Re: [flexcoders] What is the largest Flex app?
That's an interesting question... because Flex is client side, it's the same as asking about scalable javascript. So when we're talking about scalability issues and flex, the majority of issues will reside on the server. At that point it's the same discussion as every other web technology... php, cf, apache, iis, mysql, sql server. Now... the other issue of scalable flex, would be if your web server can handle all the requests. Then you can get into cloud computing stuff... (s3, ec2, etc...). Anyways, that's my 2ยข Cheers, Nate On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Darrell Ross darrell.r...@enablus.comwrote: In a conversation with the former CTO of a very large media brand, he asked questions re: Flex's ability to scale. In his mind, scale means several million sessions per day. While we discussed some of the Flex charting components which are a part of Yahoo!Finance which see significant daily traffic, those are only components, not a complete app. So, I'm stumped and ask the community, In terms of daily usage, what is the largest complete Flex app? I underscore the term complete. I'm not looking for pieces of apps that have been converted into Flex. I'm seeking out the biggest app where the entire enchilada is deployed as a SWF. Any guesses? Darrell Ross Enablus, LLC www.enablus.com -- Cheers, Nate http://blog.natebeck.net
Re: [flexcoders] What is the largest Flex app?
Flex scales much better than HTML applications. It offloads a huge amount of work from the server to all of the clients and if you're using AMF or RTMP for data it greatly reduces the size of data sent over the wire are compared to HTML. Also AMF and RTMP are faster to serialize so it improves server performance compared to generating HTML. Not hard numbers, but I hope this helps. Thanks, Sam - We're Hiring! Seeking passionate Flex or C# developer in the Washington D.C. Contact care...@blinemedical.com On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Darrell Ross darrell.r...@enablus.comwrote: In a conversation with the former CTO of a very large media brand, he asked questions re: Flex's ability to scale. In his mind, scale means several million sessions per day. While we discussed some of the Flex charting components which are a part of Yahoo!Finance which see significant daily traffic, those are only components, not a complete app. So, I'm stumped and ask the community, In terms of daily usage, what is the largest complete Flex app? I underscore the term complete. I'm not looking for pieces of apps that have been converted into Flex. I'm seeking out the biggest app where the entire enchilada is deployed as a SWF. Any guesses? Darrell Ross Enablus, LLC www.enablus.com
Re: [flexcoders] What is the largest Flex app?
I'd agree with Nate. Flex is irrelevant to scaling. Check back end solutions. I would go for java and not php for example... There are lots of large sites that use php but then again they have monster servers. My experience is that java supports much more concurrent connections than php and that is without load balancing. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Samuel Neff srneff.li...@gmail.comwrote: Flex scales much better than HTML applications. It offloads a huge amount of work from the server to all of the clients and if you're using AMF or RTMP for data it greatly reduces the size of data sent over the wire are compared to HTML. Also AMF and RTMP are faster to serialize so it improves server performance compared to generating HTML. Not hard numbers, but I hope this helps. Thanks, Sam - We're Hiring! Seeking passionate Flex or C# developer in the Washington D.C. Contact care...@blinemedical.com On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Darrell Ross darrell.r...@enablus.comwrote: In a conversation with the former CTO of a very large media brand, he asked questions re: Flex's ability to scale. In his mind, scale means several million sessions per day. While we discussed some of the Flex charting components which are a part of Yahoo!Finance which see significant daily traffic, those are only components, not a complete app. So, I'm stumped and ask the community, In terms of daily usage, what is the largest complete Flex app? I underscore the term complete. I'm not looking for pieces of apps that have been converted into Flex. I'm seeking out the biggest app where the entire enchilada is deployed as a SWF. Any guesses? Darrell Ross Enablus, LLC www.enablus.com -- Fotis Chatzinikos, Ph.D. Founder, Phinnovation fotis.chatzini...@gmail.com,
RE: [flexcoders] What is the largest Flex app?
