Re: [Finale] Trouble with 2012b Mac installer?

2012-06-27 Thread Doug Walter
Successful resolution:

Just to warn anyone else who might be succumbing to old habits, I had done 
something that turns out to be unnecessary for versions since 2010 - I had 
created a Finale 2012 folder inside my Applications folder and put the Finale 
2012 app inside it along with the Finale 2012 Preferences file. I've been doing 
that for years, because that used to be the only way to keep multiple versions 
of Finale on your hard disk and still keep them from trying to use each other's 
Preferences files.

I'm told that's no longer necessary, and in fact by creating a new Finale 2012 
folder in my Applications folder, the 2012b updater didn't find the original 
app and instead created a new (non-functioning) one outside my Finale 2012 
folder, leaving the original one alone. Once I dragged the 2012 app out of its 
own folder and reran the installer, it found it and successfully updated it.

I'm especially interested in using the new version to see if it will in fact 
generate new FAN files for the Bill Duncan chord symbol fonts so I don't have 
to search for the proper version of the FAN file if I'm using a document that 
can't find it for some reason. What keeps happening is that ties, etc. don't 
position correctly in Rhythmic Notation if you don't have the correct FAN file 
installed, so I'm hopeful this will smooth things out in that department.

Doug


On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Phillips, Justin wrote:

 We haven't seen this before and this is pretty odd. Do you know if Finale was 
 running when you tried to update?
 
 Also, I would highly encourage you to contact our support team about this so 
 we can learn a bit more. 
 
 ---
 Justin Phillips
 Portfolio Manager-Notation Products
 MakeMusic, Inc. 
 763-772-3964
 
 
 On Jun 26, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Doug Walter dew...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Anybody else having any trouble updating FinMac 2012 to 2012b? I downloaded 
 the updater and ran it , seemingly without problems, but instead of updating 
 the Finale 2012.app, it created a separate Finale 2012.app in my 
 Applications  folder, but outside the Finale 2012 folder which contains 
 only the original app and the Finale 2012 Preferences file.
 
 Once it did that, all my Finale files on my disk now have generic file 
 icons. If I try to open a Finale file by double-clicking it, or if I try to 
 open 2012b by double-clicking the application icon, I get the message 
 Unhandled exception caught on a generic-looking document icon with a 
 pencil, a ruler and a brush(?) on it. If I OK out of that dialog, I get the 
 Finale quit unexpectedly dialog.
 
 8-core Mac Pro, recently installed Lion 10.7.4.
 
 I even reinstalled the original 2012 app and redownloaded the updater, but 
 same result. Also tried rebooting the computer.
 
 Any enlightenment welcome.
 
 Thanks,
 Doug
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Re: [Finale] Trouble with 2012b Mac installer?

2012-06-27 Thread Doug Walter
P.S. Meant to give Curtis at Finale tech support credit for helping sort this 
out. Thanks!

Doug


On Jun 27, 2012, at 9:09 AM, Doug Walter wrote:

 Successful resolution:
 
 Just to warn anyone else who might be succumbing to old habits, I had done 
 something that turns out to be unnecessary for versions since 2010 - I had 
 created a Finale 2012 folder inside my Applications folder and put the Finale 
 2012 app inside it along with the Finale 2012 Preferences file. I've been 
 doing that for years, because that used to be the only way to keep multiple 
 versions of Finale on your hard disk and still keep them from trying to use 
 each other's Preferences files.
 
 I'm told that's no longer necessary, and in fact by creating a new Finale 
 2012 folder in my Applications folder, the 2012b updater didn't find the 
 original app and instead created a new (non-functioning) one outside my 
 Finale 2012 folder, leaving the original one alone. Once I dragged the 2012 
 app out of its own folder and reran the installer, it found it and 
 successfully updated it.
 
 I'm especially interested in using the new version to see if it will in fact 
 generate new FAN files for the Bill Duncan chord symbol fonts so I don't have 
 to search for the proper version of the FAN file if I'm using a document that 
 can't find it for some reason. What keeps happening is that ties, etc. don't 
 position correctly in Rhythmic Notation if you don't have the correct FAN 
 file installed, so I'm hopeful this will smooth things out in that department.
 
 Doug
 
 
 On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Phillips, Justin wrote:
 
 We haven't seen this before and this is pretty odd. Do you know if Finale 
 was running when you tried to update?
 
 Also, I would highly encourage you to contact our support team about this so 
 we can learn a bit more. 
 
 ---
 Justin Phillips
 Portfolio Manager-Notation Products
 MakeMusic, Inc. 
 763-772-3964
 
 
 On Jun 26, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Doug Walter dew...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Anybody else having any trouble updating FinMac 2012 to 2012b? I downloaded 
 the updater and ran it , seemingly without problems, but instead of 
 updating the Finale 2012.app, it created a separate Finale 2012.app in my 
 Applications  folder, but outside the Finale 2012 folder which contains 
 only the original app and the Finale 2012 Preferences file.
 
