Re: [Fis] FW: Fw: Definition of Knowledge?Chrysippus's dog

2009-10-07 Thread John Collier
I would second that. There are some relevant papers on my home page: http://www.ukzn.ac.za/undphil/collier/papers/InformationCausationComputation.pdf http://logica.ugent.be/philosophica/fulltexts/75-4.pdf http://www.ukzn.ac.za/undphil/collier/papers/Information%20in%20Biological%20Systems.pdf John

Re: [Fis] FW: Fw: Definition of Knowledge?Chrysippus's dog

2009-10-07 Thread Jacob Lee
Why not situation theory, or Barwise and Seligman's channel theory? Jacob john.holg...@ozemail.com.au wrote: > Stanley, Christophe > > > > IMO we need to develop a comprehensive Grammar of Information which > embraces not only semantics and syntax but also modality, case, aspect > , tense etc a

Re: [Fis] FW: Fw: Definition of Knowledge?

2009-10-07 Thread ssalthe
Loet, Karl, Steven -- > S: The difference between us and animals is basically language. > S: Why not 'check out' 'Biosemiotics'? > > STAN Dear Stan, I don't understand the "bio" in this. If we distinguish between two systems of reference for knowledge -- discursive knowledge to be a

Re: [Fis] FW: Fw: Definition of Knowledge?Chrysippus's dog

2009-10-07 Thread john.holg...@ozemail.com.au
Stanley, Christophe I agree natural language probably separates hominids from other primates etc. But what about 'information'? And inferencing? Remember 'Chrysippus's dog' who infers to the best explanation (abduction) when on reaching a junction of three paths sniffs two for the scent of his

Re: [Fis] FW: Fw: Definition of Knowledge?

2009-10-07 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith
Dear Stan. Loet, List ... It is simply incorrect to assume that language distinguishes our species. Many species make use of language and, within the limits of physiology, construct marks to communicate persistently with other members of their species. It is the opposable thumb and other asp

Re: [Fis] FW: Fw: Definition of Knowledge?

2009-10-07 Thread karl javorszky
The key word is CONTRASTING. Whatever it is we discuss, we contrast it to that we do not discuss. Therein lies a great danger and opportunity. Contrasting that what is a part of our knowledge with that which we do not know we can get used to the idea of foreground and background. We utilise trhe fo

Re: [Fis] FW: Fw: Definition of Knowledge?

2009-10-06 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
> S: The difference between us and animals is basically language. > S: Why not 'check out' 'Biosemiotics'? > > STAN Dear Stan, I don't understand the "bio" in this. If we distinguish between two systems of reference for knowledge -- discursive knowledge to be attributed to interhuma

Re: [Fis] FW: Fw: Definition of Knowledge?

2009-10-06 Thread ssalthe
Christophe -- Dear FIS colleagues, Knowledge is a wide and interesting subject as applied to us humans. But what about knowledge in the world of animals ? What about an evolutionary approach to knowledge that takes into account simpler forms of knowledge management as existing in animals ?