[Flashcoders] Flash to HTML

2014-06-19 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
The group has been quite for awhile. Anyone still here?

I know things are constantly evolving, I’m curious if anyone has found a good 
tool that will convert a rather complex game from Flash to HTML? I know Adobe 
has tools to convert timeline animations and graphics and minimal code and 
Google Swiffy came around when CS4 was out. I’m looking around to see if there 
is any newer developments in bringing existing Flash AS3 apps to HTML. Even if 
it’s not one to one, but at least gets me a good start, please through out your 
thoughts and/or suggestions.

Much appreciated…

Thanks,
John

John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
Hoffman Estates, IL 60169


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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML

2014-06-19 Thread Mike Starr
John,

Have yough considered writing up some simple pseudocode for us to build
upon?


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 1:02 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. jr.swee...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 The group has been quite for awhile. Anyone still here?

 I know things are constantly evolving, I’m curious if anyone has found a
 good tool that will convert a rather complex game from Flash to HTML? I
 know Adobe has tools to convert timeline animations and graphics and
 minimal code and Google Swiffy came around when CS4 was out. I’m looking
 around to see if there is any newer developments in bringing existing Flash
 AS3 apps to HTML. Even if it’s not one to one, but at least gets me a good
 start, please through out your thoughts and/or suggestions.

 Much appreciated…

 Thanks,
 John

 John R. Sweeney Jr.
 Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
 OnDemand Interactive Inc
 Hoffman Estates, IL 60169


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RE: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML

2014-06-19 Thread Merrill, Jason
New version of Flash just came out that claims to export to HTML5 Canvas and do 
Actionscript to Javascript translations. Worth checking out?

https://helpx.adobe.com/flash/how-to/creating-publishing-html5-canvas-document.html


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The group has been quite for awhile. Anyone still here?

I know things are constantly evolving, I'm curious if anyone has found a good 
tool that will convert a rather complex game from Flash to HTML? I know Adobe 
has tools to convert timeline animations and graphics and minimal code and 
Google Swiffy came around when CS4 was out. I'm looking around to see if there 
is any newer developments in bringing existing Flash AS3 apps to HTML. Even if 
it's not one to one, but at least gets me a good start, please through out your 
thoughts and/or suggestions.

Much appreciated.

Thanks,
John

John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML

2014-06-19 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Hi Mike,

Not sure what you mean? I have a game that is written in AS3 and deployed via 
AIR to PC and MAC desktop, iPad’s and Android. Now my client wants to take it 
online, but I can’t use it as a Flash site, but then IOS and Android tablets 
won’t be able to access the app. So it will have to go to HTML5/CSS/jQuery. I’m 
just curious if there are any conversion tools to either automate that process 
or at least convert most of it and I’ll code the rest. 

Thanks,
John

John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
Hoffman Estates, IL 60169




On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:10 PM, Mike Starr starrten...@gmail.com wrote:

 John,
 
 Have yough considered writing up some simple pseudocode for us to build
 upon?


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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML

2014-06-19 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Has anyone played with this? Everything I’ve read, timeline animations can get 
converted and simple code. I have a 5 frame app that has 50 layers, 1000+ 
library elements and thousands of lines of code that the client now wants to go 
online for all platforms. What a surprise. ;)

I’ll look into the latest update more closely, but was just wondering of things 
like Google Swiffy had gotten better or something else had come along. I’ll 
glad do the research, just wonder if anyone could point me in a direction. 

Thanks,
John

John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
Hoffman Estates, IL 60169




On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com 
wrote:

 New version of Flash just came out that claims to export to HTML5 Canvas and 
 do Actionscript to Javascript translations. Worth checking out?


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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML

2014-06-19 Thread James Merrill
I would really consider saying no to that request, and suggesting a rebuild
that uses modern web standards. There are a lot of web optimizations that I
would almost guarantee an export wouldn't consider... You'd definitely want
to be lazy loading a lot of those assets so the preloading is reasonable.
Ultimately, do you want to be refactoring and fixing AS3 code that Adobe
will hopefully support in the future, or dealing with loads of Javascript.
It's a tough choice :/


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:31 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. jr.swee...@comcast.net
 wrote:

 Has anyone played with this? Everything I’ve read, timeline animations can
 get converted and simple code. I have a 5 frame app that has 50 layers,
 1000+ library elements and thousands of lines of code that the client now
 wants to go online for all platforms. What a surprise. ;)

 I’ll look into the latest update more closely, but was just wondering of
 things like Google Swiffy had gotten better or something else had come
 along. I’ll glad do the research, just wonder if anyone could point me in a
 direction.

 Thanks,
 John

 John R. Sweeney Jr.
 Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
 OnDemand Interactive Inc
 Hoffman Estates, IL 60169




 On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Merrill, Jason 
 jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote:

  New version of Flash just came out that claims to export to HTML5 Canvas
 and do Actionscript to Javascript translations. Worth checking out?


