Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-19 Thread Ulanowicz, Robert
Dear Loet, Shannon "information" is indeed counter-intuitive, and we have John von Neumann's joke to thank for that confusion.Shannon asked von Nuemann what to name his formula. von Neumann told him to name it "entropy", because his metric is "formally identical to von Boltzmann's probabilistic

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-19 Thread Francesco Rizzo
a > > > > *From: *Fis <fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es> on behalf of Francesco Rizzo < > 13francesco.ri...@gmail.com> > *Date: *Sunday, 19 November 2017 at 07:56 > *To: *"y...@pku.edu.cn" <y...@pku.edu.cn> > *Cc: *FIS Group <fis@listas.unizar.es> > *S

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-19 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
ri...@gmail.com<mailto:13francesco.ri...@gmail.com>> Date: Sunday, 19 November 2017 at 07:56 To: "y...@pku.edu.cn<mailto:y...@pku.edu.cn>" <y...@pku.edu.cn<mailto:y...@pku.edu.cn>> Cc: FIS Group <fis@listas.unizar.es<mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>> Sub

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-18 Thread Francesco Rizzo
out the mode of communication and processing of information is the > important aspect of dynamical research of information science. > > > > Best wishes, > > Xueshan > > > > *From:* fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] >

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-18 Thread Xueshan Yan
lt;dea...@berkeley.edu>; fis <fis@listas.unizar.es> Subject: Re: [Fis] some notes Dear Terry and colleagues, I agree that one should not confuse communication with the substance of communication (e.g., life in bio-semiotics). It seems useful to me to distinguish between several concepts

Re: [Fis] some notes: Precise Qualitative Terms

2017-11-18 Thread Joseph Brenner
. DEACON To: fis Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2017 5:38 AM Subject: Re: [Fis] some notes If the definition of science requires quantification and mathematical representation then most of biology won't qualify, including molecular and cellular biology, physiology, psychology

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-18 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
erkeley.edu> To: "fis" <fis@listas.unizar.es> Cc: "Pedro C. Marijuan" <pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>; "Loet Leydesdorff" <l...@leydesdorff.net> Sent: 11/17/2017 6:34:18 PM Subject: Re: [Fis] some notes On communication: "Communication&q

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-17 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
On communication: "Communication" needs to be more carefully distinguished from mere transfer of physical differences from location to location and time to time. Indeed, any physical transfer of physical differences in this respect can be utilized to communicate, and all communication requires

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-17 Thread Sungchul Ji
tion" (see Steps f, g and h); the former is dyadic and the latter triadic. All the best. Sung From: Fis <fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es> on behalf of Loet Leydesdorff <l...@leydesdorff.net> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2017 8:06 AM To: Pedro C. Marij

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-17 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Pedro and colleagues, 2. Eigenvectors of communication. Taking the motif from Loet, and continuing with the above, could we say that the life cycle itself establishes the eigenvectors of communication? It is intriguing that maintenance, persistence, self-propagation are the essential

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-13 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Pedro -- Regarding: could we say that the life cycle itself establishes the eigenvectors of communication? It is intriguing that maintenance, persistence, self-propagation are the essential motives of communication for whatever life entities (from bacteria to ourselves). With the complexity