Re: [Fink-devel] Apple's X11

2003-01-07 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 07:48 pm, Finlay Dobbie wrote: The user install download link at http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/download/ is broken currently. The SDK posted there won't help anyone, its just libraries and headers. The text link in the sidebar works, the graphic one

Re: [Fink-devel] Apple's X11

2003-01-07 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 07:44 pm, Ben Hines wrote: dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-base dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-base-shlibs For most of us that should probably be xfree86-base-threaded, xfree86-base-threaded-shlibs, xfree86-rootless-threaded and xfree86-rootless-threaded-shl

Re: [Fink-devel] /usr/local/fink

2003-01-08 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 07:53 am, David wrote: Installing from the Fink 0.5.0a disk image doesn't prompt me for a location; it automatically uses '/sw'. I'll go back and reinstall from the .tar.gz file. (But installing to a location other than the default will cause precompiled bin

Re: [Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 03:17 pm, Jared wrote: What does Fink's daemonic package do? I'm not familiar with it. Last i checked, it managed a load of startupitem bundles in /Library/StartupItems (can you say, ick?). -- Finlay ---

Re: [Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 08:17 pm, Max Horn wrote: Last i checked, it managed a load of startupitem bundles in /Library/StartupItems (can you say, ick?). I can say it, but I don't know why you would say it, how about elaborating? Mixing daemonic-managed startup items with non-daemoni

[Fink-devel] Apple's X11

2003-01-07 Thread Finlay Dobbie
http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ Just thought y'all should know :-) -- Finlay --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com _

Re: [Fink-devel] Apple's X11

2003-01-07 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 07:44 pm, Ben Hines wrote: The user install download link at http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/download/ is broken currently. The SDK posted there won't help anyone, its just libraries and headers. The text link in the sidebar works, the graphic one which links

[Fink-devel] kdelibs update problem?

2003-01-11 Thread Finlay Dobbie
Setting up kdelibs3-shlibs (3.1-1) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kdelibs3-dev: kdelibs3-dev depends on kdelibs3 (>= 3.1-1); however: Version of kdelibs3 on system is 3.0.7-3. dpkg: error processing kdelibs3-dev (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured eh

Re: [Fink-devel] kdelibs update problem?

2003-01-11 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 12:13 am, Finlay Dobbie wrote: Setting up kdelibs3-shlibs (3.1-1) ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kdelibs3-dev: kdelibs3-dev depends on kdelibs3 (>= 3.1-1); however: Version of kdelibs3 on system is 3.0.7-3. dpkg: error process

[Fink-devel] RFC: What will this break?

2003-01-13 Thread Finlay Dobbie
I just checked in a patch to Fink CVS which reworks the package indexing code. Previously, if we detected the db was out-of-date, we ignored the current one and rebuilt it from scratch. Now I made it so that if it detects a modified or new package, it injects the description for just the files

Re: [Fink-devel] Concerning the Copyright notice...

2003-01-13 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 10:43 pm, David R. Morrison wrote: Try 2001-03 Good idea. Still not perfect, but definitely better. I believe it's convention to use 2001-3 if you're going to omit digits (like ©1993-4 or whatever). -- Finlay ---

Re: [Fink-devel] RFC: What will this break?

2003-01-14 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 02:51 am, Max Horn wrote: I just checked in a patch to Fink CVS which reworks the package indexing code. It might be good to discuss changes like this *before* applying them, not afterwards... We can always back out the changes if needs be, and I had discuss

[Fink-devel] fink.conf(5) manpage added, docs suggestions

2003-01-15 Thread Finlay Dobbie
I added a manpage for fink.conf(5) based on the documentation in the Users Guide. I suggest we remove the documentation from the Users Guide, as the Users Guide is really a tutorial-style guide on how to use fink, rather than a reference for all the fields in the configuration file (new users s

[Fink-devel] mailing list archives

2003-01-16 Thread Finlay Dobbie
Just wondering why the mailing list archives on http://fink.sourceforge.net/lists/index.php point to www.mail-archive.com rather than SourceForge's mailing list archive? -- Finlay --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Thawte.com Understand

