hi try to put the below crossdomain.xml u r missing something there;
?xml version=1.0?
!DOCTYPE cross-domain-policy SYSTEM
http://www.macromedia.com/xml/dtds/cross-domain-policy.dtd;
cross-domain-policy
allow-access-from domain=* secure=false/
/cross-domain-policy
As per mine
Hi, I have this problem, in this example of the Flex Menu component:
http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/25/vertical-menubar-component
I need to show an alert box on the MenuItem 2-B and MenuItem 3-B
(items with submenu), but the itemClick don't work on this items
Thanks for your help
Use the interval property on the Axis
-Sunil
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Behalf Of anthony_morsey
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 6:53 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: How do I alternate labeling
Hi All
I'm using the flexbook component here:
http://www.quietlyscheming.com/blog/components/flexbook/
but need to be able to tab to the buttons on the pages in the book.
If I make the book implement the IFocusManagerComponent interface I
can tab to the book but within it.
I have made sure
Hi all,
I am using amfphp 1.9 to retrieve/send data from a database
for my flex app. It was working ok in LAN, but when i hosted it on server ,
whenever i call amfphp service it gives me error
Error #2044: Unhandled SecurityErrorEvent:. text=Error #2048: Security
sandbox violation:
Hi,
I am using Flex 3 beta 2 (with the Flex 2 serial numbers).
But today i can not build a project anymore. I have always the error
beta expired.
It seems that expiration is forced on January 31.
I can not upgrade to Flex 3 beta 3, as one of my library does not work
(I prefer to wait for the
Ok, I've managed to fix this (the sure fire way of working a problem out for
yourself is posting the question on flexcoders!).
The FlexBookPage class had tabChildren set to false. Setting this to true
solved the problem.
On Jan 31, 2008 9:13 AM, Giles Roadnight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi
On Wednesday 30 Jan 2008, Todd wrote:
OK, that I can see. So then will my default FaultHandler be fired
then when the debug player isn't being used?
No, it'll be silently swallowed.
I'm not sure if try/catch will help or not.
BTW, I may be having bigger issues with my WSDL and service
i also have the same problem.
currently downloading beta 3 , i could not find any other solution;
i wish beta 3 works for me.
eric_mahe wrote On 01/31/2008 11:34 AM:
Hi,
I am using Flex 3 beta 2 (with the Flex 2 serial numbers).
But today i can not build a project anymore. I have always the
This same question was asked when Beta1 expired and I don't think there's a
resolution besides moving to a newer Beta. It seems fair enough in the
context of a Beta programme.
Paul
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Sent: Thursday,
I have downloaded only the sdk and now the expiration date is Sat Mar
15 2008.
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Hi,
I am using Flex 3 beta 2 (with the Flex 2 serial numbers).
But today i can not build a project anymore. I have always the error
beta
Hello,
Following two release candidates, the final Granite Data Services 1.0.0
release is available for download on Sourceforge
http://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=183386 .
Documentation has been updated and now covers all new features available
in GDS 1.0. Browse it here
If you have a serial number for FB2 - it extends the trial.
Other than that, just move to the Beta 3
Cheers,
J
On 31/01/2008, shrike6_7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have downloaded only the sdk and now the expiration date is Sat Mar
15 2008.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
I have noticed what I think may be a bug in the SuperImage component.
When I load a large collection of images that need to be resized
before they are displayed, the component first shows the image at full
size and then shrinks it down. In some cases the image actually gets
stuck at full size.
I just tried to compile and in the problems window, where one compile
error appear, the errors says Beta Expired but in status bar at the
very bottom, it says I have 44 days let. I have Flex2 license and can
view them but clicking ok doesn't do anything. I'm stuck and in a bit
of a panic since I
Hi all,
Is there any way in which we can find out the list has shown all the rows in
visible area..
I tried to use updateComplete event but..it did not help me much...
Regards
PS
I make setter/getter to property that is source of data binding and
mx:List have strange behavior: If i modify property of any element in
files List lost selectedItem. Without setter everything works as expected.
private var _files:ArrayCollection;
public function set
I've posted Ant scripts for building rsl's in the past. Do a hunt
through the archives for them. There are a few complexities using compc
rather than mxmlc.
Gk.
Gregor Kiddie
Senior Developer
INPS
Tel: 01382 564343
Registered address: The Bread Factory, 1a Broughton Street, London SW8
I think that the Beta releases expire at set dates and you'll have to change
from Beta 2 to Beta 3..
