Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-15 Thread John Collier
; Sent: Tuesday, 15 November 2016 5:21 PM > To: FIS Webinar > Subject: Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime? > > > On 13 Nov 2016, at 10:48, Andrei Khrennikov wrote: > > > Dear all, > > I make the last remark about "physical information".

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-15 Thread Bruno Marchal
s [fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] on behalf of John Collier [colli...@ukzn.ac.za ] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:19 PM To: l...@leydesdorff.net; 'Alex Hankey'; 'FIS Webinar' Subject: Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime? More on Quantum information and emergent spa

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-13 Thread Karl Javorszky
ambridge.org/cr/academic/subjects/physics/ > econophysics-and-financial-physics/quantum-social-science > http://www.springer.com/us/book/9783642051005 > > ____ > From: Fis [fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] on behalf of John Collier [ > colli...@ukzn.

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-13 Thread Andrei Khrennikov
42051005 From: Fis [fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] on behalf of John Collier [colli...@ukzn.ac.za] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 9:19 PM To: l...@leydesdorff.net; 'Alex Hankey'; 'FIS Webinar' Subject: Re: [Fis] Is quantum information

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-12 Thread John Collier
s-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Loet Leydesdorff Sent: Saturday, 12 November 2016 9:29 PM To: 'Alex Hankey' ; 'FIS Webinar' Subject: Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime? Dear Alex and colleagues, Thank you for the reference; but my argument was abou

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-12 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
l=en From: Alex Hankey [mailto:alexhan...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, November 12, 2016 8:07 PM To: Loet Leydesdorff; FIS Webinar Subject: Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime? Dear Loet and Fis Colleagues, Are you aware of Roy Frieden's 'Physics from Fisher

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-12 Thread Alex Hankey
Dear Loet and Fis Colleagues, Are you aware of Roy Frieden's 'Physics from Fisher Information'. His book was published in the 1990s. I consider it a very powerful statement. Ultimately everything we can detect at both macroscopic and microscopic levels depends on information production from a qua

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-12 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Marcus, When considering things in terms of "functional significance" one must confront the need to address "meaning" in terms of both the living and the physical . . . and their necessarily entangled nature. “Meaning” is first a linguistic construct; its construction requires inter

[Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-12 Thread Marcus Abundis
Further to John's original note . . . and then to Pedro's further note > It would neatly apply to the living but also to the physical < This is, of course, a recurring issue for FIS – the matter of meaning . . . or even, what is "information?" When it comes to defining "meaning" (or information) I

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-05 Thread Rafael Capurro
Dear Mark and all, I agree with your criticisms on Floridi. My own look like this: In his paperA defense of information structural realism (Synthese 2009, Vol. 61, No. 2, pp. 219-253) Floridi argues that digita

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-05 Thread Mark Johnson
Dear Moises and all, Floridi has an excellent chapter in his "philosophy of information" called "Against digital ontology". It's worth quoting the two fundamental questions he asks about digital ontology: "a. whether the physical universe might be adequately modelled digitally and computationally

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-05 Thread Moisés André Nisenbaum
Dear FISers. I was very excited with the John’s first message informing that a group of scientists is discussing again the role of Information in Physics. The high impact on FIS list of John’s post (13 replies from different persons in 2 days) shows that it is yet an open discussion. Thank you a

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-04 Thread PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ
8:00) Para: Gyorgy Darvas , John Collier , fis Asunto: Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime? Dear all, I want to comment so called information approach to physics, by speaking with hundreds of leading experts in quantum foundations, I found that nobody can define rigo

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-04 Thread Karl Javorszky
> > Thank you and best wishes, > > Joseph > > > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Rafael Capurro > *To:* Bob Logan ; Andrei Khrennikov > ; Gyorgy Darvas ; John Collier > ; fis > *Sent:* Friday, November 04, 2016 3:47 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Fis

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-04 Thread Joseph Brenner
To: Bob Logan ; Andrei Khrennikov ; Gyorgy Darvas ; John Collier ; fis Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime? Andrei, maybe the concept of message as already used by Shannon and Weaver in specific engineering contexts (this m

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-04 Thread Christophe
kov; Gyorgy Darvas; John Collier; fis Objet : Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime? Hello Andrei - I am with you - sharing you sentiment. Information only pertains to living organisms and entails some signals that help them make a choice. A black hole makes no choices - it is rule

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-04 Thread Karl Javorszky
.org/cr/academic/subjects/physics/econop > hysics-and-financial-physics/quantum-social-science > http://www.springer.com/us/book/9783642051005 > > > From: Fis [fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] on behalf of Gyorgy Darvas [ > darv...@iif.hu] > Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-04 Thread Rafael Capurro
s [fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] on behalf of Gyorgy Darvas [darv...@iif.hu] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:23 PM To: John Collier; fis Subject: Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime? John: The article describes very really the conflicting attitudes. Interesting to see t

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-04 Thread Bob Logan
ysics-and-financial-physics/quantum-social-science http://www.springer.com/us/book/9783642051005 From: Fis [fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] on behalf of Gyorgy Darvas [darv...@iif.hu] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:23 PM To: John Collier; fis Subject: Re: [Fi

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-04 Thread Michel Godron
-and-financial-physics/quantum-social-science http://www.springer.com/us/book/9783642051005 From: Fis [fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] on behalf of Gyorgy Darvas [darv...@iif.hu] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:23 PM To: John Collier; fis Subject: Re: [Fis] Is quan

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-04 Thread Andrei Khrennikov
ttp://www.springer.com/us/book/9783642051005 From: Fis [fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] on behalf of Gyorgy Darvas [darv...@iif.hu] Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2016 10:23 PM To: John Collier; fis Subject: Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime? Jo

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-03 Thread Kevin Clark
Hello John and other FISers, Thank you for the link. It's disappointing that the SA article fails to also describe ground-breaking work by Wheeler and Bekenstein on the subject. Best regards, Kevin Clark California NanoSystems InstituteUniversity of California Los AngelesLos Angeles, CA 90095, U

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-03 Thread Gyorgy Darvas
John: The article describes very really the conflicting attitudes. Interesting to see the diverse arguments together. I agree, some think so, some do not. I do the latter, but this does not make any matter. Gyuri On 2016.11.03. 19:52, John Collier wrote: Apparently some physicists think so.

[Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-03 Thread John Collier
Apparently some physicists think so. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/tangled-up-in-spacetime/?WT.mc_id=SA_WR_20161102 John Collier Emeritus Professor and Senior Research Associate Philosophy, University of KwaZulu-Natal http://web.ncf.ca/collier ___