[Fink-devel] anonymous CVS back up

2003-01-17 Thread Finlay Dobbie
Just to alert everybody that SourceForge just announced CVS services have been restored. -- Finlay --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Thawte.com - A 128-bit supercerts will allow you to extend the highest allowed 128 bit encryption to al

Re: [Fink-devel] GNUStep

2003-01-25 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Saturday, January 25, 2003, at 01:17 am, Alexander Strange wrote: Do any of our friendly fink developers out there have any plans to add a GNUStep package? If so, I'd like to help, if not, then would anyone like to help me? JP I tried some, but gave up. ffcall needs a manual build to wor

Re: [Fink-devel] downloading source via CVS

2003-01-28 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Monday, January 27, 2003, at 09:30 pm, Alexander Strange wrote: The 'wtf' package does this. wtf-1.7-1.info: Source: mirror:sourceforge:fink/direct_download/source/%f.sh It does? -- Finlay --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: Sourc

Re: [Fink-devel] install_name perl script

2003-01-28 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 10:17 pm, Chris Zubrzycki wrote: On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 12:04 AM, Jeremy Erwin wrote: Hmm, after I fixed a spurious newline that my test editor had added in the midst of `/usr/bin/install_name_tool -change $File::Find::name $newlibrary $_\n`;, the

Re: [Fink-devel] Prebinding: Got Slid? revisited

2003-02-11 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 06:46 pm, Carsten Klapp wrote: I imagine Apple has such a seg_addr_table list internally for use with all it's frameworks and dylibs. Now we need to get our hands on one to find out what the format of this file is. Or just pester some cctools engineers. We h

Re: [Fink-devel] Prebinding: Got Slid? revisited

2003-02-11 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, February 11, 2003, at 07:02 pm, Ben Hines wrote: Just do "man seg_addr_table" to get all the info on the table. No manual entry for seg_addr_table Sure about that one? From cctools src: /* * parse_seg_addr_table() opens the file_name passed to it and parses it as a * segment

Re: [Fink-devel] index behaviour change (post 0.11.x)

2003-02-16 Thread Finlay Dobbie
Apparently my scanning code in the broken patch was more reliable (and possibly faster?), did it ever get remerged after I pulled it? :) ---- Finlay Dobbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hard work pays off with time, but laziness pays off now. --- This

Re: [Fink-devel] A suggestion for the fink package Manager

2003-02-19 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 10:27 am, David wrote: I give a damn on being on the front page of freshmeat, to be honest. But I do. Exposure is the one key issue, which will, amongst other things, keep Fink alive and kicking. The fact, that Fink really is a two part effort (package ma

[Fink-devel] Fwd: ion-20011109-1

2003-07-13 Thread Finlay Dobbie
I'm not maintaining this any more. Begin forwarded message: From: Dameron Midgette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon Jul 14, 2003 12:03:22 am Europe/London To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: ion-20011109-1 -- Package manager version: 0.13.3 Distribution version: 0.5.3.cvs Mac OS X version: 10.2.6 J

[Fink-devel] Fwd: passwd_20030621-1_darwin-powerpc.deb

2004-01-13 Thread Finlay Dobbie
I am no longer maintaining passwd, and it looks like this is a problem in the apt-get package depending on an old version anyway. -- Finlay Begin forwarded message: From: Alistair McMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 13 January 2004 14:13:54 GMT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: passwd_20030621-1_d

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.3.2a

2002-01-13 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, January 13, 2002, at 10:21 pm, Max Horn wrote: > Apple is claiming to work towards POSIX, but so far I haven't seen much > on that front. They have claimed that? When? In fact, I think I've heard them claim quite the opposite: that they don't care about being POSIX compliant, jus

Re: [Fink-devel] Fwd: Warning: message 16P1Ii-0005ZZ-00 delayed 48 hours

2002-01-13 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, January 13, 2002, at 10:38 pm, Max Horn wrote: > Interesting, interesting :) > > Maybe I should resend it? Or e-mail the guy that the domain is registered to. Use whois. -- Finlay ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.3.2a

2002-01-13 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, January 13, 2002, at 10:47 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> Apple is claiming to work towards POSIX, but so far I haven't seen >> much on that front. But actually, I'd prefer if they would finally >> fixing some of the really bad errors and shortcomings in the Unix >> part of OS X (like

