At 02:12 PM 2009/11/10, Pedro C. Marijuan wrote:
Dear FIS colleagues,
The comments, days ago, by John H on information states were
intriguing. In my view, the differences he addresses between physical
states and informational states could be compacted as the primacy
of
the intrinsic regarding
Dear Colleagues,
John's opening of a new topic gives the chance of commenting both on his and on
my Assymetry of Information, since both talk about symmetry and
symmetry-breaking. John asks how one can make a principled coupling between
intrinsic and extrinsic informational entities. I will
While not suggesting a discussion on this, I note that
John says -- information and the interpretation of information are different
from
each other
I think this is not as clear cut as that. Beginning all the way back to von
Uexkull's
Theoretical Biology, the constructivist perspective takes
The inventor of the concept of Information as Asymmetry is
Michael Leyton in his enormous book 640 pages
Symmetry,Causality, Mind (MIT Press, 1992).
Furthermore: Leyton invented the concept of the
causal basis of information.
In addition, Leyton's book A Generative Theory of Shape
in Springer
At 05:33 PM 2009/11/14, you wrote:
While not suggesting a discussion on this, I note that
John says -- information and the interpretation of information are
different from
each other
I think this is not as clear cut as that. Beginning all the way
back to von Uexkull's
Theoretical Biology, the
Thanks. I still maintain my student carried this idea much further then
anyone before.
As I said before, priority in such issues issues is very hard to
establish. I think that Michael Scriven was well ahead on these ideas. He
is now known as Tal Scriven. His ideas date much earlier than 1992, to
