RE: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion
i don't quite agree with your argument. I am not making any argument - not sure where you're getting that - I just said I wouldn't risk it myself, personally. Macromedia just posted in this thread that It is always risky to build on a beta... you need to judge your tolerence for risk. It's just a business decision, and not one I am willing to risk with my own clients. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Nel Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:24 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion i am contracting to large company and we are doing stuff using flex2, so... i don't quite agree with your argument. also note what he says, they want to move an existing app to flex2 and his concern is that it will change radically from beta 1 to final product. the very fact that beta 2 is coming out means that things are relatively stable and well along the path. i think starting now will be a good idea. but thats just my opinion. On 3/14/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't bet any project on a beta personally - unless I had insiders at Adobe, but even then... Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Aebig Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:35 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion Hey all, The company I work for is interested in moving one of our large applications over to Flex when the new version comes out. Is it worthwhile or even feasible to begin porting it over with the Beta release or are we wasting our time considering that quite a bit of it could change beforehand. I'd hate to put in a lot of time into this only to find out that my source files are rendered obsolete when the new version is finally released. Thanks for your input, !k ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion
All I said was I wouldn't risk building a project for a client that relies on a beta version of a product. Mr. Mendels at Macromedia replied with basically the same response. I think that's pretty common reasoning, but apparently not everyone would agree and that's OK. I'm entitled to my opinion, just as you are yours. The poster asked for input on risk of using Flex 2 right now, and I just said what I would do/recommend. That's all. I think you somehow want to create a debate topic out of this, when there is really only personal opinions and personal business perspectives - no clear cut answer. I've given my personal opinion, and you have yours, so give it a rest. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Nel Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:21 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion first off lets clear up the use of words here: argument: 1. A discussion in which disagreement is expressed; a debate. 2. A course of reasoning aimed at demonstrating truth or falsehood example: presented a careful argument for extraterrestrial life. 3. A summary or short statement of the plot or subject of a literary work. i meant argument in the like number 2 from dictionary .com. and me not being a native english speaker having to point this out. tut tut tut. my argument (meaning 2) is that zorn is relatively stable. api's might have changed again between beta 1 and beta 2 and stuff will change to beta 3. this should not influence a project to much. futhermore, large companies are spending large amounts doing rd on this, so if they are trying to build stuff with it why shouldn't you try to port an existing app that works. building a brand spanking new app that you have a tight deadline on for midsummer is crazy talk, but taking something which works (hence you have something you can fall back ojn if you go over schedule) and building that using flex2 can only benefit a company and an individual from a strategic position. enough of this argument (1,2 and or 3) now. On 3/15/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't quite agree with your argument. I am not making any argument - not sure where you're getting that - I just said I wouldn't risk it myself, personally. Macromedia just posted in this thread that It is always risky to build on a beta... you need to judge your tolerence for risk. It's just a business decision, and not one I am willing to risk with my own clients. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Nel Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:24 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion i am contracting to large company and we are doing stuff using flex2, so... i don't quite agree with your argument. also note what he says, they want to move an existing app to flex2 and his concern is that it will change radically from beta 1 to final product. the very fact that beta 2 is coming out means that things are relatively stable and well along the path. i think starting now will be a good idea. but thats just my opinion. On 3/14/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't bet any project on a beta personally - unless I had insiders at Adobe, but even then... Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Aebig Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:35 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion Hey all, The company I work for is interested in moving one of our large applications over to Flex when the new version comes out. Is it worthwhile or even feasible to begin porting it over with the Beta release or are we wasting our time considering that quite a bit of it could change beforehand. I'd hate to put in a lot of time into this only to find out that my source files are rendered obsolete when the new version is finally released. Thanks for your input, !k ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion
Thanks for everyone's input and suggestions. I appreciate hearing from the new Mother ship, so thanks for chiming in David. I think we'll slowly begin migrating our app and deal with the issues as they arise... Thanks, Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Mendels Sent: March 14, 2006 11:10 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion Hi, I am from Adobe, let me give some perspective. A) It is always risky to build on a beta. I feel quite confident in where we are and hitting our schedule, but I have to be realistic that there is always some risk. You need to judge your tolerence for risk. B) There has been an API scrub between beta 1 and beta 2. The results are I think great--clarity and consistancy--but it will mean some migration from Beta 1 to beta 2. Most beta 1 apps will require some changes to run in beta 2. That said, we don't expect to need to do this again. Beta 3 and final could require some changes in your code, but if they do, it should be minor. Again, we can't make guarantees and you might have to make changes again before we ship. C) The advantages of Flex 2 are (IMO) enourmous and very valuable (performance, productivity, maintainability). We aren't going to be reachitecting the Player, framework, language, again for a long long time. If you can go straight to Flex 2/Player 8.5 that will save you the effort at some point of migrating, but it does carry risk until we ship. I know this isn't a absolute answer, but I hope it helps, David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Nel Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:24 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion i am contracting to large company and we are doing stuff using flex2, so... i don't quite agree with your argument. also note what he says, they want to move an existing app to flex2 and his concern is that it will change radically from beta 1 to final product. the very fact that beta 2 is coming out means that things are relatively stable and well along the path. i think starting now will be a good idea. but thats just my opinion. On 3/14/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't bet any project on a beta personally - unless I had insiders at Adobe, but even then... Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Aebig Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:35 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion Hey all, The company I work for is interested in moving one of our large applications over to Flex when the new version comes out. Is it worthwhile or even feasible to begin porting it over with the Beta release or are we wasting our time considering that quite a bit of it could change beforehand. I'd hate to put in a lot of time into this only to find out that my source files are rendered obsolete when the new version is finally released. Thanks for your input, !k ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion
The question that I would be asking myself if I was thinking of using Flex2 for a real world project right now, is, if at some point in the development cycle it would be ok to have to rewrite/rework an unknown percent of the code, due to a new beta or final release.. if that does not sound scary then happy day. Of course, I can't imagine being able to convince a client to require a beta flash player version... On Mar 15, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote: All I said was I wouldn't risk building a project for a client that relies on a beta version of a product. Mr. Mendels at Macromedia replied with basically the same response. I think that's pretty common reasoning, but apparently not everyone would agree and that's OK. I'm entitled to my opinion, just as you are yours. The poster asked for input on risk of using Flex 2 right now, and I just said what I would do/recommend. That's all. I think you somehow want to create a debate topic out of this, when there is really only personal opinions and personal business perspectives - no clear cut answer. I've given my personal opinion, and you have yours, so give it a rest. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Nel Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:21 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion first off lets clear up the use of words here: argument: 1. A discussion in which disagreement is expressed; a debate. 2. A course of reasoning aimed at demonstrating truth or falsehood example: presented a careful argument for extraterrestrial life. 3. A summary or short statement of the plot or subject of a literary work. i meant argument in the like number 2 from dictionary .com. and me not being a native english speaker having to point this out. tut tut tut. my argument (meaning 2) is that zorn is relatively stable. api's might have changed again between beta 1 and beta 2 and stuff will change to beta 3. this should not influence a project to much. futhermore, large companies are spending large amounts doing rd on this, so if they are trying to build stuff with it why shouldn't you try to port an existing app that works. building a brand spanking new app that you have a tight deadline on for midsummer is crazy talk, but taking something which works (hence you have something you can fall back ojn if you go over schedule) and building that using flex2 can only benefit a company and an individual from a strategic position. enough of this argument (1,2 and or 3) now. On 3/15/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't quite agree with your argument. I am not making any argument - not sure where you're getting that - I just said I wouldn't risk it myself, personally. Macromedia just posted in this thread that It is always risky to build on a beta... you need to judge your tolerence for risk. It's just a business decision, and not one I am willing to risk with my own clients. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Nel Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:24 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion i am contracting to large company and we are doing stuff using flex2, so... i don't quite agree with your argument. also note what he says, they want to move an existing app to flex2 and his concern is that it will change radically from beta 1 to final product. the very fact that beta 2 is coming out means that things are relatively stable and well along the path. i think starting now will be a good idea. but thats just my opinion. On 3/14/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't bet any project on a beta personally - unless I had insiders at Adobe, but even then... Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Aebig Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:35 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion Hey all, The company I work for is interested in moving one of our large applications over to Flex when the new version comes out. Is it worthwhile or even feasible to begin porting it over with the Beta release or are we wasting our time considering that quite a bit of it could change beforehand. I'd hate to put in a lot of time into this only to find out that my source files are rendered obsolete when the new version is finally released. Thanks for your input, !k ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion
FYI, this tool won't be released to our clients until probably 3 to 5 months after the new plug-in has been released. Unfortunately, this application is massive and it'll take probably close to a year to finish a full conversion. To Michael and Jason, I appreciate both of your opinions and have taken a lot of what was said to heart. Thanks, Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Bedar Sent: March 15, 2006 9:55 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion The question that I would be asking myself if I was thinking of using Flex2 for a real world project right now, is, if at some point in the development cycle it would be ok to have to rewrite/rework an unknown percent of the code, due to a new beta or final release.. if that does not sound scary then happy day. Of course, I can't imagine being able to convince a client to require a beta flash player version... On Mar 15, 2006, at 10:33 AM, Merrill, Jason wrote: All I said was I wouldn't risk building a project for a client that relies on a beta version of a product. Mr. Mendels at Macromedia replied with basically the same response. I think that's pretty common reasoning, but apparently not everyone would agree and that's OK. I'm entitled to my opinion, just as you are yours. The poster asked for input on risk of using Flex 2 right now, and I just said what I would do/recommend. That's all. I think you somehow want to create a debate topic out of this, when there is really only personal opinions and personal business perspectives - no clear cut answer. I've given my personal opinion, and you have yours, so give it a rest. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Nel Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:21 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion first off lets clear up the use of words here: argument: 1. A discussion in which disagreement is expressed; a debate. 2. A course of reasoning aimed at demonstrating truth or falsehood example: presented a careful argument for extraterrestrial life. 3. A summary or short statement of the plot or subject of a literary work. i meant argument in the like number 2 from dictionary .com. and me not being a native english speaker having to point this out. tut tut tut. my argument (meaning 2) is that zorn is relatively stable. api's might have changed again between beta 1 and beta 2 and stuff will change to beta 3. this should not influence a project to much. futhermore, large companies are spending large amounts doing rd on this, so if they are trying to build stuff with it why shouldn't you try to port an existing app that works. building a brand spanking new app that you have a tight deadline on for midsummer is crazy talk, but taking something which works (hence you have something you can fall back ojn if you go over schedule) and building that using flex2 can only benefit a company and an individual from a strategic position. enough of this argument (1,2 and or 3) now. On 3/15/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i don't quite agree with your argument. I am not making any argument - not sure where you're getting that - I just said I wouldn't risk it myself, personally. Macromedia just posted in this thread that It is always risky to build on a beta... you need to judge your tolerence for risk. It's just a business decision, and not one I am willing to risk with my own clients. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Nel Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:24 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion i am contracting to large company and we are doing stuff using flex2, so... i don't quite agree with your argument. also note what he says, they want to move an existing app to flex2 and his concern is that it will change radically from beta 1 to final product. the very fact that beta 2 is coming out means that things are relatively stable and well along the path. i think starting now will be a good idea. but thats just my opinion. On 3/14/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't bet any project on a beta personally - unless I had insiders at Adobe, but even then... Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Aebig Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:35 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion Hey all
[Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion
Hey all, The company I work for is interested in moving one of our large applications over to Flex when the new version comes out. Is it worthwhile or even feasible to begin porting it over with the Beta release or are we wasting our time considering that quite a bit of it could change beforehand. I'd hate to put in a lot of time into this only to find out that my source files are rendered obsolete when the new version is finally released. Thanks for your input, !k ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion
i would start porting without worrying about it, beta2 is on its way out, and some things might change, but nothing to be overly concerned about i think. it took me less than a day to port all my code from alpha 1 to beta 1. if you know mxml already you are already well on your way . flex 2 and as3 is really awsome, i enjoyed working in flex1.5 as well but as3 is brilliant On 3/14/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, The company I work for is interested in moving one of our large applications over to Flex when the new version comes out. Is it worthwhile or even feasible to begin porting it over with the Beta release or are we wasting our time considering that quite a bit of it could change beforehand. I'd hate to put in a lot of time into this only to find out that my source files are rendered obsolete when the new version is finally released. Thanks for your input, !k ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion
as a side note, you don't need to use flex if file size is a worry, but the flex framework really gives you a ton of power. On 3/14/06, Johannes Nel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would start porting without worrying about it, beta2 is on its way out, and some things might change, but nothing to be overly concerned about i think. it took me less than a day to port all my code from alpha 1 to beta 1. if you know mxml already you are already well on your way . flex 2 and as3 is really awsome, i enjoyed working in flex1.5 as well but as3 is brilliant On 3/14/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, The company I work for is interested in moving one of our large applications over to Flex when the new version comes out. Is it worthwhile or even feasible to begin porting it over with the Beta release or are we wasting our time considering that quite a bit of it could change beforehand. I'd hate to put in a lot of time into this only to find out that my source files are rendered obsolete when the new version is finally released. Thanks for your input, !k ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion
I wouldn't bet any project on a beta personally - unless I had insiders at Adobe, but even then... Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Aebig Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:35 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion Hey all, The company I work for is interested in moving one of our large applications over to Flex when the new version comes out. Is it worthwhile or even feasible to begin porting it over with the Beta release or are we wasting our time considering that quite a bit of it could change beforehand. I'd hate to put in a lot of time into this only to find out that my source files are rendered obsolete when the new version is finally released. Thanks for your input, !k ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion
So any educated guesses on when Flex 2 will be released? Seems early/mid summer-ish to me, but that's just a guess based on the updates they send. Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Nel Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 5:21 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion i would start porting without worrying about it, beta2 is on its way out, and some things might change, but nothing to be overly concerned about i think. it took me less than a day to port all my code from alpha 1 to beta 1. if you know mxml already you are already well on your way . flex 2 and as3 is really awsome, i enjoyed working in flex1.5 as well but as3 is brilliant On 3/14/06, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all, The company I work for is interested in moving one of our large applications over to Flex when the new version comes out. Is it worthwhile or even feasible to begin porting it over with the Beta release or are we wasting our time considering that quite a bit of it could change beforehand. I'd hate to put in a lot of time into this only to find out that my source files are rendered obsolete when the new version is finally released. Thanks for your input, !k ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion
i am contracting to large company and we are doing stuff using flex2, so... i don't quite agree with your argument. also note what he says, they want to move an existing app to flex2 and his concern is that it will change radically from beta 1 to final product. the very fact that beta 2 is coming out means that things are relatively stable and well along the path. i think starting now will be a good idea. but thats just my opinion. On 3/14/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't bet any project on a beta personally - unless I had insiders at Adobe, but even then... Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Aebig Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:35 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion Hey all, The company I work for is interested in moving one of our large applications over to Flex when the new version comes out. Is it worthwhile or even feasible to begin porting it over with the Beta release or are we wasting our time considering that quite a bit of it could change beforehand. I'd hate to put in a lot of time into this only to find out that my source files are rendered obsolete when the new version is finally released. Thanks for your input, !k ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion
Hi, I am from Adobe, let me give some perspective. A) It is always risky to build on a beta. I feel quite confident in where we are and hitting our schedule, but I have to be realistic that there is always some risk. You need to judge your tolerence for risk. B) There has been an API scrub between beta 1 and beta 2. The results are I think great--clarity and consistancy--but it will mean some migration from Beta 1 to beta 2. Most beta 1 apps will require some changes to run in beta 2. That said, we don't expect to need to do this again. Beta 3 and final could require some changes in your code, but if they do, it should be minor. Again, we can't make guarantees and you might have to make changes again before we ship. C) The advantages of Flex 2 are (IMO) enourmous and very valuable (performance, productivity, maintainability). We aren't going to be reachitecting the Player, framework, language, again for a long long time. If you can go straight to Flex 2/Player 8.5 that will save you the effort at some point of migrating, but it does carry risk until we ship. I know this isn't a absolute answer, but I hope it helps, David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Nel Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 6:24 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion i am contracting to large company and we are doing stuff using flex2, so... i don't quite agree with your argument. also note what he says, they want to move an existing app to flex2 and his concern is that it will change radically from beta 1 to final product. the very fact that beta 2 is coming out means that things are relatively stable and well along the path. i think starting now will be a good idea. but thats just my opinion. On 3/14/06, Merrill, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wouldn't bet any project on a beta personally - unless I had insiders at Adobe, but even then... Jason Merrill | E-Learning Solutions | icfconsulting.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flashcoders- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Aebig Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 1:35 PM To: 'Flashcoders mailing list' Subject: [Flashcoders] Flex2 Project Conversion Hey all, The company I work for is interested in moving one of our large applications over to Flex when the new version comes out. Is it worthwhile or even feasible to begin porting it over with the Beta release or are we wasting our time considering that quite a bit of it could change beforehand. I'd hate to put in a lot of time into this only to find out that my source files are rendered obsolete when the new version is finally released. Thanks for your input, !k ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com NOTICE: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged or confidential information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of this e-mail by you is prohibited. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com -- j:pn http://www.lennel.org ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
