Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread tom rhodes
google bots follow links. like i said before look at the swfaddress SEO stuff to get started. as long as what google finds at yoursite.com/section/is the same content you deliver in your flash when you go directly to yoursite.com/section/ then there is no foul play going on. it's not doubling up e

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Paul Andrews
On 20/04/2010 22:51, Dave Watts wrote: In the case that Flash is driven by dynamic content dependent on user interaction, I don't see how such a criteria of "similar content" can reasonably be applied. Most web applications that I work on, that have HTML interfaces, also have dynamic conte

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Dave Watts
> In the case that Flash is driven by dynamic content dependent on user > interaction, I don't see how such a criteria of "similar content" can > reasonably be applied. Most web applications that I work on, that have HTML interfaces, also have dynamic content. Presumably, you'd have the same dynam

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Paul Andrews
On 20/04/2010 21:37, Dave Watts wrote: Isn't that kind of thing considered "unfair" play and penalized by search engines if discovered? It depends on how it's done, exactly. If you have very similar content within Flash and within the alternative HTML you serve, it's not considered "cloaki

[Flashcoders] custom seekBar

2010-04-20 Thread Mattheis, Erik (MIN - WSW)
Has anybody made the seekBar UI component work when a FLVPlayback goes to full screen mode? Google comes up with a lot of people having the problems, but have not found a solution that works for me. This is the precise problem I'm having: http://www.actionscript.org/forums/showthread.php3?p=706

RE: [Flashcoders] flash X html5

2010-04-20 Thread Merrill, Jason
Wired magazine says Flash will be viable for a long time, isn't going away anytime soon. They discuss HTML5/Apple/Silverlight and more: http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/04/flash-faces-down-threats-on-adobes-big- day/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2F software%2Fcoola

Re: [Flashcoders] flash X html5

2010-04-20 Thread Matt Perkins
I think it depends on what industry you're in, but generally a developer should know how to do a lot of things and not just specialize in one thing. If you only know Flash, and it goes away then you're out of luck. Rather you show know Flash, Javascript, HTML, CSS, etc. You can specialize in F

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Dave Watts
> Isn't that kind of thing considered "unfair" play and penalized by search > engines if discovered? It depends on how it's done, exactly. If you have very similar content within Flash and within the alternative HTML you serve, it's not considered "cloaking": http://www.cnet.com/8301-13530_1-9748

[Flashcoders] flash X html5

2010-04-20 Thread m...@rcello
Hi Folks! This is my first message in this forum Im a Brazillian Flash developer and i'd like to ask you about the future of Flash platform. Few times ago I became a little worried about the increasing of css/xhtml web sites instead of flash websites. Actually I can sae many sites that before

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread Paul Andrews
On 20/04/2010 20:06, jonathan howe wrote: Paul, That's an interesting distinction. Does the agreement say you can't even test locally those kind of prototypes? I thought the blocking was just for distribution through the store. -jonathan As I understand it the new developer agreement makes

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread Jer Brand
The "Testing" install on a provisioned device is also time limited. ( I bring this up because my touch just informed me I had 30 days before my Client's app provision expired ). Jer On 20/04/2010 15:31, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: sure but you can compile to your own handset

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread jonathan howe
Paul, That's an interesting distinction. Does the agreement say you can't even test locally those kind of prototypes? I thought the blocking was just for distribution through the store. -jonathan On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:57 AM, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) < alla...@gmail.com> wro

Re: [Flashcoders] Hello Everyone!!

2010-04-20 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
^ this On 20 April 2010 18:12, Henrik Andersson wrote: > Ryan P wrote: > >> I am kinda new to this listing thing. I am on here cause a friend of my >> uses >> this for help with AS3. Is there a faq about how this works, so I don't >> waste anyones time.. >> >> Thanks!! >> >> > Just one rule: don

Re: [Flashcoders] Seamless e-commerce for AS3? Noob question

2010-04-20 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
i've never seen one specifically made for flash - my guess is that you'll need to create an interface for something xml based a On 20 April 2010 17:40, Steve Klein wrote: > Hello, All- >I don't want to bomb the list with info that's probably been covered > to death, but I'm having limit

Re: [Flashcoders] Hello Everyone!!

2010-04-20 Thread Henrik Andersson
Ryan P wrote: I am kinda new to this listing thing. I am on here cause a friend of my uses this for help with AS3. Is there a faq about how this works, so I don't waste anyones time.. Thanks!! Just one rule: don't do like the ignorant people bellow and reply when you mean to create a new top

Re: [Flashcoders] Seamless e-commerce for AS3? Noob question

2010-04-20 Thread Taka Kojima
This isn't really a Flash/ActionScript related question. There are tons of payment gateways, e.g. authroize.net. All of the ones I know require backend code to work. Taka On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Steve Klein wrote: > Hello, All- >I don't want to bomb the list with info that's p

[Flashcoders] Seamless e-commerce for AS3? Noob question

2010-04-20 Thread Steve Klein
Hello, All- I don't want to bomb the list with info that's probably been covered to death, but I'm having limited success in finding a cart/merchant processing solution that will be seamless in an AS3 site. If anyone could recommend a cart/payment processing solution that includ

Re: [Flashcoders] Hello Everyone!!

2010-04-20 Thread Kerry Thompson
Peter B wrote: > if you just moved from a third-world country and promised the client a huge > ecommerce flash site and usually hire russian flash devs but don't have any > contacts now and don't have money for a book then i would advise against > posting. LMAO! Where's Beno when you need him? C

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
that's the problem with apple's closed system - it's their way or the high way android supports both models - you can put your software in their appstore or provide a direct link on the net a On 20 April 2010 15:46, Paul Andrews wrote: > On 20/04/2010 15:31, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.

Re: [Flashcoders] Hello Everyone!!

2010-04-20 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr
DOH! ;) on 4/19/10 8:32 PM, jared stanley at jared.stan...@gmail.com wrote: > if you just moved from a third-world country and promised the client a huge > ecommerce flash site and usually hire russian flash devs but don't have any > contacts now and don't have money for a book then i would ad

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread Paul Andrews
On 20/04/2010 15:31, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: sure but you can compile to your own handset for testing as much as you like - it just won't get through the appstore approval process "testing" isn't much use to me. I can't build software for internal use at a company on

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
sure but you can compile to your own handset for testing as much as you like - it just won't get through the appstore approval process On 20 April 2010 15:24, Paul Andrews wrote: > On 20/04/2010 15:01, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: > >> note: to roll out an app to your dev ha

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread Paul Andrews
On 20/04/2010 15:01, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: note: to roll out an app to your dev handset requires a 100$ iphone developer license Which now forbids you to use the Adobe cross compiler. You have to agree to those terms. ___

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread Paul Andrews
On 20/04/2010 15:00, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) wrote: any developer can add an app to their phone through the compilation options from xcode using the sdk but there's no way i know of rolling this out to the public. i think for what you want, going through the cydia ( http://www.ap

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
note: to roll out an app to your dev handset requires a 100$ iphone developer license On 20 April 2010 15:00, allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) < alla...@gmail.com> wrote: > any developer can add an app to their phone through the compilation options > from xcode using the sdk but there's

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
any developer can add an app to their phone through the compilation options from xcode using the sdk but there's no way i know of rolling this out to the public. i think for what you want, going through the cydia ( http://www.appsafari.com/software/5325/cydia/) store on jailbroken phones / pods is

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread jonathan howe
They would have to be jailbreaked (jailbroken?) iPhones to run that. All apps require a digital certificate, which is managed through their developer program to be loaded onto the phone and run. The type of certificate controls whether how they can be distributed. Non store-distributed apps are res

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread Jer Brand
There is an enterprise version of the SDK that allows app distribution via your own servers (effectively replacing the app store). We looked at this for a state agency wanting to distribute apps to their employees. http://developer.apple.com/programs/iphone/enterprise/ The "Ad Hoc" distribution o

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread Matt S.
If the Agreement doesnt currently prevent it, you can be quite certain a couple sentences would be added in a hurry to make sure it does. .m On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: > Come to think of it, I wonder if you could just make a website for support > and download of you

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread Paul Andrews
On 20/04/2010 13:46, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: Come to think of it, I wonder if you could just make a website for support and download of your app. Sell it on the site via Paypal or a shopping cart. Can Apple prevent developers from doing this? Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@myna

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread tom rhodes
pretty sure you can't do that On 20 April 2010 14:46, Nathan Mynarcik wrote: > Come to think of it, I wonder if you could just make a website for support > and download of your app. Sell it on the site via Paypal or a shopping cart. > Can Apple prevent developers from doing this? > Nathan Mynar

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Nathan Mynarcik
This is true. If for some reason google thinks you are trying to advance your rank by wrongful ways (to their discretion) you get flagged. Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -Original Message- From: tom rhodes Date: Tue, 20 Apr 20

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread Nathan Mynarcik
Come to think of it, I wonder if you could just make a website for support and download of your app. Sell it on the site via Paypal or a shopping cart. Can Apple prevent developers from doing this? Nathan Mynarcik Interactive Web Developer nat...@mynarcik.com 254.749.2525 www.mynarcik.com -O

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread tom rhodes
as long as what you serve to the bots and as no flash content isn't different to what gets read by your flash i think it's cool... On 20 April 2010 14:29, Juan Pablo Califano wrote: > Isn't that kind of thing considered "unfair" play and penalized by search > engines if discovered? > Cheers > J

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread Nathan Mynarcik
I believe you just can't sell the app on the appstore. You can export and add it to any iPhone, its just against their SDK to sell it on iTunes. --Original Message-- From: Paul Andrews Sender: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com To: Flash Coders List ReplyTo: Flash Coders List Sub

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Juan Pablo Califano
Isn't that kind of thing considered "unfair" play and penalized by search engines if discovered? Cheers Juan Pablo Califano 2010/4/20 tom rhodes > use some server side script to serve up your site, check to see in the > headers sent to the server if the request coems from a bot or from a > browse

[Flashcoders] Flash and iThingammybob

2010-04-20 Thread Paul Andrews
Before anyone gets excited, I don't wish to re-ignite the Jobs/Apple hatemail (please pick another thread to manifest your anger) - just a question about the Apple development stranglehold. Even if the output from Adobes Flash->Apple conversion doesn't result in an officially sanctioned app th

Re: [Flashcoders] Hello Everyone!!

2010-04-20 Thread Peter B
> > if you just moved from a third-world country and promised the client a huge > ecommerce flash site and usually hire russian flash devs but don't have any > contacts now and don't have money for a book then i would advise against > posting. > > > heh heh _

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread tom rhodes
use some server side script to serve up your site, check to see in the headers sent to the server if the request coems from a bot or from a browser, if from a bot, serve up your xml, if from a browser server up your site. have a google for "swfaddress SEO" On 20 April 2010 11:52, Paul Andrews

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Karina Steffens
Hi Paul, Your best bet is to use something like SwfObject to write the flash in JavaScript, while serving indexable content to Google. That can be just some static text, or dynamically read content from the xml files. A fringe benefit of that is the ability to serve alternate content to browser

[Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Paul Andrews
I have a client whose website I developed (something like a year ago) in Flash and the site is totally driven by xml configuration files. It works well. My client has told me that google has indexed the site, but the google indexing contains an warning message - basically the flash site app