Re: [Fink-devel] Apple, GNU, POSIX, and the mess we have

2002-01-14 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Monday, January 14, 2002, at 04:24 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Do you know if the legal resolution was: > > - we can use dpkg for Darwin because it will never ship with OSX > and is not required to build the foundation of OS X? > > - we can use dpkg for Darwin because our law

Re: [Fink-devel] Fwd: Warning: message 16P1Ii-0005ZZ-00 delayed 48 hours

2002-01-14 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Monday, January 14, 2002, at 06:38 pm, Max Horn wrote: >Domain Name: MACGIMP.ORG >Registrar: REGISTER.COM, INC. >Whois Server: whois.register.com >Referral URL: http://www.register.com >Name Server: DNS9.REGISTER.COM >Name Server: DNS10.REGISTER.COM >Updated Date:

Re: [Fink-devel] apache & php

2002-01-15 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, January 15, 2002, at 01:35 am, Nicholas Orr wrote: > On 15/1/02 11:57 AM, "Matt Stephenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Finlay has already taken over apache and update the package I think >> yesterday. > > The 1.3.22 in unstable compiles and runs just fine on my powerbook. No >

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: TkCVS - Use of directory mann?

2002-01-15 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, January 15, 2002, at 02:28 am, Dorothy Robinson wrote: > Just out of curiosity, how is it that "man" on MacOS X doesn't look in > mann? What do you mean, "how is it"? It's quite easy, you just don't specify it in the configuration file for man... -- Finlay __

Re: [Fink-devel] Common problems?

2002-01-15 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, January 15, 2002, at 04:15 am, Mike Barnes wrote: > Oh, small request: could someone put the "include sys/types.h before > dirent.h" problem into an FAQ somewhere. I manged to get Google to pull > it out of the list archives, but it wasn't easy. Spent about half an > hour on that on

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.3.2a

2002-01-15 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Monday, January 14, 2002, at 10:41 pm, Max Horn wrote: > Also, is it a good idea to use 0.3.2a (originally I thought this was > good to indicate only small things changed), or should we rather use > 0.3.3? I am still tending more to 0.3.2a, but I am certainly open on > suggestions :) 'a'

Re: [Fink-devel] 0.3.2a

2002-01-15 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, January 15, 2002, at 06:30 pm, Max Horn wrote: > At 18:20 Uhr + 15.01.2002, Finlay Dobbie wrote: >> On Monday, January 14, 2002, at 10:41 pm, Max Horn wrote: >> >>> Also, is it a good idea to use 0.3.2a (originally I thought this was >>> g

Re: [Fink-devel] Common problems?

2002-01-15 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, January 15, 2002, at 06:35 pm, Max Horn wrote: > Plus there is no "developer FAQ" currently. I am not sure if it is > exactly part of our goal to write a full detail porting guide, anyway. > At least I don't see where the resources for such a thing should come, > but if anybody i

Re: [Fink-devel] Common problems?

2002-01-15 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, January 15, 2002, at 10:17 pm, Max Horn wrote: > At 22:03 Uhr + 15.01.2002, Finlay Dobbie wrote: > >> Ummm http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/porting/index.php > > "full detail porting guide" -> no. Kinda "developer FAQ"-ish, thou

Re: [Fink-devel] Initial 0.3.2a complete

2002-01-16 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 05:50 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: > ghx still doesn't build. As I said before, the problems you are encountering have been fixed for months now, in ghx-0.1.39-2. -- Finlay ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROT

Re: [Fink-devel] Initial 0.3.2a complete

2002-01-16 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 06:55 pm, Max Horn wrote: > At 18:21 Uhr + 16.01.2002, Finlay Dobbie wrote: >> On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 05:50 pm, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> >>> ghx still doesn't build. >> >> As I said before, the prob

Re: [Fink-devel] Initial 0.3.2a complete

2002-01-16 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 07:13 pm, Max Horn wrote: > Sorry I must have forgotten this then. > > Anyway, ghx-0.1.39-2 should be polished a bit first, I think - it is > also lacking a LIcense & DocFiles field (but maybe they are not > applicable?) There is no license. It's not public