 Once it did that, all my Finale files on my disk now have generic file 
 icons. If I try to open a Finale file by double-clicking it, or if I try to 
 open 2012b by double-clicking the application icon, I get the message 
 Unhandled exception caught on a generic-looking document icon with a 
 pencil, a ruler and a brush(?) on it. If I OK out of that dialog, I get the 
 Finale quit unexpectedly dialog.
 
 8-core Mac Pro, recently installed Lion 10.7.4.
 
 I even reinstalled the original 2012 app and redownloaded the updater, but 
 same result. Also tried rebooting the computer.
 
 Any enlightenment welcome.
 
 Thanks,
 Doug
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Re: [Finale] Trouble with 2012b Mac installer?

2012-06-27 Thread Chuck Israels
Dear Doug,

I am out of town for a week but would be interested to hear if the Bill Duncan 
FAN issue has been resolved, so that  I will know what to do when I get home. 
There were issues with some symbols showing up in slot positions in the editing 
matrix that were literally off the grid and therefore next to impossible to 
access in order edit the FAN files. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 27, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Doug Walter dew...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Successful resolution:
 
 Just to warn anyone else who might be succumbing to old habits, I had done 
 something that turns out to be unnecessary for versions since 2010 - I had 
 created a Finale 2012 folder inside my Applications folder and put the Finale 
 2012 app inside it along with the Finale 2012 Preferences file. I've been 
 doing that for years, because that used to be the only way to keep multiple 
 versions of Finale on your hard disk and still keep them from trying to use 
 each other's Preferences files.
 
 I'm told that's no longer necessary, and in fact by creating a new Finale 
 2012 folder in my Applications folder, the 2012b updater didn't find the 
 original app and instead created a new (non-functioning) one outside my 
 Finale 2012 folder, leaving the original one alone. Once I dragged the 2012 
 app out of its own folder and reran the installer, it found it and 
 successfully updated it.
 
 I'm especially interested in using the new version to see if it will in fact 
 generate new FAN files for the Bill Duncan chord symbol fonts so I don't have 
 to search for the proper version of the FAN file if I'm using a document that 
 can't find it for some reason. What keeps happening is that ties, etc. don't 
 position correctly in Rhythmic Notation if you don't have the correct FAN 
 file installed, so I'm hopeful this will smooth things out in that department.
 
 Doug
 
 
 On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Phillips, Justin wrote:
 
 We haven't seen this before and this is pretty odd. Do you know if Finale 
 was running when you tried to update?
 
 Also, I would highly encourage you to contact our support team about this so 
 we can learn a bit more. 
 
 ---
 Justin Phillips
 Portfolio Manager-Notation Products
 MakeMusic, Inc. 
 763-772-3964
 
 
 On Jun 26, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Doug Walter dew...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Anybody else having any trouble updating FinMac 2012 to 2012b? I downloaded 
 the updater and ran it , seemingly without problems, but instead of 
 updating the Finale 2012.app, it created a separate Finale 2012.app in my 
 Applications  folder, but outside the Finale 2012 folder which contains 
 only the original app and the Finale 2012 Preferences file.
 
 Once it did that, all my Finale files on my disk now have generic file 
 icons. If I try to open a Finale file by double-clicking it, or if I try to 
 open 2012b by double-clicking the application icon, I get the message 
 Unhandled exception caught on a generic-looking document icon with a 
 pencil, a ruler and a brush(?) on it. If I OK out of that dialog, I get the 
 Finale quit unexpectedly dialog.
 
 8-core Mac Pro, recently installed Lion 10.7.4.
 
 I even reinstalled the original 2012 app and redownloaded the updater, but 
 same result. Also tried rebooting the computer.
 
 Any enlightenment welcome.
 
 Thanks,
 Doug
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Re: [Finale] Trouble with 2012b Mac installer?

2012-06-27 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2012-06-27 19:43, Chuck Israels wrote:

 I am out of town for a week but would be interested to hear if
 the Bill Duncan FAN issue has been resolved, so that  I will
  know what to do when I get home. There were issues with some
 symbols showing up in slot positions in the editing matrix
 that were literally off the grid and therefore next to
 impossible to access in order edit the FAN files.

But that's caused by the font not being listed in MacSymbolFonts.txt. 
Add any 3rd party music fonts you use to that file, and the problem will 
go away.


Best regards,

Jari Williamsson

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Re: [Finale] Trouble with 2012b Mac installer?

2012-06-27 Thread SN jef chippewa

i would just underline that jari's explanation solved exactly this 
problem with my own custom fonts recently.

   symbols showing up in slot positions in the editing matrix
   that were literally off the grid and therefore next to
   impossible to access in order edit the FAN files.

But that's caused by the font not being listed in 
MacSymbolFonts.txt.  Add any 3rd party music fonts you use to that 
file, and the problem will go away.

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Re: [Finale] Trouble with 2012b Mac installer?

