On Jul 24, 2005, at 1:36 AM, Ken Durling wrote:
Um, did I rank any of Chuck's achievements? Did I say cooler than?
If I misread your post, I apologise, but when you say now that is a
cool thing it sort of implies that maybe some previous things WEREN'T
as cool as that. I was reacting to
On Jul 24, 2005, at 1:05 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Jul 24, 2005, at 1:36 AM, Ken Durling wrote:
Um, did I rank any of Chuck's achievements? Did I say cooler than?
If I misread your post, I apologise, but when you say now that is
a cool thing it sort of implies that maybe some
Chuck Israels wrote:
About Carl Dershem's suggestion that my autobiography ought to be a
great read: a few summers ago, I wrote about 200 pages of a spew draft
of a memoir, showed it to a few people and then left it to sit for a
(long) while. Now it looks about 40 to 50% pertinent and
On Jul 16, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Joel Sears wrote:
Wow! That's the first time I've heard that. There's a band on the West
Cost called Big Phat Band, I just thought they were being cute.
Yeah! Gordon Goodwin's band, honking hot!
This guy Gordon Goodwin has never written a bad chart. Or if he
On Jul 16, 2005, at 11:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that is a cool thing to have on your resume, Chuck. That's
great.
Ken
Cooler than playing WITH Bill Evans, John Coltrane, Herbie Hancock, and
directing the National Jazz Ensemble? I dunno, but I would have ranked
those
Christopher Smith wrote:
Remember Lenny Bruce's schtick on What I don't understand is why
saying 'F%$# You' is a BAD thing??
I certainly do. I spent 6 weeks working opposite him at the Village
Vanguard some (how many!?) years ago.
Now that is a cool thing to have on your resume, Chuck.
On Jul 17, 2005, at 12:01 PM, John Howell wrote:
In the USAF band in the late '50s, one's instrument was referred to
as one's axe for no discernable reason
And today still, among jazz musicians, where it has become part of the
technical jargon. I'm not certain, but I think it used to be
Um, did I rank any of Chuck's achievements? Did I say cooler than? Do I
need a lecture on who the jazz greats are? Is Lenny Bruce a comedian?
Ken
At 08:57 PM 7/23/2005, you wrote:
On Jul 16, 2005, at 11:30 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now that is a cool thing to have on your resume,
Phil Daley wrote:
At 7/19/2005 11:42 AM, John Howell wrote:
At 10:47 PM -0400 7/18/05, Raymond Horton wrote:
Perhaps, but that might be supposing too much. I would think it's
just a term for a tool of the trade. (Personally, I heard axe
years before I ever heard of woodshedding.)
And
At 7/20/2005 05:55 AM, dhbailey wrote:
Phil Daley wrote:
At 7/19/2005 11:42 AM, John Howell wrote:
At 10:47 PM -0400 7/18/05, Raymond Horton wrote:
Perhaps, but that might be supposing too much. I would think it's
just a term for a tool of the trade. (Personally, I heard axe
years
On 7/20/05, Phil Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can agree with that. That is probably the real reason.
I find groups that do visual things while singing very distracting from the
music. But, I guess that's me.
Me too. Some groups can do both well, but what often happens is that
the
At 9:12 AM -0400 7/20/05, Lora Crighton wrote:
On 7/20/05, Phil Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I can agree with that. That is probably the real reason.
I find groups that do visual things while singing very distracting from the
music. But, I guess that's me.
Me too. Some groups can
At 7/20/2005 11:33 AM, John Howell wrote:
There's a three-part approach to this that works well with amateurs,
and even with professionals. First you teach the music, making sure
that all the parts are solidly learned. Then teach the choreography,
during which they forget half the music. Then
On 7/20/05, Phil Daley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 7/20/2005 11:33 AM, John Howell wrote:
There's a three-part approach to this that works well with amateurs,
and even with professionals. First you teach the music, making sure
that all the parts are solidly learned. Then teach the
On 20 Jul 2005 at 4:00, John Bell wrote:
On 20 Jul 2005, at 03:05, Raymond Horton wrote:
I know a percussionist who talks about keeping his chops in shape.
Maybe for playing the musical saw.
The first time I encountered the term chops was at a summer band
camp when I was 17. One of the
Wow. is there really any argument about what chops means? It's always
meant technique to me and everyone I know.