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-16 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 09:33 pm, Max Horn wrote: > At 16:11 Uhr -0500 16.01.2002, David R. Morrison wrote: >> (Sorry for the incomplete message, I hit the wrong button!) >> >> That being said, we have not yet gotten a smooth system working for >> creating binaries on a regular basis

Re: [Fink-devel] Optional usage of Storable.pm

2002-01-17 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Thursday, January 17, 2002, at 01:17 am, Max Horn wrote: > Thanks, Kyle and Randal! I really hope that this will allow work on the > "package DB" to go on. > > I guess once the DB really works, we'll want to make storable-pm an > essential package, but at least during bootstrap, we have to

Re: [Fink-devel] Optional usage of Storable.pm

2002-01-17 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Thursday, January 17, 2002, at 01:17 am, Max Horn wrote: > I guess once the DB really works, we'll want to make storable-pm an > essential package, but at least during bootstrap, we have to go without > it. AFAIK this was the main problem holding back the DB code, wasn't > it, Finlay? Ba

Re: [Fink-devel] DMG format

2002-01-18 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Thursday, January 17, 2002, at 08:54 pm, Max Horn wrote: > The only work around for this currently is to use this trick. Or use OmniWeb, methinks. ;-) -- Finlay ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists

[Fink-devel] cacheing

2002-01-18 Thread Finlay Dobbie
I just updated finlayd-cache, I think it bootstraps now. Time to resurrect the discussion on how the semantics should work... Also, can anybody see any serious problems with it? (Sorry, I'm not being particularly articulate, but it's 12:34am :P) -- Finlay __

Re: [Fink-devel] How to represent package variants

2002-01-19 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Saturday, January 19, 2002, at 04:27 am, Alexander Strange wrote: > What do we do about apt-get? Nothing? -- Finlay ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel

Re: [Fink-devel] New package: bow

2002-01-20 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, January 20, 2002, at 09:06 AM, Ken Williams wrote: > Since it's a new package and not an update of an existing one (and I'm > a new package maintainer) I wasn't sure whether submitting it to the > tracker was enough, or whether I should post an announcement to the > list. So I did

Re: [Fink-devel] plan

2002-01-20 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, January 20, 2002, at 09:43 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: >>> * Move to a new package format - yes or no, and which. This has to be >>> carefully designed, I think. > > I vote NO. There are excellent reasons for staying with the present > format. IMHO one of the secrets of Fink's spectacu

Re: [Fink-devel] plan

2002-01-20 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, January 20, 2002, at 09:49 PM, Jeff Whitaker wrote: > Like they say, If it ain't broke ... But the point is that the current info format is broke, to a certain extent. :-P -- Finlay ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https:

Re: [Fink-devel] Replacing dpkgs

2002-01-21 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, January 20, 2002, at 11:14 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: > Also, if you consult www.openpackages.org, you will see that that > project > is developing its own format, .ops, and they hope to have conversion > tools > which will take a .ops file and turn it into a .rpm or .deb file. A

Re: [Fink-devel] Replacing dpkgs

2002-01-21 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, January 20, 2002, at 11:25 PM, Peter O'Gorman wrote: > I know it seems unlikely, but Red Hat closed my bug with a patch to > build rpm on MacOSX, with a comment like: > Since Apple is working on this port, we don't need to. > (Not an exact quote, but..) Hmm yes, I noticed Dave Zarzy

Re: [Fink-devel] undefined symboles

2002-01-21 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Monday, January 21, 2002, at 06:28 PM, Justin Hallett wrote: > I don't know where guys look these things up...or maybe it's an > experience > thing...anyhow anyone know where to find these. Look like the standard C++ library... Try setting the cc to c++ for compilation. -- Finlay

Re: [Fink-devel] pthread_kill

2002-01-24 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Thursday, January 24, 2002, at 04:34 PM, Justin Hallett wrote: > anyone know a work around for the undefined symbol _pthread_kill ?? I > have -lpthread set. I think I remember Finlay telling my that darwin > couldn't do _pthread_kill IIRC. So is there a work aroung to this? pthread_kill i