No serious Flex app that is really big would ever be one single SWF. No serious HTML site would be one giant HTML file with tons of JS in it either. Flex provides mechanisms for loading code as you need it. Adobe's LiveCycle products are betting on Flex to allow for a family of SWFs where almost all the SWFs are Forms used to collect and view data passed around in a workflow. If government or Fortune 100 companies convert all of their paper forms into SWFs the app's size would be immense and probably not measurable as new forms would be added and old ones removed frequently, but I would expect that total bytes over the wire would be less and user productivity would be higher, and development and maintenance costs would be lower than the HTML/JS equivalent. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcod...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Fotis Chatzinikos Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 1:35 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] What is the largest Flex app? I'd agree with Nate. Flex is irrelevant to scaling. Check back end solutions. I would go for java and not php for example... There are lots of large sites that use php but then again they have monster servers. My experience is that java supports much more concurrent connections than php and that is without load balancing. On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:30 PM, Samuel Neff srneff.li...@gmail.commailto:srneff.li...@gmail.com wrote: Flex scales much better than HTML applications. It offloads a huge amount of work from the server to all of the clients and if you're using AMF or RTMP for data it greatly reduces the size of data sent over the wire are compared to HTML. Also AMF and RTMP are faster to serialize so it improves server performance compared to generating HTML. Not hard numbers, but I hope this helps. Thanks, Sam - We're Hiring! Seeking passionate Flex or C# developer in the Washington D.C. Contact care...@blinemedical.commailto:care...@blinemedical.com On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Darrell Ross darrell.r...@enablus.commailto:darrell.r...@enablus.com wrote: In a conversation with the former CTO of a very large media brand, he asked questions re: Flex's ability to scale. In his mind, scale means several million sessions per day. While we discussed some of the Flex charting components which are a part of Yahoo!Finance which see significant daily traffic, those are only components, not a complete app. So, I'm stumped and ask the community, In terms of daily usage, what is the largest complete Flex app? I underscore the term complete. I'm not looking for pieces of apps that have been converted into Flex. I'm seeking out the biggest app where the entire enchilada is deployed as a SWF. Any guesses? Darrell Ross Enablus, LLC www.enablus.comhttp://www.enablus.com -- Fotis Chatzinikos, Ph.D. Founder, Phinnovation fotis.chatzini...@gmail.commailto:fotis.chatzini...@gmail.com,
Re: [flexcoders] What is the largest Flex app?
Flex apps have the advantage of being a static binary and therefore can easily be served from a CDN if you are talking high-traffic apps. So I agree that the issue of scale is less about Flex and more about the back end. But if you just need an example to show your boss, take a look at elfyourself.com. It's 100% Flex and although I can't give numbers, definitely draws the volume of traffic you referred to. Jamie On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Darrell Ross darrell.r...@enablus.com wrote: In a conversation with the former CTO of a very large media brand, he asked questions re: Flex's ability to scale. In his mind, scale means several million sessions per day. While we discussed some of the Flex charting components which are a part of Yahoo!Finance which see significant daily traffic, those are only components, not a complete app. So, I'm stumped and ask the community, In terms of daily usage, what is the largest complete Flex app? I underscore the term complete. I'm not looking for pieces of apps that have been converted into Flex. I'm seeking out the biggest app where the entire enchilada is deployed as a SWF. Any guesses? Darrell Ross Enablus, LLC www.enablus.com
Re: [flexcoders] What is the largest Flex app?
Might as well ask how scalable is explorer.exe? The answer is mu. On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:28 AM, Jamie S jsjph...@gmail.com wrote: Flex apps have the advantage of being a static binary and therefore can easily be served from a CDN if you are talking high-traffic apps. So I agree that the issue of scale is less about Flex and more about the back end. But if you just need an example to show your boss, take a look at elfyourself.com. It's 100% Flex and although I can't give numbers, definitely draws the volume of traffic you referred to. Jamie On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Darrell Ross darrell.r...@enablus.com wrote: In a conversation with the former CTO of a very large media brand, he asked questions re: Flex's ability to scale. In his mind, scale means several million sessions per day. While we discussed some of the Flex charting components which are a part of Yahoo!Finance which see significant daily traffic, those are only components, not a complete app. So, I'm stumped and ask the community, In terms of daily usage, what is the largest complete Flex app? I underscore the term complete. I'm not looking for pieces of apps that have been converted into Flex. I'm seeking out the biggest app where the entire enchilada is deployed as a SWF. Any guesses? Darrell Ross Enablus, LLC www.enablus.com -- Flexcoders Mailing List FAQ: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/flexcoders/files/flexcodersFAQ.txt Alternative FAQ location: https://share.acrobat.com/adc/document.do?docid=942dbdc8-e469-446f-b4cf-1e62079f6847 Search Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexcoders%40yahoogroups.comYahoo! Groups Links -- Therefore, send not to know For whom the bell tolls. It tolls for thee. Like the cut of my jib? Check out my Flex blog! :: Josh 'G-Funk' McDonald :: 0437 221 380 :: j...@gfunk007.com :: http://flex.joshmcdonald.info/ :: http://twitter.com/sophistifunk