Ken
At 11:41 AM 7/20/2005, you wrote:
On 20 Jul 2005 at 4:00, John Bell wrote:
On 20 Jul 2005, at 03:05, Raymond Horton wrote:
I know a percussionist who talks about keeping
At 7/18/2005 11:43 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:
Ken Durling wrote:
At 07:57 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:
Not a clue as to the origins of 'ax' in any case.
Well, is chops a clue?
Maybe... but then what happens when you're talking about sax players?
;)
Are you saying sax players don't have
At 10:47 PM -0400 7/18/05, Raymond Horton wrote:
Perhaps, but that might be supposing too much. I would think it's
just a term for a tool of the trade. (Personally, I heard axe
years before I ever heard of woodshedding.)
And barbershopers have been using woodshedding for decades, and
At 7/19/2005 11:42 AM, John Howell wrote:
At 10:47 PM -0400 7/18/05, Raymond Horton wrote:
Perhaps, but that might be supposing too much. I would think it's
just a term for a tool of the trade. (Personally, I heard axe
years before I ever heard of woodshedding.)
And barbershopers have been
On 19 Jul 2005 at 13:11, Phil Daley wrote:
I can sing the music correctly the first time through, obviously, using the
music. What do I gain by spending my time memorizing the same music?
The ability to use your visual attention entirely to maintain
ensemble with the rest of the group?
At 1:11 PM -0400 7/19/05, Phil Daley wrote:
At 7/19/2005 11:42 AM, John Howell wrote:
At 10:47 PM -0400 7/18/05, Raymond Horton wrote:
Perhaps, but that might be supposing too much. I would think it's
just a term for a tool of the trade. (Personally, I heard axe
years before I ever heard of
At 7/19/2005 04:17 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 1:11 PM -0400 7/19/05, Phil Daley wrote:
I can understand that 90% of people in those groups have to learn
the music by rote, since they are clueless about actually reading
the music. But why penalize me?
Of course they do, and that's typical of
On 7/17/05, John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now where you have a problem with shifting meanings rather than with
archaic slang is with the pre-WW 2 songs that use gay simply to
mean happy, like Glitter and Be Gay and a ton of others. Don we
now our gay apparel? Not cool! Or to be
On 7/19/05, John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But I've also known legit choral conductors who insist on
memorization because (a) you don't really know the music inside out
until you've memorized it, (b) you can't concentrate on the
conductor's every gesture and expression when half your
On Jul 19, 2005, at 4:40 PM, Lora Crighton wrote:
I actually find it easier to focus on things like tuning balance if
I have my score, because I can see what the other parts are doing -
I have found that, also.
I'm always reading my own part at least one other. Or are you
suggesting
On 19 Jul 2005 at 17:49, Mark D Lew wrote:
I can't recall ever intentionally memorizing all parts for a choral
piece I'm singing in, but I would generally learn all four parts for
any piece where I'm the choral director, and if I later have occasion
to sing the same piece then I know all
On 7/19/05, Mark D Lew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Jul 19, 2005, at 4:40 PM, Lora Crighton wrote:
I actually find it easier to focus on things like tuning balance if
I have my score, because I can see what the other parts are doing -
I have found that, also.
I'm always reading my
Phil Daley wrote:
At 7/18/2005 11:43 PM, Carl Dershem wrote:
Ken Durling wrote:
At 07:57 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:
Not a clue as to the origins of 'ax' in any case.
Well, is chops a clue?
Maybe... but then what happens when you're talking about sax players?
;)
Are you
In the bad old days, singers in an opera or symphony chorus would
sometimes be given parts that included only their music with no
orchestra reduction. Sometimes it wouldn't even include all the other
choral parts. I remember that Carmina Burana used to come with one
chorus part for the mean
I know a percussionist who talks about keeping his chops in shape.
RBH
Not a clue as to the origins of 'ax' in any case.
Well, is chops a clue?
Maybe... but then what happens when you're talking about sax players?
;)
Are you saying sax players don't have chops??
We all need to keep our chops in shape, on all our axes, so that we'll
do well on our gigs.
JS
On Jul 19, 2005, at 9:05 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
I know a percussionist who talks about keeping his chops in shape.
RBH
Not a clue as to the origins of 'ax' in any case.
Well, is
Maybe for playing the musical saw.
On 20 Jul 2005, at 03:05, Raymond Horton wrote:
I know a percussionist who talks about keeping his chops in shape.
RBH
Not a clue as to the origins of 'ax' in any case.
Well, is chops a clue?
Maybe... but then what happens when you're
Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 17 Jul 2005, at 3:28 PM, Ken Durling wrote:
Surely you remember Isaac Hayes and Super Fly?
No, not Isaac Hayes. Curtis Mayfield! BIG difference.
Isaac Hayes did Shaft.
--
David H. Bailey
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On Jul 17, 2005, at 6:06 PM, keith helgesen wrote:
x-tad-biggerInteresting- the line from the show Kiss me Kate = I've come to /x-tad-biggerx-tad-biggerswive/x-tad-biggerx-tad-bigger it (something)ly in Padua. - always had me puzzled! It makes sense now!/x-tad-bigger
On the off chance that
On Jul 17, 2005, at 3:55 PM, Crystal Premo wrote:
I vote that we bring the word swyve or suive if you prefer, back into common usage.
John Barth attempted to do this 40 years ago, in The Sotweed Factor. The book (set in 18th-c. Maryland) employs the word very frequently, and ends with these
In the USAF band in the late '50s, one's instrument was referred to
as one's axe for no discernable reason,
It was (still is?) widespread jazz terminology--like gig.
Still is.
RBH
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On Jul 17, 2005, at 6:06 PM, keith helgesen wrote:
Interesting- the line from
the show Kiss me Kate
Raymond Horton wrote:
In the USAF band in the late '50s, one's instrument was referred to
as one's axe for no discernable reason,
It was (still is?) widespread jazz terminology--like gig.
The use of the term axe goes along with the term woodshedding --
what other tool would you use
Perhaps, but that might be supposing too much. I would think it's just
a term for a tool of the trade. (Personally, I heard axe years before
I ever heard of woodshedding.)
RBH
dhbailey wrote:
Raymond Horton wrote:
In the USAF band in the late '50s, one's instrument was referred
to as
Raymond Horton wrote:
dhbailey wrote:
Raymond Horton wrote:
In the USAF band in the late '50s, one's instrument was referred
to as one's axe for no discernable reason,
It was (still is?) widespread jazz terminology--like gig.
The use of the term axe goes along with the term
At 07:57 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:
Not a clue as to the origins of 'ax' in any case.
Well, is chops a clue?
Ken
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Ken Durling wrote:
At 07:57 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:
Not a clue as to the origins of 'ax' in any case.
Well, is chops a clue?
Maybe... but then what happens when you're talking about sax players?
;)
cd
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Hey, I resemble that remark! 8-P
Ken
At 08:43 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:
Ken Durling wrote:
At 07:57 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:
Not a clue as to the origins of 'ax' in any case.
Well, is chops a clue?
Maybe... but then what happens when you're talking about sax players?
;)
cd
On 16 Jul 2005, at 11:46 PM, keith helgesen wrote:
I think I agree with you! After all, (to sail VERY close to the wind), the
assertion is around that the acronym for File Under Carnal Knowledge used
to be placed on Police files- thus creating the slang term for- well, you
know!
I suspect that
At 1:46 PM +1000 7/17/05, keith helgesen wrote:
I think I agree with you! After all, (to sail VERY close to the
wind), the assertion is around that the acronym for File Under
Carnal Knowledge used to be placed on Police files- thus creating
the slang term for- well, you know!
I suspect that
At 11:56 PM 7/16/2005, Ken Durling wrote:
As long as we're talking about slang superlatives, I'd like to hear
some
theories about where fly came from or how it came to mean
what it
does. I was surprised to read that it was in usage in the
30's - in
Duke's Music is my Mistress with much the
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Subject: Re: [Finale] Blowing O.T.
Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:03:49 -0400
Crystal, even though I still think your name is most certainly Phat (I
believe I gushed about it once before), I really doubt that derivation.
I'd be willing to bet cold cash that the word came first.
RBH
Crystal Premo
As long as you still like my name, I don't care about Fat and Phat.
Crystal Premo
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Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:03:49 -0400
Crystal, even though I still
That word you refer to is a very old one, originally quite acceptable, and
recorded in an English dictionary as early as 1598.
Crystal Premo
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To: finale@shsu.edu
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Date: Sun
On Jul 16, 2005, at 11:46 PM, keith helgesen wrote:
I think I agree with you! After all, (to sail VERY close to the wind),
the
assertion is around that the acronym for File Under Carnal Knowledge
used
to be placed on Police files- thus creating the slang term for- well,
you
know!
Beggin'
On Jul 16, 2005, at 11:56 PM, Ken Durling wrote:
As long as we're talking about slang superlatives, I'd like to hear
some theories about where fly came from or how it came to mean what
it does. I was surprised to read that it was in usage in the 30's -
in Duke's Music is my Mistress with
At 10:26 AM -0400 7/17/05, Andrew Stiller wrote:
Beggin' your pardon, but that word is not slang.
Here's how my dictionary defines slang: 1) A
kind of language esp. occurring in casual or
playful speech, usu. made up of short-lived
coinages and figures of speech *deliberately
used in place
In a message dated 17/07/2005 17:02:09 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Anglo-Saxon, n'est-çe pas?
No, it isn't Anglo Saxon :-)
All the best,
Lawrence
þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg
http://lawrenceyates.co.uk
Dulcian Wind Quintet: http://dulcianwind.co.uk
Using slang often has drawbacks. You can identify yourself as in a
momentarily in group, only to find your expression hopelessly out
of date in a short time. None of this is news to most of you, but it
strikes me as most unfortunate that the otherwise beautiful,
lyrically and musically
At 9:42 AM -0700 7/17/05, Chuck Israels wrote:
Using slang often has drawbacks. You can identify yourself as in a
momentarily in group, only to find your expression hopelessly out
of date in a short time. None of this is news to most of you, but
it strikes me as most unfortunate that the
True, but in this case the song is so well established that I don't even
think of the title as being archaic. It says what it says, and everybody
knows what it means. (Or maybe not; maybe we should try it on Crystal's
teenagers!)
I just sang part of the song for my thirteen-year-old and
From Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins by Robert Hendrickson, 1987:
f*ck. Originally a quite acceptable word, f*ck was recorded in an English
dictionary as early as John Florio's A World of Words (1598). The word
doesn't drive from the police blotter entry [booked] for unlawful carnal
I don't get it, what's the hang up with that song title?
The other day, I was in a conversation with a group at work. I said
wouldn't be neat if we could... A twenty something coworker asked
did you say neat? To which I answered totally.
JS
On Jul 17, 2005, at 11:42 AM, Chuck Israels
I still use these expressions: dig it, groovy, cat. People seem to
understand me.
Crystal Premo
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Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:24:36 -0500
I don't get
OK, I admit to a personal viewpoint about this. Hang you up the
most sounds dated and awkward to my ears, and I wouldn't have used
it when it was current slang (in my college years, or something like
that). Now, using current internet jargon, I say, YMMV. :-)
Chuck
On Jul 17, 2005, at
Andrew Stiller wrote:
On Jul 16, 2005, at 11:46 PM, keith helgesen wrote:
I think I agree with you! After all, (to sail VERY close to the wind),
the
assertion is around that the acronym for File Under Carnal Knowledge
used
to be placed on Police files- thus creating the slang term for-
At 09:01 AM 7/17/2005, you wrote:
At 10:26 AM -0400 7/17/05, Andrew Stiller wrote:
Beggin' your pardon, but that word is not slang. Here's how my dictionary
defines slang: 1) A kind of language esp. occurring in casual or playful
speech, usu. made up of short-lived coinages and figures of
of tapes, or simply
because I dislike the juxtaposition of tapes and dreams. I think it is the
latter.
Crystal Premo
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Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:34:06 -0700
OK
On 17 Jul 2005, at 3:28 PM, Ken Durling wrote:
Surely you remember Isaac Hayes and Super Fly?
No, not Isaac Hayes. Curtis Mayfield! BIG difference.
- Darcy
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I vote that we bring the word swyve or suive if you prefer, back into
common usage.
This conversation is getting on my swyving nerves.
Crystal Premo
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On 17 Jul 2005 at 13:46, keith helgesen wrote:
I think I agree with you! After all, (to sail VERY close to the wind), the
assertion is around that the acronym for File Under Carnal Knowledge used
to be placed on Police files- thus creating the slang term for- well, you
know!
I suspect that
Yow!! You're sure right, Curtis Mayfield was great.Mea culpa. Hayes
was Shaft.
Ken
At 12:54 PM 7/17/2005, you wrote:
On 17 Jul 2005, at 3:28 PM, Ken Durling wrote:
Surely you remember Isaac Hayes and Super Fly?
No, not Isaac Hayes. Curtis Mayfield! BIG difference.