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-26 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Saturday, January 26, 2002, at 01:42 PM, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > On Wednesday, January 16, 2002, at 04:54 PM, Finlay Dobbie wrote: > >> And compare the number of Debian build servers, Debian donations, and >> just resources in general. >> > SF provides a c

Re: [Fink-devel] fink vs apt-get

2002-01-26 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Saturday, January 26, 2002, at 02:01 PM, Max Horn wrote: > No, since the debian tools require root access. Debian solves this with > the fakeroot tool, but you can't just recompile that for OS X, it has > to be rewritten. Finlay and me were looking into it a bit, not sure if > Finlay is st

Re: [Fink-devel] package validator

2002-01-27 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, January 27, 2002, at 06:10 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: > I guess the only allowed thing > which is not in the documentation is to add /LDP for linux documentation > project. I added that to the documentation a few weeks back. -- Finlay __

Re: [Fink-devel] GTK+ improvements

2002-01-31 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Thursday, January 31, 2002, at 12:18 AM, Alexander Strange wrote: > I've made a new revision of gtk+, but being the maintainer would > require me to port GTK 1.3, and I don't want to do that (i don't think > that I know enough to do it). Why would it require you to do that? GTK+ 1.3 is uns

Re: [Fink-devel] NO! Never depend on openssl if you are in main! (was: Problems with fnlib, libungif, python)

2002-02-07 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Thursday, February 7, 2002, at 06:59 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: > A small footnote on this: There has been a proposed openldap-ssl > package > sitting in the package submission tracker for a couple of weeks, if that > makes someone's work easier. Please assign it to me. I hope I'll get r

Re: [Fink-devel] RE: [Fink-beginners] Does gnumeric work ...?

2002-02-20 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Wednesday, February 20, 2002, at 09:41 AM, Jeremy Higgs wrote: > You could SSH into shell.sourceforge.net, with your SF ID and password, > and > do it from there. :) If you can SSH then why not just set CVS_RSH to ssh and use that? I'm guessing he can't ssh. -- Finlay

Re: [Fink-devel] (Long) Fwd: Design Award for Best Mac OS X Open Source Port

2002-02-22 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Friday, February 22, 2002, at 01:46 AM, Kyle Moffett wrote: > On Thursday, February 21, 2002, at 08:28 , Ben Hines wrote: >> At 7:18 PM -0500 2/21/02, Alexander Strange wrote: >>> We've got some good ports, think one of the maintainers (or even the >>> whole Fink project) could win something

Re: [Fink-devel] about corrupted binary of mozilla

2002-02-27 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Wednesday, February 27, 2002, at 07:15 PM, Chris Devers wrote: > Has anyone had any success in getting Mozilla or a Mozilla related > browser > working on Darwin with Fink? Yes, several people, including Masanori (who made the package) and me. > Coming at it from a different direction, > c

Re: [Fink-devel] GUI for Fink Available for Download

2002-03-04 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Monday, March 4, 2002, at 03:48 PM, Peter O'Gorman wrote: > Will look into it a bit more though, may be a good place to start, or > continue with Finlay's code, or whatever. I think it might be wise to wait for 10.2 and see if we get a Perl<->Obj-C bridge. Otherwise, I'm not convinced we c

Re: [Fink-devel] GUI for Fink Available for Download

2002-03-04 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Monday, March 4, 2002, at 07:15 PM, Ken Williams wrote: > On Monday, March 4, 2002, at 12:23 PM, Finlay Dobbie wrote: >> >> I think it might be wise to wait for 10.2 and see if we get a >> Perl<->Obj-C bridge. Otherwise, I'm not convinced we current

Re: [Fink-devel] GUI for Fink Available for Download

2002-03-04 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Monday, March 4, 2002, at 09:50 PM, Ken Williams wrote: > On Monday, March 4, 2002, at 03:44 PM, Finlay Dobbie wrote: >> I was thinking along the lines of writing the entire GUI in Perl, not >> really sure though since I don't have a copy of the bridge to see what >&

Re: [Fink-devel] GUI for Fink Available for Download

2002-03-05 Thread finlay . dobbie
> On the other hand, won't any future Fink GUI have to incorporate some > IPC to interact with apt-get and install the binary distribution? So > wouldn't it make sense to go ahead with whatever can be done now? (He > asked hopefully.) Since apt-get and dpkg are written in C, I think we can

Re: [Fink-devel] Creating a package

2002-03-06 Thread finlay . dobbie
> Isn't it possible to reuse all the debian/ stuff in the sources? Because > this piece of software can be configured with dialogs during the > installation. > > Since i know well the debian package maintainer, this code can be > modified for darwin if needed. Fink isn't a port of Debian to Da

Re: [Fink-devel] GNU mkdir?

2002-03-07 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Thursday, March 7, 2002, at 05:48 PM, Max Horn wrote: > 1) docbook-dtd should be "fixed" to not use a trailing slash > 2) Somebody shouild take a look at the fileutils package, and add a > workaround for this to the mkdir command (and possible rm and other > commands that may be affected).

Re: [Fink-devel] PHP, OpenOSX, etc..

2002-03-08 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Friday, March 8, 2002, at 07:13 PM, Bill Bumgarner wrote: > OpenOSX is shipping PHP 4.1.2, which fixes a number of bugs over > 4.0.6-- the current version in Fink. Your point? Oh, I guess you mean you want someone to update it. I think you just volunteered yourself, thanks! -- Finlay

[Fink-devel] passwd update

2002-03-08 Thread Finlay Dobbie
passwd has been updated, hopefully system preferences will no longer vomit all over / when you try to remove users. please could you all test, and I'll move it to stable ASAP. -- Finlay ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.s

Re: [Fink-devel] Reading Package Info...

2002-03-10 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 10, 2002, at 02:42 AM, Ben Hines wrote: > Perhaps an index/database could be implemented for the unstable and > stable trees, and only the "local" tree should be searched using the > current method? The "index" could be updated when fink is updated, or > when a "selfupdate" i

Re: [Fink-devel] glib 2.0

2002-03-13 Thread Finlay Dobbie
7;s not there yet). Mozilla is at 0.9.9 currently. That's less than one, methinks ;) -- Finlay Dobbie [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-devel

Re: [Fink-devel] FinkCommander now available by CVS at SourceForge

2002-03-21 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 02:29 PM, Steven Burr wrote: > I'd like to make sure I avoid this problem in the future, so I have a > question for the group. Once SourceForge support removes the directory > from the repository, can I safely commit in the future without first > moving build

Re: [Fink-devel] feature?

2002-03-24 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 09:44 AM, Michael Baudis wrote: > could it not be nice, to have some interactive feedback when trying to > run commands (that is, programs) provided through fink, but currently > not installed? which could be provided by shell (or perl) placeholders > instead of

Re: [Fink-devel] [ANN] My experiences with Apple

2002-03-24 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 06:18 PM, Josh Kuperman wrote: > This is very interesting to me. It certainly points out how the GPL > licensing in the OpenSource community offers that community a great > advantage. Did they ask for the tools back? No. > From my reading of your > correspondence,

Re: [Fink-devel] When will we be at 1.0 ?

2002-03-24 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 06:58 PM, Max Horn wrote: > I think we might want to define a plan as to when we will consider Fink > to be 1.0. Some ideas of my own: > > * package caching. It's just not acceptable that one has to wait 10-60 > seconds before the actual command is processed. Hmm

Re: [Fink-devel] When will we be at 1.0 ?

2002-03-24 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 24, 2002, at 07:25 PM, Max Horn wrote: > Sorry, I misexpressed myself. I was actually refering to the package > manager, not the distribution. What you say of course are requirments > for a 1.0 distro, but IMHO we are much farther away from that than from > a 1.0 PM. Oh righ

Re: [Fink-devel] system-apache?

2002-03-27 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Wednesday, March 27, 2002, at 06:44 PM, Bill Bumgarner wrote: > Is it possible / how hard / why isn't... > > ... why isn't there a system-apache?It would seem to be possible > save for the missing header files [that can be obtained from the darwin > source] > ? That, and if you have sy

Re: [Fink-devel] system-apache?

