[flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale

2005-03-31 Thread Ian Welsh





Well, we have just committed to Flex and fortunately beat 
the price rise - paperwork justcompleted with Macromedia 
UK.

First, a big thank you to this list. Whoever started the 
price increase rumour did us a favour. 

We have been prototyping and playing with Flex for a couple 
of months now and have liked what see - both in terms of the 'Richness' Flex can 
bring to the user experience AND the 'Rapid' way we canCODE that 
experience. Of course, we have always known Flex to be (for us) an expensive 
option but, basing our budgeting on the old $12,000 price, we felt that we could 
justify the cost even though we were 'at our limit'. Our financial year ends on 
April 30, and we were planning to buyat the end ofApril and use up 
our budget - thank goodness we didn't wait and were able to secure the old 
pricing.

I say thank goodness because, to be quite honest, we 
wouldNOT have purchased at the new prices and we would have been cursing 
for weeks because of 2 months wasted development effort. I can understand why 
others are 'angry' at the price increase, especially the smaller 
organisations/developers like us. Flex might be an enterprise class product but 
I would suggest you don't have to bea 'deep pocketed' enterprise to make 
good use of it.

When we spoke to Macromedia UK we were told that the old 
(12,000) pricing was 'early adopter' pricing and they confirmed the price 
increase as Lucian has done. I have to say, that if you are discounting a 
product for early adopters, it is normal to say so upfront, indeed it is usually 
done to encourage adoption in an open way. I can't remember Macromedia saying 
the 12,000 price was discounted for early adopters (but I might of missed it), 
so the increase in price now seems an unusual marketing 
tactic.

I hope Flex goes from strength to strength regardless of 
price, and sincerely hope Macromedia haven't killed it via seemingly odd pricing 
decisions.

Anyway, as I said, we have now committed and we look 
forward to many years of happy Flex development. 


Regards
Ian
PS One bit of good news - 
annual maintenance is based on the price you paid for the product, so getting it 
at the 'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future 
years.







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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale

2005-03-31 Thread Dirk Eismann

I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can comment:

we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we 
decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be 
based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that moment in time?

According to what Ian just wrote I would expect the first, is this right?

Thanks,
Dirk.

 PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on 
 the price you paid for the product, so getting it at the 
 'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future years.



 
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale

2005-03-31 Thread Jeff Steiner

Dirk,

When I talked to my account manager the other day - he told me that the
price you pay is the basis for future maintenance agreements.  I would still
check with yours.

Jeff
http://www.flexauthority.com

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 I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can
comment:

 we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we
decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be
based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that moment in
time?

 According to what Ian just wrote I would expect the first, is this right?

 Thanks,
 Dirk.

  PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on
  the price you paid for the product, so getting it at the
  'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future years.




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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale

2005-03-31 Thread Ian Welsh

Dirk, that is what I was told (in writing) - maintenance at 20% of the price
you pay (per year).

In fact we bought an additional year's maintenance with our order (the first
year was included). 

Hope this helps.

Regards
Ian


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I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can
comment:

we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we
decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be
based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that moment in
time?

According to what Ian just wrote I would expect the first, is this right?

Thanks,
Dirk.

 PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on the price you 
 paid for the product, so getting it at the 'old' price means we pay 
 less for maintenance in future years.



 
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RE: [flexcoders] Flex 1.5 price - A Real Example of a Nearly Lost Sale

2005-03-31 Thread Lucian Beebe

The price for maintenance is based on the price you paid, not any new prices
for new packaging that might be in place at a future date. 

Lucian 

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I've got a question concerning maintenance, maybe someone from MM can
comment:

we bought Flex 1.5 two months ago. When our maintenance period ends and we
decide to extend the maintenance will the price for the new maintenance be
based on the original price (12k) or the product's price at that moment in
time?

According to what Ian just wrote I would expect the first, is this right?

Thanks,
Dirk.

 PS One bit of good news - annual maintenance is based on 
 the price you paid for the product, so getting it at the 
 'old' price means we pay less for maintenance in future years.



 
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