Re: [Flashcoders] jFlash and other web-based, non-browser options
Hi, The 'old' Version 3 of Screenweaver would fit to your needs, I think. But I don't know, where and if that version is still available. That was a really cool solution, because you have a Actionscript 2.0 API to Windows System functions. So you could give HaXe and ScreenweaverHX a try, which Nicolas would probably post here himself, if anyone else would. ;-) hth, Matthias 2007/5/21, Andrew Sinning [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Sounds like a good exe shell for Flash, but it requires an exe, i.e. Admin rights. The advantage of Java is that end users in corporate and other environments can typically run Java apps without Admin rights. Steven Sacks wrote: mProjector Andrew Sinning wrote: What are the options for delivering Flash over the web, but outside of the browser? Has anybody used jFlash (a module that allows you to use Flash content in stead of Swing within Java)? Our objective is to deliver an interactive IRC/remote-control which will float over other windows. We'd like to throw up an alert message before letting the end-user close the window, and we think it would be really cool if the window could be semi transparent. A Windows only solution would be acceptable in the short run. Thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] jFlash and other web-based, non-browser options
Andrew, You don't need admin rights to run an .exe file. Typically, you need admin rights to run an _installer_, but if your app is a single self-contained .exe then there's no need for an installer. I have ScreenweaverHX/Flash apps running happily without admin rights on Vista, XP and 98 as a standalone .exe (that self-unpacks into a temporary folder to run). The other solution you might want to take a look at is Apollo, particularly if you are looking at AS3. HTH, Ian On 5/21/07, Andrew Sinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like a good exe shell for Flash, but it requires an exe, i.e. Admin rights. The advantage of Java is that end users in corporate and other environments can typically run Java apps without Admin rights. Steven Sacks wrote: mProjector Andrew Sinning wrote: What are the options for delivering Flash over the web, but outside of the browser? Has anybody used jFlash (a module that allows you to use Flash content in stead of Swing within Java)? Our objective is to deliver an interactive IRC/remote-control which will float over other windows. We'd like to throw up an alert message before letting the end-user close the window, and we think it would be really cool if the window could be semi transparent. A Windows only solution would be acceptable in the short run. Thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] jFlash and other web-based, non-browser options
Ian Thomas wrote: You don't need admin rights to run an .exe file. Typically, you need admin rights to run an _installer_, but if your app is a single self-contained .exe then there's no need for an installer. That's certainly news to me. Everything I have ever built has been broken down into multiple files, so I've never attempted to distribute a single file exe. However, I'm quite skeptical of what you are saying. As I understand it, a typical institutional/corporate privileges configuration restricts non-admin execute rights to only the Programs and Windows folders, which in turn have write privs set to false. This combination makes in impossible for non admins to run anything that hasn't been installed by an admin. (The typical exception being CDs and removable devices.) But this is just what I've inferred. I've never specifically asked. The other problem I've seen is that many users can't download exes through their institutional firewalls. Don't get me wrong. I totally appreciate what you are saying and want you to be right! It just runs contrary to my experience. Thanks for the input! Andrew ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
RE: [Flashcoders] jFlash and other web-based, non-browser options
As I understand it, a typical institutional/corporate privileges configuration restricts non-admin execute rights to only the Programs and Windows folders, which in turn have write privs set to false Generally correct. But a Flash projector does not use these folders at all, nor does it change the registry. That's the beauty: all the playback technology is contained in the executable, with no dependencies and no change to the local machine. We've dropped executable Flash projectors on many desktops that have run on computers that are locked down. We've never had a problem, even for firms with very strict security policies like financial institutions. Getting the exe delivered to the desktop is an entirely different story... Randy Tinfow IMAGE PLANT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Sinning Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 9:34 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] jFlash and other web-based, non-browser options Ian Thomas wrote: You don't need admin rights to run an .exe file. Typically, you need admin rights to run an _installer_, but if your app is a single self-contained .exe then there's no need for an installer. That's certainly news to me. Everything I have ever built has been broken down into multiple files, so I've never attempted to distribute a single file exe. However, I'm quite skeptical of what you are saying. As I understand it, a typical institutional/corporate privileges configuration restricts non-admin execute rights to only the Programs and Windows folders, which in turn have write privs set to false. This combination makes in impossible for non admins to run anything that hasn't been installed by an admin. (The typical exception being CDs and removable devices.) But this is just what I've inferred. I've never specifically asked. The other problem I've seen is that many users can't download exes through their institutional firewalls. Don't get me wrong. I totally appreciate what you are saying and want you to be right! It just runs contrary to my experience. Thanks for the input! Andrew ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] jFlash and other web-based, non-browser options
On 5/21/07, Andrew Sinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ian Thomas wrote: You don't need admin rights to run an .exe file. Typically, you need admin rights to run an _installer_, but if your app is a single self-contained .exe then there's no need for an installer. That's certainly news to me. Everything I have ever built has been broken down into multiple files, so I've never attempted to distribute a single file exe. However, I'm quite skeptical of what you are saying. As I understand it, a typical institutional/corporate privileges configuration restricts non-admin execute rights to only the Programs and Windows folders, which in turn have write privs set to false. This combination makes in impossible for non admins to run anything that hasn't been installed by an admin. (The typical exception being CDs and removable devices.) But this is just what I've inferred. I've never specifically asked. Well - it's certainly something that's never been a problem for us! But now I've double-checked with a friend who works for the Ministry of Defense, and you're quite right - with 3rd-party technology you really can lock down XP to that extent, which is something I hadn't thought about (shows how often I work with big corporations these days!). However, from recent (painful) experience porting a whole bunch of apps to Vista, it's not a problem in out-of-the-box Vista/XP installations (standard restricted-rights users). Sorry for the noise! Ian ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
[Flashcoders] jFlash and other web-based, non-browser options
What are the options for delivering Flash over the web, but outside of the browser? Has anybody used jFlash (a module that allows you to use Flash content in stead of Swing within Java)? Our objective is to deliver an interactive IRC/remote-control which will float over other windows. We'd like to throw up an alert message before letting the end-user close the window, and we think it would be really cool if the window could be semi transparent. A Windows only solution would be acceptable in the short run. Thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] jFlash and other web-based, non-browser options
mProjector Andrew Sinning wrote: What are the options for delivering Flash over the web, but outside of the browser? Has anybody used jFlash (a module that allows you to use Flash content in stead of Swing within Java)? Our objective is to deliver an interactive IRC/remote-control which will float over other windows. We'd like to throw up an alert message before letting the end-user close the window, and we think it would be really cool if the window could be semi transparent. A Windows only solution would be acceptable in the short run. Thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
Re: [Flashcoders] jFlash and other web-based, non-browser options
Sounds like a good exe shell for Flash, but it requires an exe, i.e. Admin rights. The advantage of Java is that end users in corporate and other environments can typically run Java apps without Admin rights. Steven Sacks wrote: mProjector Andrew Sinning wrote: What are the options for delivering Flash over the web, but outside of the browser? Has anybody used jFlash (a module that allows you to use Flash content in stead of Swing within Java)? Our objective is to deliver an interactive IRC/remote-control which will float over other windows. We'd like to throw up an alert message before letting the end-user close the window, and we think it would be really cool if the window could be semi transparent. A Windows only solution would be acceptable in the short run. Thanks. ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Brought to you by Fig Leaf Software Premier Authorized Adobe Consulting and Training http://www.figleaf.com http://training.figleaf.com
