want a rehearsal mark on the next staff below the soloist as well. I see what you're saying about skipping the auto-sequencing completely at that point, and inserting a different expression. Is there a way to do it while retaining the auto-sequence functionality? -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Patterson Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 5:26 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks Without knowing exactly what you are trying to do, it is difficult to advise. If necessary, you can create the single purpose expression, but why would you need to hide it in the parts? You can simply have the auto-sequencing skip that mark. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net wrote: In Finale 2012, has anyone found a straightforward way to change the staff list assignment for a single instance of an auto-sequenced rehearsal mark? I don't see a way to do this without a kludgy workaround (like defining a new single-purpose expression for the score and hiding it in the parts). -Lee Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks
Good suggestion, thanks. The exceptions are infrequent, so most cases will involve hiding the extra rehearsal mark, but it is the least fussy solution that still uses auto-sequencing, with no extra expressions needed. -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Patterson Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 11:03 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks Depending how many exceptions there are, you could hide the occurrences on the staves you don't want. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net wrote: Sorry I wasn't more explicit. I want rehearsal marks to appear at the top of the score and on the soloist staff (this is a concerto with orchestra accompaniment). On pages where all the staves above the soloist are hidden, I want a rehearsal mark on the next staff below the soloist as well. I see what you're saying about skipping the auto-sequencing completely at that point, and inserting a different expression. Is there a way to do it while retaining the auto-sequence functionality? -Lee -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Robert Patterson Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 5:26 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks Without knowing exactly what you are trying to do, it is difficult to advise. If necessary, you can create the single purpose expression, but why would you need to hide it in the parts? You can simply have the auto-sequencing skip that mark. On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Lee Actor lee.ac...@comcast.net wrote: In Finale 2012, has anyone found a straightforward way to change the staff list assignment for a single instance of an auto-sequenced rehearsal mark? I don't see a way to do this without a kludgy workaround (like defining a new single-purpose expression for the score and hiding it in the parts). -Lee Lee Actor Composer-in-Residence and Assistant Conductor, Palo Alto Philharmonic http://www.leeactor.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks
Godofredo's suggestion will not change as the measure it is assigned to changes its number within the score if measures are deleted or added before it? I just tried that and whatever you type into Jamin, use the Measure tool, set the measure number region so that the numbers will automatically show every 600 measures or so (anything higher than the actual length of the score). Then while the measure tool is active, simply ctrl-click above whichever measure you want the number to appear and it will stay there, and change to reflect any changes in the music you make by deleting or adding measures. If you want them to appear more as rehearsal marks usually appear (e.g. bold, larger font size, enclosed in a rectangle or circle) set those up when you define that measure number region. You can use this one as a secondary region in addition to a region where the measure number is printed above the first measure of each system. BUT, just as with all measure number regions, if you have 1st/2nd endings which you don't want counted separately, or have monkeyed around with measures so you end up with what appear to be mid-measure repeats or double bars, you may need to define several such measure regions for rehearsal marks depending on how accurate you want them to appear. I am quickly becoming of the opinion that it really doesn't matter whether we count them accurately, only taking into account full measures and not counting 1st/2nd endings as separate measure numbers, or if we simply let Finale count straight through from beginning to end, as long as the score and all the parts match exactly. David H. Bailey Godofredo Romero wrote: expression tool doble click on or above the measure at which the letter or number is to appearclick createtipe the letter or numberclick OK Jamin Hoffman wrote: Some years ago, I remember someone on this list telling us how to create move-able rehearsal marks - i.e., rehearsal marks that would reflect the measure number of whatever measure they were attached to - useful when adding or subtracting measures in the middle of a piece. I would like to do this - can whoever said how to do it last time (or someone else who knows now) outline how to do it (again)? Thanks - Jamin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Rehearsal marks
expression tool doble click on or above the measure at which the letter or number is to appearclick createtipe the letter or numberclick OK Jamin Hoffman wrote: Some years ago, I remember someone on this list telling us how to create move-able rehearsal marks - i.e., rehearsal marks that would reflect the measure number of whatever measure they were attached to - useful when adding or subtracting measures in the middle of a piece. I would like to do this - can whoever said how to do it last time (or someone else who knows now) outline how to do it (again)? Thanks - Jamin ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
