Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
Richard Yates wrote: Now, apparently only for reasons of foolish consistency to help berginners, it has been changed to the Options Menu which makes the shortcut Alt-O-A. This combination is impossible with one hand. For me the change is an affront to experienced users. What's wrong with using Shift+Alt+S? Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
Now, apparently only for reasons of foolish consistency to help berginners, it has been changed to the Options Menu which makes the shortcut Alt-O-A. This combination is impossible with one hand. For me the change is an affront to experienced users. What's wrong with using Shift+Alt+S? Didn't know that one! Thanks. RY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
On Mar 16, 2005, at 7:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working with the demo version of F2005, which does not include any documentation or online help (stupidly, if I may say so). If I want to delete the contents of e.g. layer 4 in a given part, In Finale 2002 I'm used to being able to select that layer and then selecting Show Active Layer Only from the view menu. This allows me to select the music in question and then use backspace to remove the contents of that layer. The contents of other layers remain unaffected. The Show Active Layer Only is no more, apparently. So how do I select a single layer to clear its contents? Simply selecting the layer and then the music in question still removes the contents in all layers when I hit backspace. Thanks, JC Show Active Layer Only is still there. It's in Options menu now, that's all. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Show Active Layer Only is no more, apparently. In Fin2005 it was moved to the Options menu, since it was misleading to have it in the View menu (it's an option that's stored in the document, it affects editing and printing). Bwst regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
Jari Williamsson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Show Active Layer Only is no more, apparently. In Fin2005 it was moved to the Options menu, since it was misleading to have it in the View menu (it's an option that's stored in the document, it affects editing and printing). Bwst regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale If it's called show it should be in the View menu. Since it has many more functions, it ought to be renamed to Work on and Display Active Layer Only and then I wouldn't have any objection to it being in the Options menu. Everything else in the View menu is an Option and some can affect printing as well (colors, for instance), so why not include them ALL in the Options menu? -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
dhbailey wrote: Everything else in the View menu is an Option and some can affect printing as well (colors, for instance), so why not include them ALL in the Options menu? Colors are not stored in the document and they don't affect editing. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
On Mar 16, 2005, at 5:43 AM, dhbailey wrote: If it's called show it should be in the View menu. Kinds seems that way to me too. Since it has many more functions, it ought to be renamed to Work on and Display Active Layer Only and then I wouldn't have any objection to it being in the Options menu. This too, makes sense to me. Of course, it doesn't matter, as long as one can find it. I just think it will be easier for those who are looking for it for the first time, if the name seems to agree with the menu location. Chuck Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
On Mar 16, 2005, at 5:43 AM, dhbailey wrote: If it's called show it should be in the View menu. Agreed, but I'd say it shouldn't be called show. The change makes sense. This change should have been near the top of the what's new in v2k5 message. They still do that, right? The real purpose of a what's new should be to warn longtime users of things like this that have been rearranged and cause confusion. Unfortunately, many companies can't resist using it as yet another advertisement for new added features instead. mdl ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
Mark D Lew wrote: On Mar 16, 2005, at 5:43 AM, dhbailey wrote: If it's called show it should be in the View menu. Agreed, but I'd say it shouldn't be called show. The change makes sense. I think the issue might be that it's still called Show Active Layer Only, despite the move to the Options menu in Fin2005. So if it was renamed Options/Active Layer Only, everything would make a bit more sense. I personally think it's a bad UI approach to use as many verbs in the menus as Finale currently does. Like View/Show Grids would be equally clear if it was named View/Grids, wouldn't it? As a comparison, the menu doesn't say View/Display Scroll View but View/Scroll View. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
but I'd say it shouldn't be called show. The change makes sense. Other applications such as DP calls such view filter, you filter out data you don't want to mess with. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
On 16 Mar 2005 at 9:29, Mark D Lew wrote: On Mar 16, 2005, at 5:43 AM, dhbailey wrote: If it's called show it should be in the View menu. Agreed, but I'd say it shouldn't be called show. The change makes sense. I don't quite understand why a command must exist on only one menu, especially one like this that has effects at multiple levels. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
Jari Williamsson wrote: dhbailey wrote: Everything else in the View menu is an Option and some can affect printing as well (colors, for instance), so why not include them ALL in the Options menu? Colors are not stored in the document and they don't affect editing. View Active Layer isn't stored in the document, either. I just think it needs a new name, since it isn't just for viewing anything, it's for working on specific layers without affecting other layers. I really don't care where they put it as long as I can find it. Just splitting hairs. :-) -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
Just an aside to this thread- someone mentioned colours. Often when looking on screen at a score- or especially a short score, I am aware of how useful it is to have, say, the 'lead' line, or a counter melody, in a colour. (Or even an obscure entry.) Even a Solo passage in a part. Obviously, use the layer colours. I know it wouldn't work under all circumstances- I did a gig in London where all markings, (in red ink,) vanished under pit lights!! Question, can Finale be printed in colours? If so how? if not, why not? Cheers - Happy Saint Pats!! Keith in OZ Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0436-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of dhbailey Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2005 6:49 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer Jari Williamsson wrote: dhbailey wrote: Everything else in the View menu is an Option and some can affect printing as well (colors, for instance), so why not include them ALL in the Options menu? Colors are not stored in the document and they don't affect editing. View Active Layer isn't stored in the document, either. I just think it needs a new name, since it isn't just for viewing anything, it's for working on specific layers without affecting other layers. I really don't care where they put it as long as I can find it. Just splitting hairs. :-) -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.3 - Release Date: 15/03/2005 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
Keith Helgesen wrote: Just an aside to this thread- someone mentioned colours. Often when looking on screen at a score- or especially a short score, I am aware of how useful it is to have, say, the 'lead' line, or a counter melody, in a colour. (Or even an obscure entry.) Even a Solo passage in a part. Obviously, use the layer colours. I know it wouldn't work under all circumstances- I did a gig in London where all markings, (in red ink,) vanished under pit lights!! Question, can Finale be printed in colours? If so how? if not, why not? Yes -- you can print the displayed colors. It's an option in the Print dialog. It's been possible for a few versions now, but I can't remember which version introduced it. Finale's colors only work for layers (you can have a different color for each layer, but that color is the same for all notes in that layer on all staves) but you could do what you are describing easily enough in Finale. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
dhbailey wrote: View Active Layer isn't stored in the document, either. On my Fin2005 at least, Show Active Layer Only is stored with the document. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
Jari Williamsson wrote: dhbailey wrote: View Active Layer isn't stored in the document, either. On my Fin2005 at least, Show Active Layer Only is stored with the document. You are correct, my mistake. What ISN'T saved is that it doesn't open the document with the layer you had active when you saved the document as the current active layer. It always comes up with Layer 1 active. So what's the point? -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] removing contents of a single layer
Of course, it doesn't matter, as long as one can find it. The Menu per se does not matter at all. What does matter is the shortcut. I have been doing Alt-V-A so long that it is a natural no-look move with my left hand. Now, apparently only for reasons of foolish consistency to help berginners, it has been changed to the Options Menu which makes the shortcut Alt-O-A. This combination is impossible with one hand. For me the change is an affront to experienced users. Richard Yates ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