- Darcy
On 17 Jul 2005 at 13:00, John Howell wrote:
Now where you have a problem with shifting meanings rather than with
archaic slang is with the pre-WW 2 songs that use gay simply to
mean happy, like Glitter and Be Gay and a ton of others. Don we
now our gay apparel? Not cool! Or to be more
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I still use these expressions: dig it, groovy, cat. People
seem to
understand me
On Jul 15, 2005, at 5:47 AM, Christopher Smith wrote:
Maybe fifteen years ago I first heard blows meaning bad. It was
around the time that the expression blowing chunks (for throwing
up) gained popularity, and often the two were interchanged. That
team blows chunks! would be freely
At 01:17 AM 7/16/2005, you wrote:
I'm pretty sure there *is* a connection between phat and fat. The
acronymic etymologies are all fallacious.
Like as in a fat bankroll or paycheck.
Ken
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I am getting just the end of this, so forgive me if this has been stated,
but phat means pretty hot and tempting.
Crystal Premo
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Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005
At 05:47 AM 7/15/2005, you wrote:
Showing up farther down the list doesn't mean much, I think. Context
determines meaning.
Remember Lenny Bruce's schtick on What I don't understand is why saying
'F%$# You' is a BAD thing??
Ken
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pretty hot and tempting.
Crystal Premo
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Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 06:37:50 -0700
At 01:17 AM 7/16/2005, you wrote:
I'm pretty sure there *is* a connection
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Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 06:37:50 -0700
At 01:17 AM 7/16/2005, you wrote:
I'm pretty sure there *is* a connection between phat and fat.
The acronymic etymologies are all fallacious.
Like as in a fat bankroll
On Jul 16, 2005, at 7:06 AM, Ken Durling wrote:
At 05:47 AM 7/15/2005, you wrote:
Showing up farther down the list doesn't mean much, I think.
Context determines meaning.
Remember Lenny Bruce's schtick on What I don't understand is why
saying 'F%$# You' is a BAD thing??
Ken
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I
Now that is a cool thing to have on your resume, Chuck. That's great.
Ken
Remember Lenny Bruce's schtick on What I don't understand is why
saying 'F%$# You' is a BAD thing??
Ken
_
I certainly do. I spent 6 weeks working opposite him at the Village
Vanguard some (how many!?) years
At 09:41 AM 7/16/2005, you wrote:
Enough on this OT topic from me today. Just intrigued that others
are interested in some of this arcane history.
Thank you kindly for sharing those reflections, Chuck. I'm sure I could
listen to your stories for hours! You've known and worked with some
On Jul 16, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Ken Durling wrote:
At 09:41 AM 7/16/2005, you wrote:
Enough on this OT topic from me today. Just intrigued that others
are interested in some of this arcane history.
Thank you kindly for sharing those reflections, Chuck. I'm sure I
could listen to your
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Now that is a cool thing to have on your resume, Chuck. That's great.
Ken
Remember Lenny Bruce's schtick on What I don't understand is why
saying 'F%$# You' is a BAD thing??
Ken
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I certainly do. I spent 6 weeks working opposite him at the Village
That's almost certainly a joke made up for the movie.
Really, the transition from a fat beat to a phat beat doesn't
require an elaborate alternative explanation.
- Darcy
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On 16 Jul 2005, at 4:24 PM, Crystal Premo wrote:
True, nevertheless. As a matter
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Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:39:45 -0400
That's almost certainly a joke made up for the movie.
Really, the transition from a fat beat to a phat beat doesn't require
an elaborate alternative explanation.
- Darcy
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At 04:56 PM 07/16/2005, Crystal Premo wrote:
I'm quite sure that the pretty hot and tempting explanation is not a
fantasy. Both my teenagers consider it common knowledge. They rolled their
eyes at me with impatience when I asked just now.
See http://www.wordorigins.org/wordorp.htm#phat There
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As long as we're talking about slang superlatives, I'd like to hear some
theories about where fly came from or how it came to mean what it
does. I was surprised to read that it was in usage in the 30's - in
Duke's Music is my Mistress with much the same meaning (fly girl) as it
has now, or
On Jul 15, 2005, at 12:45 AM, Raymond Horton wrote:
Christopher Smith wrote:
Hmm, OK. Time for some slang etymology here.
...
Maybe fifteen years ago I first heard blows meaning bad. It was
around the time that the expression blowing chunks (for throwing
up) gained popularity, and often
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