RE: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?)

2005-11-04 Thread Mink, Joseph
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?) OK, we're analysing this to a level it was never meant to be analysed at. This often seems to happen, though. I find design patterns to beincredibly useful for attaching names to co

RE: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?)

2005-11-03 Thread Steven Webster
Douglas, Got me thinking thoughin OOP terms just what is a helper object? I don't recall seeing these in say Java, or maybe they have a different name. View Helper was one of the Core J2EE Patterns, that would most usually have been implemented as a custom-tag in JSP. It's nothing

Re: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?)

2005-11-03 Thread Douglas Knudsen
Yeah, I understand the ViewHelper. The more generic 'helper object' though I have not heard of. So, View Helper is a helper obejct. So, say I have a Front Controller object that needs some 'help', would I apply a Front Controller Helper object? Obvioulsy this depends on the problem to solve,

RE: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?)

2005-11-03 Thread Roger Gonzalez
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 8:13 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?) Yeah, I understand the ViewHelper. The more generic 'helper object' though I have

Re: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?)

2005-11-03 Thread JesterXL
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 12:03 PM Subject: RE: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?) See my previous reply for a concrete example. I just meant an extra object that encapsulates a well

RE: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?)

2005-11-03 Thread Steven Webster
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Douglas Knudsen Sent: 03 November 2005 16:13 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?) Yeah, I understand the ViewHelper. The more generic

RE: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?)

2005-11-03 Thread Roger Gonzalez
OK, we're analysing this to a level it was never meant to be analysed at. This often seems to happen, though. I find design patterns to be incredibly useful for attaching names to common code constructs (both for describing how something was implemented or how it could/should be

Re: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?)

2005-11-03 Thread JesterXL
Anyone else break into a cold sweat reading that last part? Whew... that was nice, John Woo style! - Original Message - From: Roger Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 1:20 PM Subject: RE: helper object? what's that? (was Re

Re: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?)

2005-11-03 Thread Douglas Knudsen
PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else break into a cold sweat reading that last part? Whew... that was nice, John Woo style! - Original Message - From: Roger Gonzalez [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 1:20 PM Subject: RE: helper object? what's

Re: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?)

2005-11-03 Thread Julian Suggate
ps no offense about comparing you to my ex-girlfriend's mother lol ;-) i'm sure you're not a crazy feminist lesbian On 11/4/05, Julian Suggate [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Damn that wasgood! Perhaps we should start calling you Speedy Gonzalez :-) You sound like my ex-girlfriend's mother. She was

Re: helper object? what's that? (was Re: [flexcoders] To code-behind or not to code-behind?)

2005-11-03 Thread Julian Suggate
Damn that wasgood! Perhaps we should start calling you Speedy Gonzalez :-) You sound like my ex-girlfriend's mother. She was totally sick on a bike. Used to get off the back of her wheels with legs like spaghetti and a head full of thunderous ear-splitting panic. Took me right back. Mate that