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Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:59 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] NEW Flex 3 Beta 2 expired Question
I
All you need to do is download BlazeDS, and run Tomcat's startup.bat
then go here:
http://localhost:8400/blazeds-samples/
-James
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Behalf Of jovialrandor
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 8:30 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Thanks Alex, that's extremely helpful. I don't doubt that you're correct,
but could you tell me where that's documented? I don't see it in any of the
API docs for the mx.modules classes, and the word module doesn't appear
anywhere in the Flash Player 9 Security Whitepaper PDF. The same app is
hi,
ok... may be the problem is not with crossdomain.xml,... can uu please post
the error u r getting ?. and try to post the code so that it may helpful to
find out the bug.
thank u
shrikant
Dave Glasser-2 wrote:
That didn't work either. As I mentioned, the crossdomain.xml file isn't
even
That didn't work either. As I mentioned, the crossdomain.xml file isn't even
being requested by the Flash player.
--- shrikant.patil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
hi try to put the below crossdomain.xml u r missing something there;
?xml version=1.0?
!DOCTYPE cross-domain-policy SYSTEM
I asked several questions a long time ago about rendering a large
DataGrid (more than 20x20). The end result I found is that DataGrid
isintolerably slow (scrolling takes more than 5-6 seconds to render
virtualized cells+headers, even with highly optimized renderers).
I'm looking for better
Yes, i have, if i have two bundles, one embeded assets, it works, but
if i have four bundles, the asset is not displaying.
I see this problem in flex 2.0.1
Hi,
I've got the following sample code that draws a larger square with
another smaller square rendered halfway inside the larger square and
halfway out:
public function drawSquare():void {
var largeSquare:Canvas = new Canvas();
largeSquare.clipContent = true;
We're looking to design and find a partner to build out a flex
executive dashboard.
I am looking for the best examples out there. Closer to Tufte than aqua.
Thanks,
I wrote a simple renderer to display a concatination of two fields on
the object item in a list. MXML code is below:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Text xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml;
text={StringUtil.trim(data.NAME)} - {StringUtil.trim(data.LABEL)}
textAlign=left
Hey all, quick question. I'm getting a beta expired error, but when I open
up the manage flex licenses. It's the charting that is expired. How can I
just get rid of charting so that I'm not hosed. I have a license for FB,
just not the charting.
Thanks -A
I'm having a number of issues in my application regarding keyboard
navigation and selection of objects within other components. For
example, in a datagrid I have, two of the columns' are displayed as
link buttosn, each of which is contained in a vbox within an item
renderer.
The problem is
On button press send array objects.How record them in Mysql?
The the result is 1 record -$name=,description= and price=
Can you help me?
public class SendDelegate
{
private var responder :IResponder;
private var service : AbstractService;
How ever list all the event listeners for an object.
I found a proposal:
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-14127
Any idea how to workaround this problem?
sven-
You might want to check your namespaces. Last time I checked,
DropShadowFilter is under the flash.filters namespace, not mx (Flex). The
dropshadow is definitely available in Flex 2, and even implemented in almost
all of the default skins :)
- Kyle
The code looks like:
var moduleInfo:IModuleInfo = ModuleManager.getModule(_url);
moduleInfo.addEventListener(ModuleEvent.READY, onModuleLoaded);
moduleInfo.addEventListener(ModuleEvent.ERROR, onModuleError);
moduleInfo.load();
And the onModuleError event handler gets called. The ModuleEvent's
Believe me, I tried every possible thing I could think of before I posted to
this list. The logs on the server indicate that the module is in fact being
served, and it all works when the original SWF file is loaded from the
server, in the browser, instead of the local disk with the standalone
On Thursday 31 Jan 2008, luke_lee1124 wrote:
Yes, i have,
Please share it :-)
--
Tom Chiverton
Helping to conveniently expedite turn-key eyeballs
on: http://thefalken.livejournal.com
This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP.
OK - whilst I appreciate that developing with Beta software is a bit 'Do
it at your own risk' this is a serious pain in the arse. I haven't been
able to work out any other way of fixing this then uninstalling beta 2 and
then installing beta 3. This means that I've now got to reinstall my CF
hi,
check for the value (should b string) of variable _url (try to put
breakpoint in degugger, and check with variables panel, u wil get what
actually the variable hold the value)...
i think here the problem is with the variable _url... so please test it
and let me know the value of _url
On Thursday 31 Jan 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
able to work out any other way of fixing this then uninstalling beta 2 and
then installing beta 3.
shrug
Such is beta, as you say.
