Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-19 Thread Ulanowicz, Robert
Dear Loet, Shannon "information" is indeed counter-intuitive, and we have John von Neumann's joke to thank for that confusion.Shannon asked von Nuemann what to name his formula. von Neumann told him to name it "entropy", because his metric is "formally identical to von Boltzmann's probabilistic me

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2017-11-19 Thread Francesco Rizzo
gt; Gordana > > > > *From: *Fis on behalf of Francesco Rizzo < > 13francesco.ri...@gmail.com> > *Date: *Sunday, 19 November 2017 at 07:56 > *To: *"y...@pku.edu.cn" > *Cc: *FIS Group > *Subject: *Re: [Fis] some notes > > > > > > > > De

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2017-11-19 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
francesco.ri...@gmail.com>> Date: Sunday, 19 November 2017 at 07:56 To: "y...@pku.edu.cn<mailto:y...@pku.edu.cn>" mailto:y...@pku.edu.cn>> Cc: FIS Group mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>> Subject: Re: [Fis] some notes Dear colleagues, existence implies articulate knowledge

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2017-11-18 Thread Francesco Rizzo
on and communication of substrate. The > study about the mode of communication and processing of information is the > important aspect of dynamical research of information science. > > > > Best wishes, > > Xueshan > > > > *From:* fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-18 Thread Xueshan Yan
on and processing of information is the important aspect of dynamical research of information science. Best wishes, Xueshan From: fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Loet Leydesdorff Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 4:19 PM To: Terrence W. DEA

Re: [Fis] some notes: Precise Qualitative Terms

2017-11-18 Thread Mark Johnson
al account and what I think is being attempted here. Best wishes, Mark -Original Message- From: "Joseph Brenner" Sent: ‎18/‎11/‎2017 14:28 To: "Terrence W. DEACON" ; "fis" Subject: Re: [Fis] some notes: Precise Qualitative Terms  Dear All, Terry'

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2017-11-18 Thread Joseph Brenner
nce W. DEACON To: fis Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:38 AM Subject: Re: [Fis] some notes If the definition of science requires quantification and mathematical representation then most of biology won't qualify, including molecular and cellular biology, physiology, psych

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2017-11-18 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
t; To: "fis" Cc: "Pedro C. Marijuan" ; "Loet Leydesdorff" Sent: 11/17/2017 6:34:18 PM Subject: Re: [Fis] some notes On communication: "Communication" needs to be more carefully distinguished from mere transfer of physical differences from location to locati

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2017-11-17 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
If the definition of science requires quantification and mathematical representation then most of biology won't qualify, including molecular and cellular biology, physiology, psychology, and neuroscience. Physics envy has long ago been abandoned by most working scientists in these fields. This is n

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-17 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
On communication: "Communication" needs to be more carefully distinguished from mere transfer of physical differences from location to location and time to time. Indeed, any physical transfer of physical differences in this respect can be utilized to communicate, and all communication requires thi

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2017-11-17 Thread Sungchul Ji
" (see Steps f, g and h); the former is dyadic and the latter triadic. All the best. Sung From: Fis on behalf of Loet Leydesdorff Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 8:06 AM To: Pedro C. Marijuan; fis Subject: Re: [Fis] some notes Dear Pedro and colle

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2017-11-17 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Pedro and colleagues, 2. Eigenvectors of communication. Taking the motif from Loet, and continuing with the above, could we say that the life cycle itself establishes the eigenvectors of communication? It is intriguing that maintenance, persistence, self-propagation are the essential moti

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2017-11-13 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Pedro -- Regarding: could we say that the life cycle itself establishes the eigenvectors of communication? It is intriguing that maintenance, persistence, self-propagation are the essential motives of communication for whatever life entities (from bacteria to ourselves). With the complexity increa