RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [flexcoders] Re: Flex 2 released tomorrow

2006-06-28 Thread Ian Welsh










Any information on the upgrade path for licensed
Flex 1.5 users with maintenance  nothing in the FAQ.



Regards

Ian











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[flexcoders] Re: Flex 2 released tomorrow













FB for Mac is planned for our next real (non-small-updater)
release. Timeframe not yet determined. Feasibility of getting all
the Eclipse issues worked out still not determined J





Matt











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On Behalf Of Max Westen
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 11:32
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released tomorrow











I just
saw it's posted online :)

http://www.adobe.com/flex

You can then download a trail version.
Still nothing on the flexbuilder for OSX..

Cheers,

Max

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 Nothing yet on Adobe's site...
 
 I'm guessing that the release will coincide with the Adobe keynote
here at
 CF United tomorrow morning.
 
 Who all on the list is here in DC for the conference?
 
 Shan
 














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RE: SPAM-LOW: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess

2006-01-06 Thread Ian Welsh
Thanks Tom. Like João, I am interested in the mechanics of track
changes/sync/persist process.

You asked How do you envision a CFC backend to Flex2 Data services?. I am
hoping that FDS will allow multiple approaches to a CFC backend as, as we
all know, there is no one method or framework for writing a persistence
layer in CF.

For example if you take a look at the FDS section of Christophe Coenraets'
FES overview, here:

http://labs.macromedia.com/wiki/index.php/Flex_Enterprise_Services:overview#
Flex_Data_Service_2

It is very easy to imagine the backend CF code that could be used instead of
the java code in his example, i.e. in flex-services.xml

destination id=contact
   adapter ref=CF-DAO/
   properties
   metadata
   identity property=contactId/
   /metadata
   server
   assembler
   classPATH.TO.MY.DAO.CFC/class
   singletontrue/singleton
   /assembler
   fill-method
   nameloadContact/name
   /fill-method
   sync-method
   namesyncContacts/name
   /sync-method
   /server
   /properties
/destination

Just two changes, and then instead of a ContactAssembler java class you have
a CFC containing the various methods (fill, sync, etc); and within each of
these methods you could have either simple persistence code (e.g. direct
cfquery calls) or more complex code such as integration with your
persistence framework of choice (e.g. Reactor/ARF). Even the sync method is
straightforward as after all we used to have to do this sort of thing when
handling the multiple changes from the old CFGRID java applet.

As I said, it is easy to imagine basic persistence BUT what is harder to
envisage are the things João mentions and others. For example;

- Complex data objects  nested destinations

- What do we need to do on the CF/data side to help FDS keep track of
changes/dirty records (e.g.. do we need to make sure all CFC instances have
a 'dirty' attribute or do we need to have a modified date on the database
record.

- How do we notify FDS of outside data changes, for example from other
presentation layers perhaps, but not necessarily, using the same CFC
persistence layer, within or without a framework (e.g. ModelGlue). Perhaps
by FMS and CF event gateways?

- How will paging work

- The usual type casting issues

All of the above, I imagine, need to be tackled for all of the other FDS
adapters too.

Thanks again Tom, any further information is gratefully received.

One last thing - I do think it is very important that when Flex 2 and/or
Enterprise Services is finally released, that it include a CF FDS adapter.
Not only is it important to us Cfers but I think it also sends a wider
message that Adobe is beginning to exploit the synergies between products
(Flex  CF) in its portfolio.

Regards
Ian


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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom Jordahl
Sent: 05 January 2006 18:35
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: SPAM-LOW: [flexcoders] Re: Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a
Guess

Hello,

I am working on the ColdFusion MX 7 and Flex2 integration.  Here is what we
currently have scheduled to be available around the same time as the next
Flex2 beta.

- An update to the CFC Adapter that is currently available on Macromedia
labs.  This is mainly bug fixes, and updates to stay in sync with the
current Flex2 code.

- A CF Event Gateway Adapter for Flex2 and Flex Asynchronous Event Gateway
for CFMX7.  These two pieces together allow you to publish and subscribe to
Flex Enterprise Services destinations from a ColdFusion Component.  You
can publish messages from a Flex client that a CFC will receive.  You can
publish messages from CFML code that a Flex client can see.  For an idea on
how this can be used, see the Flex JMS (Java Messaging Service) Adapter
example.  This is for Async Messaging and does not integrate ColdFusion with
Flex Data Services (see below).

So the major new piece here is integration with the publish/subscribe
functionality in the Flex2 Messaging services.

We are also looking to create an adapter that will enable a ColdFusion
Component to be the back end to the Flex Data Services layer, similar to the
way Java Objects can currently be used.  I don't expect this to be available
at the same time as the next beta, but miracles can happen. :)  Rest assured
that we want to get this kind of functionality into your hands and get as
much feedback on it as we can.

FYI, we also are hard at work on some CF-specific Flex Builder 2
productivity extensions that should dramatically increase the productivity
of RIA construction for CF customers, and make the leap to RIA development
for CF customers new to RIA with Flex2 a super easy, fun and productive
experience, but more on that later :)  

Questions:
- Do you think you can use the pub/sub functionality as described?
- How do you envision a CFC backend to Flex2 Data services?

--
Tom 

RE: [flexcoders] Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess

2006-01-05 Thread Ian Welsh
Ditto.

We are also very interested in CF7 Enterprise/Flex 2 DS integration?

Can anyone from the team give a high-level view of the 'mechanics' or how it
is being tackled on the CF side. For example, will the adapter have in-built
integration with existing java (e.g. hibernate) or CF (e.g. Reactor/ARF)
persistence frameworks or will it just provide hooks to make it easier for
us to do the integration, or 

I remember a note to this list, I think from David Mendels, that suggested
that the CF team might post details of what they are up to.

Regards
Ian


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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of João Fernandes
Sent: 05 January 2006 00:01
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess

I have the same concern about Flex 2 DS + CF Enterprise. It would be lovely
if Adobe (still find weird this name) could post some samples of Flex2DS
with CFAdapter like they did for the Java Connector.

Even if I have to wait 3-5 weeks (or more) I could see if any of the current
CRUD frameworks could go with it.

João Fernandes
Secção de Desenvolvimento
Departamento de Informática


-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Vinny Timmermans
Sent: Wed 04-Jan-06 11:15 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Beta Flex 2 release Date?  Any one for a Guess
 
Hi David,
 
I am working on an Flex 2 /CFMX7 Enterprise project and my main concern at
the moment is whether the Flex Enterprise Gateway beta for CF, announced at
MAX, will be released at the same time as the Flex Enterprise Services beta.
In other words, can we get our hands dirty connecting the new Flex 2
Dataservices with CFMX 7 Enterprise in a straightforward way in 3-5 weeks? 
 
Best,
 
Vinny


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Behalf Of David Mendels
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To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Beta Flex 2 release Date? Any one for a Guess


Hi all,
 
Good to hear you are eager.  The team is hard at work.  The next beta will
be a big leap forward.  I am not going to give a specific date or commit to
anything...we need to make sure the beta is ready before we ship it, but I
would expect it in 3-5 weeks. NO guarantee.
 
In the meantime, I'd love to hear more about what kinds of projects you are
working on for Flex 2, were you using Flex 1.X or is this your first Flex
project, nature of team, high level impressions, concerns, etc.
 
Regards,
David
Adobe


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Same here, I have a development team waiting for that Beta

 


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Behalf Of sufibaba
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Hi All,

Can anyone give an estimate on when Flex 2 will be released?  It doesn't
have to be a final word, just an approximate time.  We are working on a Flex
2 project that is being slowed to a halt do the many bugs in Flex Alpha.  

Sincerely,

Tim








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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Is Flex Mature ?

2005-11-29 Thread Ian Welsh





OT sorry - On Agile Development ...

Interesting article in IT Week (a UK computer industry 
weekly) that mentions how .Net teams at Microsoft are beginning to use Agile 
techniques and SCRUM to help them address the complaint that Microsoft software 
releases are too far apart - they hope to get down to 12-18 month cycles. The 
article mentions daily team meetings with pairs of programmersdetailed to 
complete small defined 'problems'.

Not sure how big their teams are 

Regards
Ian


From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
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WebsterSent: 28 November 2005 16:42To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Re: Is Flex Mature 
?


Jason,

There's not really a whole lot I can add to your 
post. But to address a couple of your points:

 characteristics. I was curious if those 
projects have resulted in production (released) software, and if the 
companies could be publicly cited? 

The very nature of projects of this size, is such 
that their release schedules are not in the days or weeks ahead. Or in the 
past. So I'm afraid, I can't cite client names, or describe their projects 
in any degree of detail. I'd love to - and perhaps these companies will 
step forth on the list and discuss their own implementations; but I don't 
necessarily expect them to. 

My apologies.
 I¹m very conflicted by your positioning in 
this response, and that¹s why I¹m asking you if you can remove the veil 
on these clients you reference. The terms ³agile practices² and 
30+ developers are paradoxical, wouldn¹t you agree? Agile, by 
definition, is about developing software in short iterations of 1 to 4 
weeks. 9 women can¹t have a baby in 1 month, no matter what they 
try. Likewise, I can¹t imagine the project management nightmare of 
having 30 developers crank out iterations in 1 to 4 weeks. 

I didn't say that 30 developers were all working on 
the same iteration of development. Careful application architecture, a 
well-defined framework for development, good coding standards, collective 
ownership, a strong emphasis on unit-testing and continuous integration, all 
enable the modularisation of a project of this size into a number of almost 
concurrent mini-projects, each of which can be delivered by "agile 
teams".

In a specific project we're engaged with right now, 
the developers within the organisation are all engaged in parallel iterations of 
development, on different modules of the same overall application.

Each teams' iterations are aligned, each team 
continously integrates into the same code-base, yet the average team size 
working on any given iteration is within the magic numbers that you rightly 
specify - 4-6 people. I've personally worked on agile teams as big as 10 
developers, with 4-week iterations, and would agree that this is getting to as 
big a team-size as you'd be comfortable with.

 Agile development promotes face to 
face communication over written documents. That must be one helluva 
meeting room to have 30 developers ~LOL~. 

There is a pragmatic approach here; each 
team(working on their own iteration) 
has a morning standup meeting with their 
4-6 developers. Meanwhile, a representative of each team engages in 
a company-wide standup meeting with the business stakeholders. This ensures the necessary granularity of 
team-wide discussion while ensuring that teams are aware of project-level issues 
and opportunities.

This allows the agile approach to 
scale.

And just to be 
clear; I'm not suggesting ever that agile development is the only way to deliver 
these projects. Other teams have their own methodologies, based on their 
own experiences, and they'll work for them. But agile works for 
us.

 Agile development contends that 
customers and engineers work together in a single workspace, some refer 
to it as the ³bullpen² though we always preferred the term Bat 
Cave! 30 engineers plus customers in one space doing 1 to 4 week 
iterations? Perhaps these folks are doing pair programming (!) so there 
are really only 15 engineers on the project ~LOL~.

The approach to pair-progamming is also pragmatic, 
on a story by story basis. And yes, there is a customer on-site to whom 
the development team have permanent access. I¹m not looking to 
pick a fight with this post, but merely inquiring about the feasibility 
for you and your team to publish white papers that back these positions 
up.

When I propose whitepapers, I'm proposing 
technical whitepapers around unit-testing, continuous integration, architecture 
of large Flex applications, 
etc.

There are other books/whitepapers that cover agile 
development in large teams; it's not high on my priority, nor do I feel 
particularly compelled, to "back the position up". 

With regards to the remainder of your email, 
casting doubt on the existence of the projects that I'm mentioning here, I'm 
afraid there's little more response I'm prepared to enter into here. I'm 
not presenting my findings to a 

RE: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword on RemoteObject

2005-11-14 Thread Ian Welsh
If you are using the new Flex 2 Coldfusion Adapter and CF7, use
remoteObjectID.setUsernamePassword(username, password) and in CF you'll see
them in the cflogin scope #cflogin.name# #cflogin.password#

Hope this helps
Ian


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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Lesser
Sent: 14 November 2005 15:44
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword on RemoteObject

Picking up on an old thread from back in July, where calling addHeader on a
NetConnection object got authentication working with Coldfusion 
when I try to do the same thing in Flex 2 Alpha 1, I get:

code: NetConnection.Call.Failed and description: HTTP: Failed

Does anyone know if addHeader is still supposed to be available, if its a
bug, or if the parameters have changed?
 
Yours truly,
-Brian

Credentials sent in custom manner are never sent using HTTP Headers. The
information is contained within the AMF/HTTP POST body.

The Flex-only API, setUsernamePassword, works on a per request basis and
sends credential information inside a special Flex Envelope type which can
have per-request headers. The legacy Flash Remoting setCredentials API
worked on a per AMF packet basis (which potentially contained a batch of
several requests as per NetConnection) and was sent as an AMF Header. Either
way, you can only have one J2EE or CF session per connection, and
connections are pooled on endpoint URI in Flex. So it should be fine for you
to use the old setCredentials() API in most cases.

You could just call setCredentials() on the RemoteObject connection property
yourself... it simply sets an AMF Header on the underlying NetConnection
with an anonymous object that has two properties 'userid'
and 'password'.

addHeader(Credentials, false, {userid: userId, password:
password});


-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL mailto:%5BEMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Andrew Spaulding
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 3:16 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword on RemoteObject

Thanks Vinny,

Im assuming theres no workaround for this? Im probably just gonna pass the
username and password as variables with each call then. Im using the
cairngorm framework and I have a delegate super class so I can hide it all
in there ;)

cheers,

Andrew Spaulding
www.flexdaddy.info



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Vinny Timmermans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 This is a known bug in Flex 1.5. The setUsernamePassword API is not 
 connected to CFLOGIN. Hope they will fix it in Flex 2.
 
 Vinny
 
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 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL mailto:%5BEMAIL 
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On
 Behalf Of Andrew Spaulding
 Sent: dinsdag 5 juli 2005 04:38
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword on RemoteObject
 
 Hi,
 
 I'm trying to use the flash remoting setCredentials equivalent in
flex to
 send a username and password with my remote object requests. 
 
 I can see the Credentials being set in the header when i view the
traffic in
 the netConnectionDebugger, but nothing seems to be in the http
header, and
 hence is not picked up in cflogin
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Andrew Spaulding
 www.flexdaddy.info
 
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RE: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword on RemoteObject

2005-11-14 Thread Ian Welsh
I *think* you will be out of luck with Flex2 as I think they have made
changes to remoteobject/AMF which require the new CF adapter (if you use
Coldfusion) or Flex Enterprise Services. In essence, with Flex 2, it seems
that remoteobject and the associated speed enhancements of AMF are only
available to 'Enterprise' users and/or us CF'ers.

Maybe someone from MM can clarify but I think you will have to look at
'ordinary' web services if you must use Flex2 without the CF Adapter and
CF7.

Regards
Ian

-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Brian Lesser
Sent: 14 November 2005 17:44
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword on RemoteObject

Thanks Ian,
I'm trying to make remoting calls without the adapter and other classes. 
I think I should be able to do this with NetConnection alone but have not
been able to make addHeader work for authentication to Coldfusion from Flex
2.
Yours truly,
-Brian

Ian Welsh wrote:

If you are using the new Flex 2 Coldfusion Adapter and CF7, use 
remoteObjectID.setUsernamePassword(username, password) and in CF you'll 
see them in the cflogin scope #cflogin.name# #cflogin.password#

Hope this helps
Ian


-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
Behalf Of Brian Lesser
Sent: 14 November 2005 15:44
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword on RemoteObject

Picking up on an old thread from back in July, where calling addHeader 
on a NetConnection object got authentication working with Coldfusion
when I try to do the same thing in Flex 2 Alpha 1, I get:

code: NetConnection.Call.Failed and description: HTTP: Failed

Does anyone know if addHeader is still supposed to be available, if its 
a bug, or if the parameters have changed?
 
Yours truly,
-Brian

Credentials sent in custom manner are never sent using HTTP Headers. 
The information is contained within the AMF/HTTP POST body.

The Flex-only API, setUsernamePassword, works on a per request basis 
and sends credential information inside a special Flex Envelope type 
which can have per-request headers. The legacy Flash Remoting 
setCredentials API worked on a per AMF packet basis (which potentially 
contained a batch of several requests as per NetConnection) and was 
sent as an AMF Header. Either way, you can only have one J2EE or CF 
session per connection, and connections are pooled on endpoint URI in 
Flex. So it should be fine for you to use the old setCredentials() API in
most cases.

You could just call setCredentials() on the RemoteObject connection 
property yourself... it simply sets an AMF Header on the underlying 
NetConnection with an anonymous object that has two properties 'userid'
and 'password'.

addHeader(Credentials, false, {userid: userId, password:
password});


-Original Message-
From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL mailto:%5BEMAIL 
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Spaulding
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 3:16 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: setUsernamePassword on RemoteObject

Thanks Vinny,

Im assuming theres no workaround for this? Im probably just gonna pass 
the username and password as variables with each call then. Im using 
the cairngorm framework and I have a delegate super class so I can hide 
it all in there ;)

cheers,

Andrew Spaulding
www.flexdaddy.info



--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Vinny Timmermans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  

This is a known bug in Flex 1.5. The setUsernamePassword API is not 
connected to CFLOGIN. Hope they will fix it in Flex 2.

Vinny

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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL mailto:%5BEMAIL 
PROTECTED]


On
  

Behalf Of Andrew Spaulding
Sent: dinsdag 5 juli 2005 04:38
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] setUsernamePassword on RemoteObject

Hi,

I'm trying to use the flash remoting setCredentials equivalent in


flex to
  

send a username and password with my remote object requests. 

I can see the Credentials being set in the header when i view the


traffic in
  

the netConnectionDebugger, but nothing seems to be in the http


header, and
  

hence is not picked up in cflogin

Any ideas?

Andrew Spaulding
www.flexdaddy.info



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RE: [flexcoders] Yahoo Maps built with Flex!

2005-11-03 Thread Ian Welsh
And no United Kingdom - sob, sob.

Ian 

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Behalf Of Weyert de Boer
Sent: 03 November 2005 14:42
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Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Yahoo Maps built with Flex!

Their are some minor issues with it :-) Such as, NaN in the Local Event
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RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 Alpha is here???

2005-10-17 Thread Ian Welsh
Yep, I got the CF adapter OK (not installed it yet).

Do you want me to email it to you direct (451k)?

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Sent: 17 October 2005 12:13
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Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 Alpha is here???

I just installed right now, this is the time I love jetlag so much, It's 4
AM in Anaheim and I can already play with it before the conference :D

BTW, did anyone downloaded the cf plugin? I got an error

João Fernandes
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Sent: Mon 17-Oct-05 8:58 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 Alpha is here???
 
First thing we see in the 15' demo is the 'design' view, lot of people said
it wouldn't be there.
I hope it's less buggy than FB 1.5 ;)))
 
Philippe Maegerman



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Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 Alpha is here???


Right, I am from India for last one week I am in US...How can I forget that
it's already Monday in that part of world...bad :)
 
BTW! While you are playing with Flex 2.0 and you need to something. In your
posts please mention any word that let us know that it is Flex 2.0 specific
query..That would really help everyone..
 
 
Thanks
 
-abdul



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On 10/17/05, Abdul Qabiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Wohoo...
 
I didn't know that, I was thinking it would be out on monday :)



Well, it's been Monday here for hours ;-)


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RE: SPAM-LOW: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 Alpha is here???

2005-10-17 Thread Ian Welsh
Have you got a private email to save me sending it to the list?

Regards
Ian 

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Sent: 17 October 2005 13:27
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PLEAS !!!  ;) I'm dying for it


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Sent: Mon 17-Oct-05 12:44 PM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW:  RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 Alpha is here???
 
Yep, I got the CF adapter OK (not installed it yet).

Do you want me to email it to you direct (451k)?

Regards
Ian 


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Sent: 17 October 2005 12:13
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: SPAM-LOW: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 Alpha is here???

I just installed right now, this is the time I love jetlag so much, It's 4
AM in Anaheim and I can already play with it before the conference :D

BTW, did anyone downloaded the cf plugin? I got an error

João Fernandes
Secção de Desenvolvimento
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From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Philippe Maegerman
Sent: Mon 17-Oct-05 8:58 AM
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 Alpha is here???
 
First thing we see in the 15' demo is the 'design' view, lot of people said
it wouldn't be there.
I hope it's less buggy than FB 1.5 ;)))
 
Philippe Maegerman



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Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 Alpha is here???


Right, I am from India for last one week I am in US...How can I forget that
it's already Monday in that part of world...bad :)
 
BTW! While you are playing with Flex 2.0 and you need to something. In your
posts please mention any word that let us know that it is Flex 2.0 specific
query..That would really help everyone..
 
 
Thanks
 
-abdul



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On 10/17/05, Abdul Qabiz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Wohoo...
 
I didn't know that, I was thinking it would be out on monday :)



Well, it's been Monday here for hours ;-)


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RE: [flexcoders] Re: FLEX Licenses for sale - FLEX 2.0 Enterprise upgrade included

2005-10-12 Thread Ian Welsh
MM announced they will release Flex 2.0 in the first half of 2006.

Let's all hope that it is prior to 31/03/06 as, I imagine, there are a few
people like us who bought Flex in late March 2005 to beat the price rise on
01/04/2005. 

Flex then came with a year's subscription included so this may have run out
if Flex 2 is released after 1/4/2006. I bet there will be a few people
keeping their fingers crossed! 

Fortunately we bought an extra year's subscription, so as long as they
release Flex 2 before 31/3/2007 we'll be OK - but then we'll be fretting
about Flex 3 release dates ;-)

Regards
Ian


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upgrade included

The Gold support is for 6 months. You are entitled to 12 months of free
upgrades. MM announced they will release Flex 2.0 in the first half of 2006.

Thank you,
Alex

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  But if its a 6 month gold subscription... do you think in 6
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  Macromedia has not announced a release date so...
 
 Didn't they say early 2006? And besides, if the subscription did 
 expire before then, it would be wise to renew.
 
 
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[flexcoders] Flex 2 Flash Player 8.5

2005-10-06 Thread Ian Welsh





Some 
news!

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/flex/articles/flex2_intro.html

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[flexcoders] Flex 2 Coldfusion

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Potentially more good news on the way for us CF 
ers!

http://www.dcooper.org/blog//client/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=C5F562CA-4E22-1671-5A8DFF99CA132F36

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[flexcoders] Interesting news on Zorn

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from Mike Chambers 
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http://weblogs.macromedia.com/mesh/archives/2005/08/will_zorn_requi.cfm






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RE: [flexcoders] JPG delivery via Java-App

2005-06-21 Thread Ian Welsh
To avoid having to save the image from the database to a physical file as an
intermediate step you could try streaming the data from the database
directly into the http request of the mx:image tag as Abdul suggests

So, 
1. Create a java/actionscript VO mapping that includes the image name as a
sting.
2. After Flex has received the VO, trigger an event that request the image
from the database either via an intermediate physical file save or directly
streamed into the http request.

Two requests for data instead of one, but it would get you the image.

Hope this helps.

Regards
Ian


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Subject: RE: [flexcoders] JPG delivery via Java-App

Hi,

Macromedia Flash Player doesn't have byte[] or its equivalent data type to
store the binary data within AS. But you can load JPEG/SWF files using
Loader/Image Flex classes or loadMovie(..) Flash Player API. If I am right,
you want to load a JPG image in Flex app right?

You can do that using Loader or Image tag

mx:Image source=http://server.com/myservlet?imagename=logo; /


Image/Loader can load non-progressive JPG and SWF files.

-abdul



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Subject: [flexcoders] JPG delivery via Java-App

Hi there,

I searched a lot of time for a solution of my problem in other forums,
documentations an so on. But I didn't find any hint so far, thus you are my
last hope.
The problem is as follows:
I have a Java-Servlet or a Java-Class, which retrieves an image (JPG) from a
database. As customary this Blob is stored in a byte array (byte []). The
Flex-Application connects to the Java application to request the image. My
problem is now to find a suitable datatype, which can store binary data in
ActionScript. This means, I need a corresponding data type in ActionScript,
which fits to byte[] in Java.

Or does possibly anyone know a completely different solution for my problem?

Thanks for answers
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RE: [flexcoders] Macromedia aligns with Eclipse

2005-06-06 Thread Ian Welsh
David, the announcements today are great news but I noticed in this article
 
http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=164300480
 
This week Macomedia will preview its next-generation Flash player,
code-named Maelstrom, due to beta this summer and slated to ship by year's
end. 
 
I understood (perhaps mistakenly) that Maelstrom (with 8Ball?) was slated
for a late Summer release. 

The last financial results Breeze presentation mentioned a significant tools
release (was it Studio?) at that time.

Can you shed any light on these release dates?

Regards
Ian



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Hi Clint,
 
What would you like to hear from Macromedia?  Happy to discuss this stuff to
the extent that we can.  
 
There is a lot of info on our site today, some press releases and two new
whitepapers:
 
http://www.macromedia.com/platform/whitepapers/platform_overview.pdf
 
http://www.macromedia.com/platform/whitepapers/architecture_tier.pdf
 
Exciting times :)
 
-David




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Subject: [flexcoders] Macromedia aligns with Eclipse


Thought I'd start a thread on this see if I could get an
official response from someone @ MM or anyone else that has details on this.
 

http://news.com.com/Macromedia+aligns+with+Eclipse/2100-1032_3-5730781.html?
tag=alert
 
 
sidenote I wonder how this will affect the .NET + Flex plans.
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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Weird behavior with Internet Explorer

2005-04-07 Thread Ian Welsh

João, can I just clarify - does the problem you experienced only happen with
a CF and Flex on the same context root and with XP SP2 clients? Are you
using CF6.1 or 7? Just thinking ahead to an install I am about to do.

Thanks
Ian

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Sent: 07 April 2005 17:09
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Weird behavior with Internet Explorer



Indeed,

It works fine now for every browser... Will this be fixed or Should I always
append a querystring to it?

anyways, thank you very much for this.


João Fernandes


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Peter Farland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hmm, I'm trying to think of other known issues with Flex and CF in
the same app. This may be a long shot, but I'll tell you about it anyway...
 
 
 Can you try appending some dummy query data such as ?a=b to the
end your RemoteObject endpoint URI (if it doesn't have one already).
 
 i.e. if your RemoteObject endpoint is something like:
 
   /cfmx/flashservices/gateway
 
 change it to:
 
   /cfmx/flashservices/gateway?a=b
 
 The reason is that CFMX may be using standard J2EE session
management rather than CFID/CFTOKEN. Perhaps your IE browser is sending some
header (or not sending some header) that makes CFMX or the J2EE application
container think you don't have cookie support. In this case, it is trying to
send back an AMF Response Header to tell the client to append some
;jsessionid info to the URL so that on your next request it can maintain
your session.
 
 When this AppendToGatewayUrl AMF response header is sent back, it is
literally concatenated to the end of your endpoint. So it might look like
this:
 
 /cfmx/flashservices/gateway;jessionid=DHDKJHER849527456845
 
 While this is fine according to the J2EE servlet specification, this
can cause problems with  J2EE connectors (such as JRun's) and web servers
such as IIS. Adding some query info to the URL:
 
 /cfmx/flashservices/gateway?a=b;jessionid=DHDKJHER849527456845
 
 seems to satisfy the connector/IIS condition.
 
 You could prove this by first watching the AMF traffic to see if
such a header was being sent or second, sniffing the network traffic to see
that a Not Allowed HTTP error was being sent during the failure.
 
 I know this is a server side issue and I know you said this only
happens in MSIE, but perhaps SP2 changes the default cookie settings for IE
only? 
 
 If you need a network sniffer, there's tons out there - JRun ships
with a sniffer.exe which is useful for server side sniffing. Paros Proxy is
an excellent client side proxy that also handles tracing HTTPS traffic
coming to your browser.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: joao_m_fernandes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:36 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Weird behavior with Internet Explorer
 
 
 
 noup,
 
 Using http as protocol. 
 
 I just tried out our old server and It works...
 The only thing it's diferent from one to the other is that the working 
 one has cfusion and flex in diferent context roots and in this one I 
 managed to put flex with cf...
 
 Everything works fine for any browser excepting IE. 
 
 I'm getting Flex and Cfusion in different context root, too bad that I 
 can't use it under the same.
 
 João Fernandes
 
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Peter Farland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Are you using HTTPS?
   
  
  -Original Message-
  From: joao_m_fernandes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:32 AM
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Weird behavior with Internet Explorer
  
  
  
  Matt,
  
  I tested several browsers in diferent machines (inside domain or 
  outside of it).
  
  Opera works fine as firefox.
  IE with no domain policies applied
  
  IE 6.0 2800 on a server works fine.
  IE 6.0 2800 or 2900 in WinXP SP2, doesn't work.
  The first call to authenticate works but after that, no more 
  remoting available.
  
  I don't have any machine without sp2 for testing but It seems to be 
  that the problem.
  All connections are made directly without going to proxy servers.
  
  This can be a very big problem since our main browser is IE under 
  SP2 machines (talking about at least 600 machines).
  
  João Fernandes
  
  
  
  
  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   As Manish said you probably want to check the network monitor. 
Is it
   possible IE is setup differently than Firefox?  Maybe you have 
   proxy settings or something?  I used SP2 all the time and don't 
   tend
to have
   problems.
   

   
   Matt
   

   
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   Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 8:28 AM
   To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
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   Hi there,
   
   does anyone know any kind of limitation with 

RE: [flexcoders] Additional Code generated in the jsp

2005-04-07 Thread Ian Welsh





I believe Flex uses this iframe to keep track of history 
(i.e. lets the user use the browser's 'Back' button) within your Flex 
application.

Regards
Ian


From: Pushkar Phatak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2005 18:16To: 
flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Additional Code 
generated in the jsp

Hello,I was formatting the the output for an application. 
The MXML file is embedded in the body /body tags as shown 
below

body 
bgcolor="#33" %@ taglib uri="FlexTagLib" 
prefix="mm" % mm:mxml 
source="Main.mxml"//body

The resulting "generated" code at run time is this.. (end of the mail for 
more questions
table width='100%' height='100%' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0'trtd valign='top'
script language='_javascript_' charset='utf-8' src='/samples/flex-internal?action="">/script
noscript
object classid='clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-44455354' codebase='http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=7,0,14,0' width='100%' height='400'
id='Main.mxml.swf'

  param name='flashvars' value='versionChecked=true'
  param name='src' value='Main.mxml.swf'
  embed pluginspage='http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer' width='100%' height='400'
flashvars='versionChecked=true'
src='Main.mxml.swf'
name='Main.mxml.swf'
  /
/object
/noscript
script language='_javascript_' charset='utf-8'
document.write("object classid='' codebase='' width='100%' height='400'");
document.write("id='Main.mxml.swf'");
document.write("");
document.write("  param name='flashvars' value='historyUrl=%2Fsamples%2Fflex%2Dinternal%3Faction%3Dhistory%5Fhtmllconid=" + lc_id +"versionChecked=true'");
document.write("  param name='src' value='Main.mxml.swf'");
document.write("  embed pluginspage='http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer' width='100%' height='400'");
document.write("flashvars='historyUrl=%2Fsamples%2Fflex%2Dinternal%3Faction%3Dhistory%5Fhtmllconid=" + lc_id +"versionChecked=true'");
document.write("src=''");
document.write("name='Main.mxml.swf'");
document.write("  /");
document.write("/object");
/script
script language='_javascript_' charset='utf-8'
document.write("briframe src='' name='_history' frameborder='0' scrolling='no' width='22' height='0'/iframe/br");
/script
/td/tr/tableWhat I dont get is why is there an additioanl iframe generated with the object? (red)The formatting gets killed because of that. I know its probably not a big thing but it would help to know 1. Why the code is being generated2. Can i stop it from generating, if so how3. If i cant stop it from generating, is it possible to somehow hide it?ThanksPushkar







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RE: [flexcoders] Re: Weird behavior with Internet Explorer

2005-04-07 Thread Ian Welsh

Thanks.

Ian 

-Original Message-
From: joao_m_fernandes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 April 2005 18:18
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Weird behavior with Internet Explorer



I was using CFMX7 with Flex 1.5 under the same context root.
With the querystring append it started to work.

For what a said about under IE working on server 2000 I was wrong because I
was pointing to the wrong server and that's why it was working.

It seems to be an IE problem.

Under diferent context root doesn't seem to have any problem at all.
I had cf running onde /cfusion and flex under /flex...

Once again, thanks Peter for this solution,

João Fernandes


--- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Ian Welsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 João, can I just clarify - does the problem you experienced only
happen with
 a CF and Flex on the same context root and with XP SP2 clients? Are 
 you using CF6.1 or 7? Just thinking ahead to an install I am about to do.
 
 Thanks
 Ian
 
 -Original Message-
 From: joao_m_fernandes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 07 April 2005 17:09
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Weird behavior with Internet Explorer
 
 
 
 Indeed,
 
 It works fine now for every browser... Will this be fixed or Should
I always
 append a querystring to it?
 
 anyways, thank you very much for this.
 
 
 João Fernandes
 
 
 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Peter Farland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
  Hmm, I'm trying to think of other known iss

ues with Flex and CF in
 the same app. This may be a long shot, but I'll tell you about it
anyway...
  
  
  Can you try appending some dummy query data such as ?a=b to the
 end your RemoteObject endpoint URI (if it doesn't have one already).
  
  i.e. if your RemoteObject endpoint is something like:
  
  /cfmx/flashservices/gateway
  
  change it to:
  
  /cfmx/flashservices/gateway?a=b
  
  The reason is that CFMX may be using standard J2EE session
 management rather than CFID/CFTOKEN. Perhaps your IE browser is
sending some
 header (or not sending some header) that makes CFMX or the J2EE
application
 container think you don't have cookie support. In this case, it is
trying to
 send back an AMF Response Header to tell the client to append some 
 ;jsessionid info to the URL so that on your next request it can 
 maintain your session.
  
  When this AppendToGatewayUrl AMF response header is sent back, it is
 literally concatenated to the end of your endpoint. So it might look
like
 this:
  
  /cfmx/flashservices/gateway;jessionid=DHDKJHER849527456845
  
  While this is fine according to the J2EE servlet specification, this
 can cause problems with  J2EE connectors (such as JRun's) and web
servers
 such as IIS. Adding some query info to the URL:
  
  /cfmx/flashservices/gateway?a=b;jessionid=DHDKJHER849527456845
  
  seems to satisfy the connector/IIS condition.
  
  You could prove this by first watching the AMF traffic to see if
 such a header was being sent or second, sniffing the network traffic
to see
 that a Not Allowed HTTP error was being sent during the failure.
  
  I know this is a server side issue and I know you said this only
 happens in MSIE, but perhaps SP2 changes the default cookie settings
for IE
 only? 
  
  If you need a network sniffer, there's tons out there - JRun ships
 with a sniffer.exe which is useful for server side sniffing. Paros
Proxy is
 an excellent client side proxy that also handles tracing HTTPS traffic 
 coming to your browser.
  
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: joao_m_fernandes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 10:36 AM
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Weird behavior with Internet Explorer
  
  
  
  noup,
  
  Using http as protocol. 
  
  I just tried out our old server and It works...
  The only thing it's diferent from one to the other is that the
working 
  one has cfusion and flex in diferent context roots and in this one I 
  managed to put flex with cf...
  
  Everything works fine for any browser excepting IE. 
  
  I'm getting Flex and Cfusion in different context root, too bad
that I 
  can't use it under the same.
  
  João Fernandes
  
  
  --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Peter Farland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
   Are you using HTTPS?

   
   -Original Message-
   From: joao_m_fernandes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:32 AM
   To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Weird behavior with Internet Explorer
   
   
   
   Matt,
   
   I tested several browsers in diferent machines (inside domain or 
   outside of it).
   
   Opera works fine as firefox.
   IE with no domain policies applied
   
   IE 6.0 2800 on a server works fine.
   IE 6.0 2800 or 2900 in WinXP SP2, doesn't work.
   The first call to authenticate works but after that, no more 
   remoting available.
   
   I don't have any machine without sp2 for testing but It seems

[flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale

2005-03-31 Thread Ian Welsh





Well, we have just committed to Flex and fortunately beat 
the price rise - paperwork justcompleted with Macromedia 
UK.

First, a big thank you to this list. Whoever started the 
price increase rumour did us a favour. 

We have been prototyping and playing with Flex for a couple 
of months now and have liked what see - both in terms of the 'Richness' Flex can 
bring to the user experience AND the 'Rapid' way we canCODE that 
experience. Of course, we have always known Flex to be (for us) an expensive 
option but, basing our budgeting on the old $12,000 price, we felt that we could 
justify the cost even though we were 'at our limit'. Our financial year ends on 
April 30, and we were planning to buyat the end ofApril and use up 
our budget - thank goodness we didn't wait and were able to secure the old 
pricing.

I say thank goodness because, to be quite honest, we 
wouldNOT have purchased at the new prices and we would have been cursing 
for weeks because of 2 months wasted development effort. I can understand why 
others are 'angry' at the price increase, especially the smaller 
organisations/developers like us. Flex might be an enterprise class product but 
I would suggest you don't have to bea 'deep pocketed' enterprise to make 
good use of it.

When we spoke to Macromedia UK we were told that the old 
(12,000) pricing was 'early adopter' pricing and they confirmed the price 
increase as Lucian has done. I have to say, that if you are discounting a 
product for early adopters, it is normal to say so upfront, indeed it is usually 
done to encourage adoption in an open way. I can't remember Macromedia saying 
the 12,000 price was discounted for early adopters (but I might of missed it), 
so the increase in price now seems an unusual marketing 
tactic.

I hope Flex goes from strength to strength regardless of 
price, and sincerely hope Macromedia haven't killed it via seemingly odd pricing 
decisions.

Anyway, as I said, we have now committed and we look 
forward to many years of happy Flex development. 


Regards
Ian
PS One bit of good news - 
annual maintenance is based on the price you paid for the product, so getting it 
at the 'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future 
years.







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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale

2005-03-31 Thread Ian Welsh

Dirk, that is what I was told (in writing) - maintenance at 20% of the price
you pay (per year).

In fact we bought an additional year's maintenance with our order (the first
year was included). 

Hope this helps.

Regards
Ian


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-Original Message-
From: Dirk Eismann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 31 March 2005 16:00
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost
Sale


I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can
comment:

we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we
decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be
based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that moment in
time?

According to what Ian just wrote I would expect the first, is this right?

Thanks,
Dirk.

 PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on the price you 
 paid for the product, so getting it at the 'old' price means we pay 
 less for maintenance in future years.



 
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Comic Relief - Red Nose Day - Flex

2005-02-10 Thread Ian Welsh



Just noticed in the 
UK computer press that this year's Red Nose Day (national fund raising telethon 
for Comic Relief) has Macromedia as a partner. Red Nose day itself is also being 
billed as the single largest ecommerce event to date.

"It expects over 150 million hits, making it the single biggest 
e-commerce event ever - posing a big challenge for its 
systems."

"The web site 
itself must be able to support a large number of users wanting to make payments 
on it during a very short period. Currently the payment mechanism on the site is 
a holding page generated by payment processing company WorldPay, but Gill said 
that a more sophisticated page would be available on the day.

New media and development directorAmanda 
Horton-Mastin said, "The technology [will] enable us to live-authorise donations 
while all the other exciting online activity is happening. The last Red Nose Day 
campaign received over £3.7m via new media, and Comic Relief hopes to beat this 
total in 2005.""
and isn't this 
the best quote - sums up the advantage of the Flex experience 
...
"Horton-Mastin said, "Most people carrying out a transaction get no 
other return than a good feeling. We have to capitalise on that on the night, 
not at a later date." 
Full Story - http://www.pcw.co.uk/news/1161006

And guesswhat they 
are using Flash and will be using Flex ...

"This campaign will see the use of new content using different 
technologies as the weeks go on, to offer visitors an evolving site. Starting 
with the inclusion of Flash Comms Server - bringing all the advances that it 
enables – then the release of applications enabled by Flex and 
Breeze."

http://www.rednoseday.com/partners/mini-macromedia.shtml

If 
Flex is going to be used as the 'front end' to the online donation process then 
this would be a significant public demonstration of flex.

Go 
Flex!

Regards
Ian



RE: [flexcoders] FLEX - NEW VERSION

2005-02-08 Thread Ian Welsh
We will be talking a lot about the roadmap as we get into the spring and
summer.

Hey, it's already spring over here in the UK - I see Snowdrops everywhere ;)

Seriously a roadmap would be nice. Can you shed any light on: 
1. A 'rich text' editor component?
2. Better printing integration with Flashpaper via CF7 Reporting
3. CFLogin integration with CF7 via RemoteObject?
4. The effect of Flash Player 8

I understand if it is too early ...

Regards
Ian

-Original Message-
From: David Mendels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 08 February 2005 16:38
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] FLEX - NEW VERSION


Hi,

We haven't made any specific announcements. Flex 1.5 just came out last
quarter, so it would be premature to be talking about specific future
release dates at this point. 

Do you have a specific question or request?

Regards,
David
macromedia 

 -Original Message-
 From: goran187 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 8:25 AM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [flexcoders] FLEX - NEW VERSION
 
 
 
 Anyone aware of any timeframe for the new release of Flex/Flex 
 Builder??
 
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RE: [flexcoders] Printing

2005-02-07 Thread Ian Welsh
Hey, what else are you guys working on for Flex 2.0? Now that CF7
(Blackstone) has been released, some of us will need something else to keep
us excited.

There is no harm in asking right?

Regards
Ian 


-Original Message-
From: David Mendels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 07 February 2005 15:59
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Printing


Hello,

 
 Does anyone know if flex printing is going to be improved in the next 
 version of Flex as it's very inadequate for enterprise application 
 development at the moment.


This is absolutely an area we are looking at. It is premature to make any
specific promises, but we would like to see major improvements here too.

Regards,

David
Macromedia




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