This means that I've now got to reinstall my CF
Extentions (not a biggie really) and also reinstall CFEclipse
hi,
cool
here i m sendung u a link of flex documentation :
http://livedocs.adobe.com/labs/flex3/html/help.html?content=modular_5.html
on this page there is a topic titled with :
Loading modules from different servers
check the security, and methods which need to take at initial stage
http://www.dreaminginflash.com/2007/12/11/extend-flex-3-trial-period/
Hope this helps, good luck!
On Jan 31, 2008 6:59 AM, essuark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just tried to compile and in the problems window, where one compile
error appear, the errors says Beta Expired but in status bar at
Same here. This really frustrates me and seems like an obvious bug.
I'm surprised it's not fixed in Flex 3 either...it seems fairly common
to have a component inside another that you want to be able to grow
(percentage width) and scroll vertically.
My fix is to disable horizontal scrolling and
Thanks, shrikant. I already tried all of the various Security.allowDomain
calls, in both the accessing and the accessed module, and it still doesn't
work. I believe Alex Harui's answer is correct, that it's just not possible
for a local SWF in the standalone Flash player to load a remote SWF
Dave, have you solved this yet? I'm having the exact same problem
and error message. My thread is:
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/message/100770
One thing to ensure is that the module you are loading is compiled
with a root tag of mx:Module and not mx:Application or something
Since I posted this last night, I worked on it a little more and figured
a few things out.
My button works because at the end of its click code, it resets the
dataprovider for the second list (list2.dataProvider = blah). If I
don't do this, then the button gives the same visual results as the
Hi Alex,
Thanks for responding. All of my SWFs are local. I output my host
swf to the default \bin directory, I then place my module.swf in that
same directory. And when I specify the url to load within the host
SWF, I use just the name of the module swf:
modLoader.url = module.swf;
Where
You can look the Umap compoent (google maps).
http://www.afcomponents.com/components/g_map_as3/
That component is in beta stage (0.4), in this version you can place marks
and make routes.
You can see a example in:
http://shigeru-nakagaki.com/flex_samples/UMap/UMapTest/UMapTest.html
AND
Mine works when both SWFs are local, or both are from the server. For local,
however, your main application will have to be in a trusted directory, or
the file itself will need to be trusted, via the Global Security Settings
app:
ESRI's AWS is very good and has libraries built just for Flex. I'd
also recommend that as an option. The downside we've experienced
involved some latency issues and a look field that wasn't as sharp
as the competitors.
Tying into Yahoo and Google are the other choices. Google doesn't
have a
I actually entered an enhancement request for this that sounds like it
may happen in a future player update (hard to decipher what the issue
updates actually mean). If you want to vote for it this is the link:
http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/SDK-13763
As for workarounds, Alex suggested that
Thanks! I had not done that. But, after I did, I still get the same
problem. I'll keep working on it
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Dave Glasser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mine works when both SWFs are local, or both are from the server.
For local,
however, your main application
I just realized that I ran the test with the interface that DID have the
checkbox, which is why I got that error with type coercion. Running the
test again with the interface that's missing the checkbox, got me the
same error as before, 1065: Variable myVar is not defined.
From:
What I mean is, why are you doing it this way? Two script files - you
mean each MXML app uses the same class definition? Why can't you define
the variable in both files? Or why insist on sharing the class between
both? If the class has specifics to one application, it should not be
shared
I tried that, and it tells me the variable is undefined and cannot test
it. Which doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense. I tried your method
first, and don't understand why it's not working.
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Behalf Of
Why is it undefined in the first place?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
GTO LLD Solutions Design Development
eTools Multimedia
Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
to test whether a variable exists or not
if(varName)
trace('exists');
else
trace('does not exist');
Clinton D. Judy wrote On 01/31/2008 05:34 PM:
No other explanation needed, really. How do I see if an
object/variable exists before I test other conditions of it?
Unnecessary explanation: I
I get this: 1012: Variables of type CheckBox cannot be undefined. The
value undefined will be type coerced to CheckBox before comparison.
Hmm...
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Behalf Of Merrill, Jason
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:39 AM
To:
No other explanation needed, really. How do I see if an object/variable
exists before I test other conditions of it?