2002-03-27 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Wednesday, March 27, 2002, at 07:03 PM, Bill Bumgarner wrote: > (But i'll still look into doing a WebObjects fink package as that would > be useful... just have to figure out how to pull the source off the > local disk -- a file:/// url will hopefully work...) How about nosource and asking

Re: [Fink-devel] apache & sharing

2002-03-27 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Wednesday, March 27, 2002, at 09:15 PM, Bill Bumgarner wrote: > The fink installed apache doesn't support OS X's out of the box 'Web > Sharing' feature. This is problematic. > > It means that if one wants to use Fink to install various apache > related features, one loses a significant chu

Re: [Fink-devel] dlopen

2002-03-31 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 08:18 AM, John Clark wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >>> where does darwin hide its dlopen? I've seen it mentioned on google >>> that there are wrappers for it, but i could not find any relevent >>> information. i was working on licq

Re: [Fink-devel] twolevel fun

2002-03-31 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 07:03 AM, Chris Zubrzycki wrote: > cc -dynamiclib -undefined suppress -o .libs/libsocks.0.1.0.dylib > config_parse.lo config_scan.lo Raccept.lo Rbind.lo Rgetpeername.lo > Rgetsockname.lo Rrresvport.lo io.lo address.lo authneg.lo client.lo > clientconfig.lo clien

Re: [Fink-devel] finlayd-cache merges into HEAD

2002-03-31 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 07:09 PM, Benjamin Reed wrote: > Max Horn [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: >> I just merged Finlay's cacheing code into HEAD CVS. For me it causea >> quite a speed boost, from 10-80 secs down to 2-8 secs. Please give it >> a try, we need some testing before we can put it

Re: [Fink-devel] finlayd-cache merges into HEAD

2002-03-31 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, March 31, 2002, at 07:19 PM, Max Horn wrote: > Thanks, I somehow thought that somebody had tested this *cough* :-) > I'll look into fixing this. I did too :-/ I *swear* I fixed this. Oh, well. -- Finlay ___ Fink-devel mailing list [EM

Re: [Fink-devel] Plans for 0.4.0 and future releases

2002-04-04 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Thursday, April 4, 2002, at 01:27 PM, Max Horn wrote: >> As I understand it, >> if we were able to use fakeroot, we could utilise the SF Compile Farms, >> correct? If we were, they could be used to build the packages for the >> binary >> distro, instead of laying it all upon you, Max (and ot

Re: [Fink-devel] Plans for 0.4.0 and future releases

2002-04-05 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Friday, April 5, 2002, at 02:37 AM, Ben Hines wrote: > We do have a Fink buildserver, for those who missed Max's message - Max > is now the admin of Sourceforge OSX Compile Farm. Dual 800s. Rooted. For those of you who missed fully reading and comprehending Max's message, building the bina

Re: [Fink-devel] Plans for 0.4.0 and future releases

2002-04-13 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Saturday, April 6, 2002, at 12:43 PM, Max Horn wrote: > I don't think it's that silly. Think about it. There has been at least > one security hole in OS X (in NetInfo) in the past that could only be > exploited by local users to gain root. On my box, that's only me, so > almost no risk. On

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: [ fink-Package Submissions-543612 ] FinkCommander package

2002-04-14 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, April 14, 2002, at 10:58 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: > I don't know how to solve the problem of users moving a Foo.app around, > but I have an idea about it (which you are welcome to shoot holes in). couldn't we just store an alias reference somewhere? -- Finlay ___

Re: [Fink-devel] uids in passwd package

2002-04-15 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 04:33 PM, Kilian Koepsell wrote: > is there a certain procedure for assignin uids for fink-specific > users? or can i just pick an unused uid in the range 250-299 and add > it to the passwd package? By the way, on a semi-related note, in a future release of OS X, I

Re: [Fink-devel] cc errors

2002-04-15 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 05:43 PM, Justin Hallett wrote: > > > Missing C++ runtime support for CC (/usr/bin/CC). HFS+ is case insensitive, so /usr/bin/CC is actually cc, whereas on some systems I think it's the C++ compiler frontend type thing. Perhaps you should modify the Makefiles or

Re: [Fink-devel] uids in passwd package

2002-04-15 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Monday, April 15, 2002, at 09:51 PM, Max Horn wrote: >> someone would have to keep track of the uids in use, of course. > > Yup. I thought about this, too. I'd suggest something to way Daemonic > stuff is handled. But how do we keep track of user ids? -- Finlay

