[Fis] Information - Meaning - Knowledge

2008-09-18 Thread Christophe Menant
Folks, Answering to Joseph, I relate meaning to information by a systemic approach based on constraint satisfaction that allows an evolutionary/bottom-up usage (http://cogprints.org/6014/). So with this, a meaning exists relatively to a system submitted to a constraint. A meaning (a meaningfu

[Fis] information-meaning-knowledge

2008-09-18 Thread Stanley Salthe
Folks -- Replying to Joseph, I use simultaneously three definitions of 'information'. Thus: a reduction in uncertainty / a constraint on entropy production / a difference that makes a difference With these, meaning is inherent in any constraint as a possibility, and any constraint could make

Re: [Fis] Neuroscience of art

2008-09-18 Thread John Collier
At 05:30 PM 2008/09/18, Sonu Bhaskar wrote: Dear FIS Colleagues, The cognizance between the art and cognitive neuroscience has been relatively ignored in the scientific fraternity. The recent proposition regarding the ten laws of art, as Dr. V. S. Ramachandran puts it, has ignited a new debate am

Re: [Fis] Neuroscience of art

2008-09-18 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Sonu, Thank you very much for your most interesting new thread. For some reason, I do not have your exchange with Pedro on "Lantham's proposal". Could you clarify? As you know, the biologist E. O. Wilson, in his work on consilience, has addressed the convergence of natural and human scienc

[Fis] Neuroscience of art

2008-09-18 Thread Sonu Bhaskar
Dear FIS Colleagues, The cognizance between the art and cognitive neuroscience has been relatively ignored in the scientific fraternity. The recent proposition regarding the* ten laws of art*, as Dr. V. S. Ramachandran puts it, has ignited a new debate among the philosophers and the neuroscientist

Re: [Fis] Information - Meaning - Knowledge

2008-09-18 Thread Gyorgy Darvas
Joseph, I think both have of common social value, and in this sense they are not subjective (psychological), rather either personal (cf. Polanyi) or objective, or both. I see the difference between knowledge and meaning in their reference: knowledge refers to a wider or more general information

Re: [Fis] Information - Meaning - Knowledge

2008-09-18 Thread John Collier
At 10:35 AM 9/18/2008, Joseph Brenner wrote: >Dear Friends, > >You may have discussed this question before I joined the group, and >I am not proposing it as a discussion topic. I would just like to >know which of the two following sequences is currently generally >preferred or accepted, and if t

[Fis] Information - Meaning - Knowledge

2008-09-18 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Friends, You may have discussed this question before I joined the group, and I am not proposing it as a discussion topic. I would just like to know which of the two following sequences is currently generally preferred or accepted, and if the answer is important: a) knowledge is organized