Unnecessary explanation: I use two completely separate mxml interfaces
that both use one as script file. One program is just missing some
information that the other one has. I'd
Have you tried checking for myVar != undefined?
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
GTO LLD Solutions Design Development
eTools Multimedia
Bank of America Flash Platform Developer Community
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL
In one interface, there's a checkbox that doesn't exist in the other
interface. They both reference the same script file, which tests the
checkbox's selected variable. I'm getting an error with the interface
that's lacking, because the script is trying to test a checkbox that's
undefined in the
ok then try this;
try{
varName;
trace('variable exists');
}catch(e:Error){
trace('variable does not exist');
}
Clinton D. Judy wrote On 01/31/2008 05:53 PM:
I tried that, and it tells me the variable is undefined and cannot test
it. Which doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense.
These programs reveal sensitive information to the user. I have two
different interfaces that get compiled into two different programs, and
access is controlled to either one. The interface that's lacking the
checkbox is designed to show different data to less secure users. I'm
using one script
This is something I too wonder about from time to time. I notice alot
of developers are using the ArrayCollection for data binding but I
can't say with 100% confidence why one would be used in any specific
problem domain opposed to a basic array. I guess if you find you want
to use the functions
On Thursday 31 Jan 2008, Clinton D. Judy wrote:
I just realized that I ran the test with the interface that DID have the
checkbox,
Why not have a flag to indicate weather the check box is to be created or not,
and reference that ?
Failing that, you can loop over rawChildren or something, at a
You could add a method to both interfaces, like isCheckboxDefined(), and let
the script decide upon that.
Another solution would be a more polymorphic approach. Let the script
delegate to the interface the custom behavior, and let each interface (or
the .as it extends) know what to do.
Another
Now I'm sure there's a nice easy way to wire these objects into the
global event space
or whatever it's called, I just don't know what it is.
Have you looked at any Actionscript frameworks like Cairngorm? I'm
learning it now, it makes managing events application wide a lot easier.
Jason
Hi Giles,
Note sure what you are exactly looking for but if Flex 3 is an option for you,
ILOG Elixir Maps can position objects by long/lat.
See:
http://visudemos.ilog.com/webdemos/sales/sales.html
for a demo.
Hope this helps,
--
Christophe
http://elxir.ilog.com
Giles Roadnight wrote:
Hi
These all seem like workarounds to me, if the UI is written in such a
way that it is that tightly coupled to the class, then you shouldn't be
trying to make the same class work with different interfaces/apps. I
know that isn't what you want to hear though.
Jason Merrill
Bank of America
GTO
I've seemed to fix a lot of my problems, simple by declaring my own
WebService, instead of useing the mxml version of WebService. I.e.
use mx.rpc.soap.WebService NOT mx.rpc.soap.mxml.WebService (declared
in MXML).
I'm even doing this in Cairngorm now, no more MXML declarations, but
instead
On Thursday 31 Jan 2008, Merrill, Jason wrote:
These all seem like workarounds to me, if the UI is written in such a
way that it is that tightly coupled to the class, then you shouldn't be
trying to make the same class work with different interfaces/apps. I
know that isn't what you want to
I've got a client asking me if it's possible to create a sort of video
switcher -- where users choose shots - and then export to a file.
I think something like this is possible in Flash Media Server, but
unsure?
I was still learning Flex and Actionscript from the bottom up when
building this. I thought Flex was the most suitable technology for the
program at the time (still is). If I built it from the ground up today,
I would probably learn to decouple things and attempt a MVC framework
for this.
Hello,
I have a flex 2 app that works fine as it is. It uses a library of
custom components that is currently statically linked in. I would
like to make that library an RSL. I did this the normal way and it
works fine.
What doesn't work is when I try to embed this app inside another app
and
I have the same problem regarding slower performance using arraycollection in
some iterating process.
Then I change it to array , but I get another big problem..memory leak.
I use the array for small iterating process and using arraycollection for larga
data.
To:
What's the button do that logs the user in? Just have that button call
init() instead.
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of srikanth_reddy_007
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:59 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] How can we destroy
Just posted this on my blog, but will repeat here...
Matt
Today I'm getting a nice bit of evidence in the difficulty of having a
long-running public beta. Turns out there's a lot of folks who did not
upgrade from beta 2 to beta 3 even though beta 3 came out well over a
month ago and Flex Builder
I just started playing with Flex a few days ago, and I'm learning as I
go. When it comes to ActionScript and Flash, I'm completely brain dead,
I've never used either one for anything. So, any help or pointers you
can give me will be greatly appreciated.
The Flex app I'm creating is pretty
ActionScript and you would need a DataGrid. I don't think you can do it with a
canvas
- Original Message
From: Eric Cobb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 10:47:01 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Sorting XML Results
I just started playing with
mx:Button click=init() /
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Clinton D. Judy
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:01 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] How can we destroy the chaild in the other
state before moving to the new state.
Hi,
I have an application which has two states - one Login state and
Application state. Once the login is authenticated i move it to
application state and it initializes itself with the init method()
call. After working on the application state when once the session
expires i reset the
ActionScript and you would need a DataGrid. I don't think you can do
it with a canvas
Sherif, no, a canvas is just a container - I think that's why Eric
mentioned it, and so it is perfectly acceptable to be a child of a
ViewStack and show XML results (the results being shown on some other
Hi Garry,
SHORT ANSWER: YES
SLIGHTLY LONGER ANSWER:
You write is it possible to create a sort of video switcher -- where users
choose shots - and then export to a file. As in non-linear video editing?
That is, where the user chooses from any number of pieces of footage, then
selects from the
Bumping this up the list.
Can anyone provide some insight into this problem?
Thanks
Dominic
Does anyone know who or a team I could forward this question to at Adobe
that might be
able to answer this?
Tom Sammons wrote:
Hi everyone,
I know I don't have to handle a remote object call results simply by not
defining the method's result event.
Why would I want to do this? Because I
You might want to try it in Flex 3. All our energy is currently going
into getting Flex 3 out the door, and I don't think we're likely to be
releasing further hotfixes to Flex 2.
Gordon Smith
Adobe Flex SDK Team
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL
no, not quite. Think of my need to be something like Photoshop layers.
I can create a layer, then another, and be able to see the first layer
behind the second.
_
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Sent: Wednesday,
On Jan 31, 2008, at 11:24 AM, grimmwerks wrote:
I've got a client asking me if it's possible to create a sort of video
switcher -- where users choose shots - and then export to a file.
I think something like this is possible in Flash Media Server, but
unsure?
There was another response to
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, shrike6_7 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I have this problem, in this example of the Flex Menu component:
http://dougmccune.com/blog/2007/01/25/vertical-menubar-component
I need to show an alert box on the MenuItem 2-B and MenuItem 3-B
(items with
You should use Array anywhere you don't need binding or events that
indicate changes to the array.
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Behalf Of Teddy Setiawan
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 8:39 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Hi there,
is there an option for ViewStacks similar to creationPolicy='auto' that
removes instances from memory again when the user navigates away from
that particular page?
Thanks - Nils.
Tabindex has nothing to do with the screen reader - tab index refers to
the tabbing between objects with your keyboard (an acessibility issue
for sure).The mask could be throwing it off, not sure what
Screenreader software you are using. I know in the Flash IDE it helps
to use dynamic text
Hi
I have built an application with buttons behind a mask. The buttons
have all the usual accessibility tags on them (name, tabEnabled,
tabIndex) but the screen reader is not reading them out.
The only difference between these buttons and other buttons in the
application is that these are
Hey there,
I am using as3 to add my video object on Stage, I can hear the sound
but not video shows up.. anything wrong?
Thank you
=
private function connectStream():void
{
//var videoHolder:UIComponent = new UIComponent();
stream = new
Of both are local, do not fiddle with appdomain or securitydomain and it
should work.
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of innovativecode
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 7:23 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject:
Is there any way to get the base parameter of the object/embed code
from within my flex app?
So for example, if I set my base to http://www.example.com/test; and
my swf is actually hosted at http://www.example.com/shared;. Is there
any built-in or easy way of getting the base prop?
Sorry, I don't understand the question.
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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Robert Was
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:15 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] setter and dataprovider issues
I make setter/getter
Exactly... When vertical scrollbars are added to a container with a
percentage width, it should report the new width (without the bar) so
that its children resize properly.
--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Josh McDonald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not as I understand clipContent. It just turns
Updatecomplete should work. Depending on when you set the dataprovider
it might get fired more than once.
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Behalf Of learner
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 4:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];
If you comb through the archives you'll see that this topic comes up
once a month. It isn't really a bug and is what we consider to be the
lesser of two evils. If we shrank content area when scrollbars
appeared, what would shrink a child container and cause it to show
scrollbars and all you'd
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