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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML

2014-06-19 Thread Kerry Thompson
It doesn't sound that tough a choice to me. Adobe will support Flash for
years, for sure--it still supports Director, with regular Shlockwave
updates. Whether there will be a market for us coders is another question.
I have a job, with a real salary (I had to put the retirement thing on hold
when I found out how much I would have to pay in taxes for IRA withdrawals
and my wife still working), and there seem to be plenty of opportunities
around for the time being, but more and more companies are discontinuing
Flash development.

I agree that the code probably wouldn't be production quality, but I've
found taking somebody's code and optimizing it to be a great way to learn a
new language. And, of course, JavaScript isn't that tough--it's ECMA 5,
while AS3 is ECMA 3. There aren't a lot of surprises in JavaScript for a
seasoned AS programmer.

Cordially,

Kerry Thompson


On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:47 PM, James Merrill jmerri...@gmail.com wrote:

 I would really consider saying no to that request, and suggesting a rebuild
 that uses modern web standards. There are a lot of web optimizations that I
 would almost guarantee an export wouldn't consider... You'd definitely want
 to be lazy loading a lot of those assets so the preloading is reasonable.
 Ultimately, do you want to be refactoring and fixing AS3 code that Adobe
 will hopefully support in the future, or dealing with loads of Javascript.
 It's a tough choice :/


 On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 4:31 PM, John R. Sweeney Jr. 
 jr.swee...@comcast.net
  wrote:

  Has anyone played with this? Everything I’ve read, timeline animations
 can
  get converted and simple code. I have a 5 frame app that has 50 layers,
  1000+ library elements and thousands of lines of code that the client now
  wants to go online for all platforms. What a surprise. ;)
 
  I’ll look into the latest update more closely, but was just wondering of
  things like Google Swiffy had gotten better or something else had come
  along. I’ll glad do the research, just wonder if anyone could point me
 in a
  direction.
 
  Thanks,
  John
 
  John R. Sweeney Jr.
  Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
  OnDemand Interactive Inc
  Hoffman Estates, IL 60169
 
 
 
 
  On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Merrill, Jason 
  jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote:
 
   New version of Flash just came out that claims to export to HTML5
 Canvas
  and do Actionscript to Javascript translations. Worth checking out?
 
 
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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML

2014-06-19 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
The toughest choice for them is cost. This game was expensive and took about a 
year to build and then don’t want to shell out the same amount for a complete 
rebuild. 

So I’m at least doing the research. 

Thanks,


John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
Hoffman Estates, IL 60169




On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:47 PM, James Merrill jmerri...@gmail.com wrote:

 It's a tough choice :/

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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML

2014-06-19 Thread Paul A.
It's wishful thinking that there is a magic button anywhere that is 
going to convert any flash app of any real complexity into a fully 
functional HTML app.


I think Adobe are making strides in this area, but it's nowhere near 
what you need. If it was, Adobe would be blasting it from the rooftops.


I have seen a simple game built in Flash CC and generating 
HTML/Javascript but not a conversion from an existing codebase.


You may find this informative:

http://alesys.net/site/2013/12/15/postmortem-making-an-html5-game-with-flash-cc-html5-canvas-document-for-a-game-jam/

Paul

On 19/06/2014 21:31, John R. Sweeney Jr. wrote:

Has anyone played with this? Everything I’ve read, timeline animations can get 
converted and simple code. I have a 5 frame app that has 50 layers, 1000+ 
library elements and thousands of lines of code that the client now wants to go 
online for all platforms. What a surprise. ;)

I’ll look into the latest update more closely, but was just wondering of things 
like Google Swiffy had gotten better or something else had come along. I’ll 
glad do the research, just wonder if anyone could point me in a direction.

Thanks,
John

John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
Hoffman Estates, IL 60169




On Jun 19, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Merrill, Jason jason.merr...@bankofamerica.com 
wrote:


New version of Flash just came out that claims to export to HTML5 Canvas and do 
Actionscript to Javascript translations. Worth checking out?


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Re: [Flashcoders] Flash to HTML

2014-06-19 Thread John R. Sweeney Jr.
Howdy,

I know that and I’m sure most developers do too, but I promised the client I 
would do my best to look into it, before I give him the inevitable bad news. 
The assets are the problem as much as the extensive coding. This is a real-time 
simulation of living on your own for a year (52 weeks on a per week bases). 
Just a ton of stuff going on and being tracked. 

Our clients TOO often hear create once and deploy everywhere. We are already 
ahead of the game delivering about a dozen apps/games on the three platforms. 
But I don’t see a way to do it on the fourth and then your forced to maintain 
two codebases of each game. That also sucks. :(

Thanks,


John R. Sweeney Jr.
Senior Interactive Multimedia Developer
OnDemand Interactive Inc
Hoffman Estates, IL 60169




On Jun 19, 2014, at 5:44 PM, Paul A. p...@ipauland.com wrote:

 It's wishful thinking that there is a magic button anywhere that is going to 
 convert any flash app of any real complexity into a fully functional HTML app.

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