[Flashcoders] Flash to HTML
The group has been quite for awhile. Anyone still here? I know things are constantly evolving, I’m curious if anyone has found a good tool that will convert a rather complex game from Flash to HTML? I know Adobe has tools to convert timeline animations and graphics and minimal code and Google Swiffy came around when CS4 was out. I’m looking around to see if there is any newer developments in bringing existing Flash AS3 apps to HTML. Even if it’s not one to one, but at least gets me a good start, please through out your thoughts and/or suggestions. Much appreciated… Thanks, John John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML
John, Have yough considered writing up some simple pseudocode for us to build upon? On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1:02 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. jr.swee...@comcast.net wrote: The group has been quite for awhile. Anyone still here? I know things are constantly evolving, I’m curious if anyone has found a good tool that will convert a rather complex game from Flash to HTML? I know Adobe has tools to convert timeline animations and graphics and minimal code and Google Swiffy came around when CS4 was out. I’m looking around to see if there is any newer developments in bringing existing Flash AS3 apps to HTML. Even if it’s not one to one, but at least gets me a good start, please through out your thoughts and/or suggestions. Much appreciated… Thanks, John John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML
New version of Flash just came out that claims to export to HTML5 Canvas and do Actionscript to Javascript translations. Worth checking out? https://helpx.adobe.com/flash/how-to/creating-publishing-html5-canvas-document.html Jason Merrill Instructional Technology Architect II Bank of America Global Learning 703.302.9265 -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of John R. Sweeney Jr. Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2014 4:03 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML The group has been quite for awhile. Anyone still here? I know things are constantly evolving, I'm curious if anyone has found a good tool that will convert a rather complex game from Flash to HTML? I know Adobe has tools to convert timeline animations and graphics and minimal code and Google Swiffy came around when CS4 was out. I'm looking around to see if there is any newer developments in bringing existing Flash AS3 apps to HTML. Even if it's not one to one, but at least gets me a good start, please through out your thoughts and/or suggestions. Much appreciated. Thanks, John John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- This message, and any attachments, is for the intended recipient(s) only, may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or proprietary and subject to important terms and conditions available at http://www.bankofamerica.com/emaildisclaimer. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete this message. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML
Hi Mike, Not sure what you mean? I have a game that is written in AS3 and deployed via AIR to PC and MAC desktop, iPad’s and Android. Now my client wants to take it online, but I can’t use it as a Flash site, but then IOS and Android tablets won’t be able to access the app. So it will have to go to HTML5/CSS/jQuery. I’m just curious if there are any conversion tools to either automate that process or at least convert most of it and I’ll code the rest. Thanks, John John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Mike Starr starrten...@gmail.com wrote: John, Have yough considered writing up some simple pseudocode for us to build upon? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML
Has anyone played with this? Everything I’ve read, timeline animations can get converted and simple code. I have a 5 frame app that has 50 layers, 1000+ library elements and thousands of lines of code that the client now wants to go online for all platforms. What a surprise. ;) I’ll look into the latest update more closely, but was just wondering of things like Google Swiffy had gotten better or something else had come along. I’ll glad do the research, just wonder if anyone could point me in a direction. Thanks, John John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: New version of Flash just came out that claims to export to HTML5 Canvas and do Actionscript to Javascript translations. Worth checking out? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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I would really consider saying no to that request, and suggesting a rebuild that uses modern web standards. There are a lot of web optimizations that I would almost guarantee an export wouldn't consider... You'd definitely want to be lazy loading a lot of those assets so the preloading is reasonable. Ultimately, do you want to be refactoring and fixing AS3 code that Adobe will hopefully support in the future, or dealing with loads of Javascript. It's a tough choice :/ On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:31 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. jr.swee...@comcast.net wrote: Has anyone played with this? Everything I’ve read, timeline animations can get converted and simple code. I have a 5 frame app that has 50 layers, 1000+ library elements and thousands of lines of code that the client now wants to go online for all platforms. What a surprise. ;) I’ll look into the latest update more closely, but was just wondering of things like Google Swiffy had gotten better or something else had come along. I’ll glad do the research, just wonder if anyone could point me in a direction. Thanks, John John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: New version of Flash just came out that claims to export to HTML5 Canvas and do Actionscript to Javascript translations. Worth checking out? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- James Merrill toThePixel.com http://www.toThePixel.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML
It doesn't sound that tough a choice to me. Adobe will support Flash for years, for sure--it still supports Director, with regular Shlockwave updates. Whether there will be a market for us coders is another question. I have a job, with a real salary (I had to put the retirement thing on hold when I found out how much I would have to pay in taxes for IRA withdrawals and my wife still working), and there seem to be plenty of opportunities around for the time being, but more and more companies are discontinuing Flash development. I agree that the code probably wouldn't be production quality, but I've found taking somebody's code and optimizing it to be a great way to learn a new language. And, of course, JavaScript isn't that tough--it's ECMA 5, while AS3 is ECMA 3. There aren't a lot of surprises in JavaScript for a seasoned AS programmer. Cordially, Kerry Thompson On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:47 PM, James Merrill jmerri...@gmail.com wrote: I would really consider saying no to that request, and suggesting a rebuild that uses modern web standards. There are a lot of web optimizations that I would almost guarantee an export wouldn't consider... You'd definitely want to be lazy loading a lot of those assets so the preloading is reasonable. Ultimately, do you want to be refactoring and fixing AS3 code that Adobe will hopefully support in the future, or dealing with loads of Javascript. It's a tough choice :/ On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:31 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. jr.swee...@comcast.net wrote: Has anyone played with this? Everything I’ve read, timeline animations can get converted and simple code. I have a 5 frame app that has 50 layers, 1000+ library elements and thousands of lines of code that the client now wants to go online for all platforms. What a surprise. ;) I’ll look into the latest update more closely, but was just wondering of things like Google Swiffy had gotten better or something else had come along. I’ll glad do the research, just wonder if anyone could point me in a direction. Thanks, John John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: New version of Flash just came out that claims to export to HTML5 Canvas and do Actionscript to Javascript translations. Worth checking out? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- James Merrill toThePixel.com http://www.toThePixel.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML
The toughest choice for them is cost. This game was expensive and took about a year to build and then don’t want to shell out the same amount for a complete rebuild. So I’m at least doing the research. Thanks, John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:47 PM, James Merrill jmerri...@gmail.com wrote: It's a tough choice :/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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It's wishful thinking that there is a magic button anywhere that is going to convert any flash app of any real complexity into a fully functional HTML app. I think Adobe are making strides in this area, but it's nowhere near what you need. If it was, Adobe would be blasting it from the rooftops. I have seen a simple game built in Flash CC and generating HTML/Javascript but not a conversion from an existing codebase. You may find this informative: http://alesys.net/site/2013/12/15/postmortem-making-an-html5-game-with-flash-cc-html5-canvas-document-for-a-game-jam/ Paul On 19/06/2014 21:31, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote: Has anyone played with this? Everything I’ve read, timeline animations can get converted and simple code. I have a 5 frame app that has 50 layers, 1000+ library elements and thousands of lines of code that the client now wants to go online for all platforms. What a surprise. ;) I’ll look into the latest update more closely, but was just wondering of things like Google Swiffy had gotten better or something else had come along. I’ll glad do the research, just wonder if anyone could point me in a direction. Thanks, John John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: New version of Flash just came out that claims to export to HTML5 Canvas and do Actionscript to Javascript translations. Worth checking out? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML
Howdy, I know that and I’m sure most developers do too, but I promised the client I would do my best to look into it, before I give him the inevitable bad news. The assets are the problem as much as the extensive coding. This is a real-time simulation of living on your own for a year (52 weeks on a per week bases). Just a ton of stuff going on and being tracked. Our clients TOO often hear create once and deploy everywhere. We are already ahead of the game delivering about a dozen apps/games on the three platforms. But I don’t see a way to do it on the fourth and then your forced to maintain two codebases of each game. That also sucks. :( Thanks, John R. Sweeney Jr. Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer OnDemand Interactive Inc Hoffman Estates, IL 60169 On Jun 19, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Paul A. p...@ipauland.com wrote: It's wishful thinking that there is a magic button anywhere that is going to convert any flash app of any real complexity into a fully functional HTML app. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders