Re: [Flashcoders] Advanced Rollover Physics/Math...

2009-02-12 Thread Muzak 

and every element needs to know where the mouse cursor is and to know in wich 
direction to move


No they don't, a parent class should take care of all of that.
The elements themselves should not be aware of any of this and should be told (by the parent class) when and how to 
resize/animate/etc..


regards,
Muzak

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From: "Sander Schuurman" 

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Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 5:24 PM
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Advanced Rollover Physics/Math...



Do you know kinda where to start... I'm trying to figure out how I would 
program the awareness of the elements.

There must be some kind of idle position, and every element needs to know where the mouse cursor is and to know in wich direction 
to move, and know how big it needs to be according to the mouseposition, and how much space there is inside his 'zone', etc. etc.


pfoe



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Re: [Flashcoders] Advanced Rollover Physics/Math...

2009-02-12 Thread Todd Kerpelman 
A physics engine might be tough to use in this case, since most of the ones
I've seen tend to deal with rigid bodies. Getting a shape to "squeeze" into
a smaller space isn't something they're usually capable of doing.

As somebody who is particularly guilty of the "Spend five hours trying to
find a clever solution to something I could have brute-forced in one"
syndrome, I feel obligated to ask if you considered brute-forcing the
problem. (Basically, figuring out the positions and sizes of each of the
elements when any one of them is rolled over and keeping that in a giant
array.) It's not a reusable solution, it doesn't scale well, and it won't
win you the awe and respect of your colleagues, but it might work for a
one-off project...

--T


On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:08 AM, Mattheis, Erik (MIN - WSW) <
ematth...@webershandwick.com> wrote:

> Thinking of the position of imaginary vertical and horizontal lines
> between the elements may be a better approach.
>
> --
> Erik Mattheis
> Senior Interactive Developer
> Weber Shandwick Digital Minneapolis
>
> ph: 952 346 6610 cell: 612 377 2272
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Sander
> Schuurman
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:25 AM
> To: Flash Coders List
> Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Advanced Rollover Physics/Math...
>
> Do you know kinda where to start... I'm trying to figure out how I would
> program the awareness of the elements.
>
> There must be some kind of idle position, and every element needs to
> know where the mouse cursor is and to know in wich direction to move,
> and know how big it needs to be according to the mouseposition, and how
> much space there is inside his 'zone', etc. etc.
>
> pfoe
>
> -Original Message-
> From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
> [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Steve
> Mathews
> Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 16:50
> To: Flash Coders List
> Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Advanced Rollover Physics/Math...
>
> You could probably pull this off with a physics engine. You could
> probably
> do it without also as a entire engine could be overkill.
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Sander Schuurman <
> sander.schuur...@oswaldandruby.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi cool list...
> >
> > I'm trying to create a subtle/smooth rollover animation of elements
> that
> > react (scale) to the mouse position, and are aware of each other, so
> they
> > move out of the way for each other instead of overlapping.
> >
> > I came across this subject a couple of times on the internet, but I
> can't
> > find it with google anymore.
> >
> > The following image explains the simple subject:
> > http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7434/testuu7.gif
> >
> > The following image explains more what I want design-wise:
> > http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5407/test2ec9.gif
> >
> > Somebody who can point me in the right direction?
> >
> > Can I do this with a physics-engine? Without gravity, but with the
> > awareness of the other elements?
> >
> > How would you do it?
> >
> > Thanks!
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Re: [Flashcoders] orkut - Invitation to join from Omar Fouad

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RE: [Flashcoders] Advanced Rollover Physics/Math...

2009-02-12 Thread Mattheis, Erik (MIN - WSW) 
Thinking of the position of imaginary vertical and horizontal lines
between the elements may be a better approach.

--
Erik Mattheis
Senior Interactive Developer
Weber Shandwick Digital Minneapolis

ph: 952 346 6610 cell: 612 377 2272


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From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Sander
Schuurman
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 10:25 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Advanced Rollover Physics/Math...

Do you know kinda where to start... I'm trying to figure out how I would
program the awareness of the elements.

There must be some kind of idle position, and every element needs to
know where the mouse cursor is and to know in wich direction to move,
and know how big it needs to be according to the mouseposition, and how
much space there is inside his 'zone', etc. etc.

pfoe

-Original Message-
From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Steve
Mathews
Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 16:50
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Advanced Rollover Physics/Math...