Re: [Fink-devel] Apache 2.0.35

2002-04-16 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 12:56 AM, Ken Williams wrote: > On Wednesday, April 17, 2002, at 08:02 AM, Kyle Moffett wrote: >> I would like to try to help package Apache 2.0 in Fink after I get it >> running on my own machine, overwriting Apple's version 1.3. > > The other day I asked about

Re: [Fink-devel] NetInfo Trashing Machines

2002-04-18 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Thursday, April 18, 2002, at 04:09 PM, Gary Kerbaugh wrote: > Some users have used NetInfo to delete these users and NetInfo > replies with a dialog asking if the user would like to have ownership > of the > deleted user's files transferred to him. The user thinks, "What harm > could > that

Re: [Fink-devel] NetInfo Trashing Machines

2002-04-18 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Thursday, April 18, 2002, at 11:57 PM, Gary Kerbaugh wrote: > However, I feel that the > greatest crime is the fact that NetInfo talks about changing ownership > of > files owned by the deleted extra user while, in fact, it changes > ownership > of EVERY file on the computer! NetInfo has n

Re: [Fink-devel] fwd: lack of prebinding in fink installed libraries

2002-04-19 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Friday, April 19, 2002, at 06:27 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: > As far as I know, no Fink packages currently enable prebinding of any of > their libraries. I don't understand the prebinding system very > precisely, > but I suspect that we could implement this in Fink but if we did so we > w

[Fink-devel] April 2002 Developer Tools OUT

2002-04-20 Thread Finlay Dobbie
The April 2002 Developer Tools is out (although it's classed as a "public beta" release). Currently it's available only if you have an ADC Seed Key, but it should become available to everybody else over the coming week or so. Anyway, it includes a toolchain based on gcc3.1, so I expect some Fi

Re: [Fink-devel] April 2002 Developer Tools OUT

2002-04-20 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Saturday, April 20, 2002, at 10:06 PM, Ben Hines wrote: > According to the release notes, the default compiler is still 2.95.2. > In PB you have to set USEGCC3 variable to use gcc3. > > More apropos to fink, I have the new tools installed, and cc --version > returns 2.95.2. > > HOWEVER, we

Re: [Fink-devel] Hmm. I wonder what this means?

2002-04-24 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 03:17 AM, Kyle Moffett wrote: > I wonder if Apple is using/planning to use dpkg? Apple uses dpkg in its (convoluted, odd, evil, etc) Darwin build system. Only for the Darwin build system mind you, they use something even less sane for their OS X build system AF

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: Encouragement and Constructive Criticism

2002-05-18 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Sunday, May 19, 2002, at 01:07 AM, Mark Rahner wrote: >> 2) The tool chain for maintaining a bindist must be updated to support >> bindist. It must be improved to allow easy use, and be made "fool >> proof" (because everybody, that includes me, makes mistakes and it's >> not so nice if tha

Re: [Fink-devel] system-passwd?

2002-05-20 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Monday, May 20, 2002, at 03:56 PM, David R. Morrison wrote: > So do we need a system-passwd package, which "Provides: passwd", and > which > simply tells that user that they better have those users/groups > installed > if they are going to install the appropriate fink pkgs? Well no, what w

Re: [Fink-devel] compile errors for tn5250

2002-05-22 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, May 21, 2002, at 10:28 PM, AdvertisingDept wrote: > Here's another obvious question: > #man make > replies there is no entry make is actually a symlink to gmake, AKA GNU make (there's another make implementation, called bsdmake, which is very different). Try man gmake instead.

Re: [Fink-devel] emacs21 in fink (using jaguar and April 2002 devtools)

2002-05-28 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Tuesday, May 28, 2002, at 10:06 PM, Christian Swinehart wrote: > On Tuesday, May 28, 2002, at 04:59 PM, Alexander Strange wrote: >> On Tuesday, May 28, 2002, at 03:05 PM, Christian Swinehart wrote: >>> I'm looking into it, but if anybody knows why it would link to >>> libSystem instead, I'd

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