2012-06-27 Thread Chuck Israels
Jari to the rescue yet again. Many thanks for this easy solution to what seemed 
so complicated. 

Chuck

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 27, 2012, at 4:17 PM, Jari Williamsson 
jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote:

 On 2012-06-27 19:43, Chuck Israels wrote:
 
 I am out of town for a week but would be interested to hear if
 the Bill Duncan FAN issue has been resolved, so that  I will
 know what to do when I get home. There were issues with some
 symbols showing up in slot positions in the editing matrix
 that were literally off the grid and therefore next to
 impossible to access in order edit the FAN files.
 
 But that's caused by the font not being listed in MacSymbolFonts.txt. 
 Add any 3rd party music fonts you use to that file, and the problem will 
 go away.
 
 
 Best regards,
 
 Jari Williamsson
 
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Re: [Finale] Trouble with 2012b Mac installer?

2012-06-27 Thread Doug Walter
Thanks for the quick reply, Justin. I don't *think* Finale was running when 
this happened, but it's certainly possible.

I'll call support this morning.

Doug


On Jun 26, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Phillips, Justin wrote:

 We haven't seen this before and this is pretty odd. Do you know if Finale was 
 running when you tried to update?
 
 Also, I would highly encourage you to contact our support team about this so 
 we can learn a bit more. 
 
 ---
 Justin Phillips
 Portfolio Manager-Notation Products
 MakeMusic, Inc. 
 763-772-3964
 
 
 On Jun 26, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Doug Walter dew...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 Anybody else having any trouble updating FinMac 2012 to 2012b? I downloaded 
 the updater and ran it , seemingly without problems, but instead of updating 
 the Finale 2012.app, it created a separate Finale 2012.app in my 
 Applications  folder, but outside the Finale 2012 folder which contains 
 only the original app and the Finale 2012 Preferences file.
 
 Once it did that, all my Finale files on my disk now have generic file 
 icons. If I try to open a Finale file by double-clicking it, or if I try to 
 open 2012b by double-clicking the application icon, I get the message 
 Unhandled exception caught on a generic-looking document icon with a 
 pencil, a ruler and a brush(?) on it. If I OK out of that dialog, I get the 
 Finale quit unexpectedly dialog.
 
 8-core Mac Pro, recently installed Lion 10.7.4.
 
 I even reinstalled the original 2012 app and redownloaded the updater, but 
 same result. Also tried rebooting the computer.
 
 Any enlightenment welcome.
 
 Thanks,
 Doug
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[Finale] Trouble with 2012b Mac installer?

2012-06-26 Thread Doug Walter
Anybody else having any trouble updating FinMac 2012 to 2012b? I downloaded the 
updater and ran it , seemingly without problems, but instead of updating the 
Finale 2012.app, it created a separate Finale 2012.app in my Applications   
   folder, but outside the Finale 2012 folder which contains only the original 
app and the Finale 2012 Preferences file.

Once it did that, all my Finale files on my disk now have generic file icons. 
If I try to open a Finale file by double-clicking it, or if I try to open 2012b 
by double-clicking the application icon, I get the message Unhandled exception 
caught on a generic-looking document icon with a pencil, a ruler and a 
brush(?) on it. If I OK out of that dialog, I get the Finale quit 
unexpectedly dialog.

8-core Mac Pro, recently installed Lion 10.7.4.

I even reinstalled the original 2012 app and redownloaded the updater, but same 
result. Also tried rebooting the computer.

Any enlightenment welcome.

Thanks,
Doug
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Re: [Finale] Trouble with 2012b Mac installer?

2012-06-26 Thread Phillips, Justin
We haven't seen this before and this is pretty odd. Do you know if Finale was 
running when you tried to update?

Also, I would highly encourage you to contact our support team about this so we 
can learn a bit more. 

---
Justin Phillips
Portfolio Manager-Notation Products
MakeMusic, Inc. 
763-772-3964


On Jun 26, 2012, at 11:49 PM, Doug Walter dew...@earthlink.net wrote:

 Anybody else having any trouble updating FinMac 2012 to 2012b? I downloaded 
 the updater and ran it , seemingly without problems, but instead of updating 
 the Finale 2012.app, it created a separate Finale 2012.app in my Applications 
  folder, but outside the Finale 2012 folder which contains only the 
 original app and the Finale 2012 Preferences file.
 
 Once it did that, all my Finale files on my disk now have generic file icons. 
 If I try to open a Finale file by double-clicking it, or if I try to open 
 2012b by double-clicking the application icon, I get the message Unhandled 
 exception caught on a generic-looking document icon with a pencil, a ruler 
 and a brush(?) on it. If I OK out of that dialog, I get the Finale quit 
 unexpectedly dialog.
 
 8-core Mac Pro, recently installed Lion 10.7.4.
 
 I even reinstalled the original 2012 app and redownloaded the updater, but 
 same result. Also tried rebooting the computer.
 
 Any enlightenment welcome.
 
 Thanks,
 Doug
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