You could probably pull this off with a physics engine. You could
probably
do it without also as a entire engine could be overkill.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Sander Schuurman <
sander.schuur...@oswaldandruby.com> wrote:

> Hi cool list...
>
> I'm trying to create a subtle/smooth rollover animation of elements
that
> react (scale) to the mouse position, and are aware of each other, so
they
> move out of the way for each other instead of overlapping.
>
> I came across this subject a couple of times on the internet, but I
can't
> find it with google anymore.
>
> The following image explains the simple subject:
> http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7434/testuu7.gif
>
> The following image explains more what I want design-wise:
> http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5407/test2ec9.gif
>
> Somebody who can point me in the right direction?
>
> Can I do this with a physics-engine? Without gravity, but with the
> awareness of the other elements?
>
> How would you do it?
>
> Thanks!
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RE: [Flashcoders] Advanced Rollover Physics/Math...

2009-02-12 Thread Sander Schuurman 
Do you know kinda where to start... I'm trying to figure out how I would 
program the awareness of the elements.

There must be some kind of idle position, and every element needs to know where 
the mouse cursor is and to know in wich direction to move, and know how big it 
needs to be according to the mouseposition, and how much space there is inside 
his 'zone', etc. etc.

pfoe

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From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com 
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Steve Mathews
Sent: Thursday, 12 February 2009 16:50
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Advanced Rollover Physics/Math...

You could probably pull this off with a physics engine. You could probably
do it without also as a entire engine could be overkill.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Sander Schuurman <
sander.schuur...@oswaldandruby.com> wrote:

> Hi cool list...
>
> I'm trying to create a subtle/smooth rollover animation of elements that
> react (scale) to the mouse position, and are aware of each other, so they
> move out of the way for each other instead of overlapping.
>
> I came across this subject a couple of times on the internet, but I can't
> find it with google anymore.
>
> The following image explains the simple subject:
> http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7434/testuu7.gif
>
> The following image explains more what I want design-wise:
> http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5407/test2ec9.gif
>
> Somebody who can point me in the right direction?
>
> Can I do this with a physics-engine? Without gravity, but with the
> awareness of the other elements?
>
> How would you do it?
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [Flashcoders] Advanced Rollover Physics/Math...

2009-02-12 Thread Steve Mathews 
You could probably pull this off with a physics engine. You could probably
do it without also as a entire engine could be overkill.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:03 AM, Sander Schuurman <
sander.schuur...@oswaldandruby.com> wrote:

> Hi cool list...
>
> I'm trying to create a subtle/smooth rollover animation of elements that
> react (scale) to the mouse position, and are aware of each other, so they
> move out of the way for each other instead of overlapping.
>
> I came across this subject a couple of times on the internet, but I can't
> find it with google anymore.
>
> The following image explains the simple subject:
> http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7434/testuu7.gif
>
> The following image explains more what I want design-wise:
> http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5407/test2ec9.gif
>
> Somebody who can point me in the right direction?
>
> Can I do this with a physics-engine? Without gravity, but with the
> awareness of the other elements?
>
> How would you do it?
>
> Thanks!
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Re: [Flashcoders] Advanced Rollover Physics/Math...

2009-02-12 Thread Mark Winterhalder 
Hah, that reminds of of the classic Yugop site, back during Flash 4
days -- the one with the rotating cube preloader, the "older"
generation among us might remember...

What you're actually trying to do is a bit different, though. When you
think about it, it's not unlike a tree-map, where you add weight to
the node the mouse is over, and subtract from the others.



HTH,
Mark



On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Sander Schuurman
 wrote:
> Hi cool list...
>
> I'm trying to create a subtle/smooth rollover animation of elements that 
> react (scale) to the mouse position, and are aware of each other, so they 
> move out of the way for each other instead of overlapping.
>
> I came across this subject a couple of times on the internet, but I can't 
> find it with google anymore.
>
> The following image explains the simple subject:
> http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7434/testuu7.gif
>
> The following image explains more what I want design-wise:
> http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5407/test2ec9.gif
>
> Somebody who can point me in the right direction?
>
> Can I do this with a physics-engine? Without gravity, but with the awareness 
> of the other elements?
>
> How would you do it?
>
> Thanks!
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[Flashcoders] Advanced Rollover Physics/Math...

2009-02-12 Thread Sander Schuurman 
Hi cool list...

I'm trying to create a subtle/smooth rollover animation of elements that react 
(scale) to the mouse position, and are aware of each other, so they move out of 
the way for each other instead of overlapping.

I came across this subject a couple of times on the internet, but I can't find 
it with google anymore.

The following image explains the simple subject:
http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/7434/testuu7.gif

The following image explains more what I want design-wise:
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/5407/test2ec9.gif

Somebody who can point me in the right direction?

Can I do this with a physics-engine? Without gravity, but with the awareness of 
the other elements?

How would you do it?

Thanks!
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