Re: [Flightgear-devel] Trouble compiling on IRIX

2002-04-25 Thread Erik Hofman
shreeganesh ramanan wrote: If the -g option is removed, everything compiles ok. But when fgfs is run, it remains silent for sometime and then core dumps with a Segfault. The IRIX we use is IRIX 6.5.12f on an O2 SGI machine The compiler is GCC 2.95.3 Can anybody explain how this can be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Sounds

2002-04-25 Thread Erik Hofman
Sam Varner wrote: It's this line in the c172-sound.xml file: pitch max5.0/max I don't seem to have a c172-sound.xml file. Also, a grep-find in the FlightGear directory (from version 0.7.9) doesn't turn up any pitch tags. Ah, version 0.7.9 has these settings hardcoded in

[Flightgear-devel] RE: Using gmax models in FG

2002-04-25 Thread mlaw
I've been meeting with increasing frustration trying to complete my C-208 model for *both* FGFS and FS2002. I decided to have a go at it in 3DS Max 3 since I have a few friends to help me with it (and Blender just scares me 8-{). Although I must point out that I'm a total beginner at

[Flightgear-devel] Presentation -- shuttle landing simulator

2002-04-25 Thread Dawn Ellis
Hello everyone, Over the last academic year, I have been involved in working with FlightGear and JSBSIM to build a shuttle landing simulator for the Challenger Center at our University. Our project is funded by a grant from the Wolf Aviation Foundation (www.wolf-aviation.org). Jon asked that I

RE: [Flightgear-devel] General issues

2002-04-25 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: Well I've setup a bare bones class for FGScene and have been browsing through main.cxx. I'm not quite sure what you mean by all of the scene- and scenery-management code. I mean the initialization, setup (clip planes, etc.), and drawing of the main scene graph. It

re: [Flightgear-devel] property viewer segfaulting

2002-04-25 Thread David Megginson
Cameron Moore writes: With that latest CVS of FG and SG, I get a pretty critical segfault when trying to use the property viewer to view the /sim/logging/ node. The httpd interface seems to work fine. The problem is in PUI and/or the prop picker -- the font we're currently using does not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RE: Using gmax models in FG

2002-04-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've been meeting with increasing frustration trying to complete my C-208 model for *both* FGFS and FS2002. I decided to have a go at it in 3DS Max 3 since I have a few friends to help me with it (and Blender just scares me 8-{). Although I must point out that I'm

RE: [Flightgear-devel] General issues

2002-04-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Jim Wilson writes: Well I've setup a bare bones class for FGScene and have been browsing through main.cxx. I'm not quite sure what you mean by all of the scene- and scenery-management code. I mean the initialization, setup (clip planes, etc.), and drawing

[Flightgear-devel] Re: property viewer segfaulting

2002-04-25 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* David Megginson -- Thursday 25 April 2002 15:59: The problem is in PUI and/or the prop picker -- the font we're currently using does not seem to have a '|' character in it, and that must be throwing something off. Yes, and it also has no '_', which can be quite confusing to people who

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RE: Using gmax models in FG

2002-04-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Curtis L. Olson writes: FlightGear should be able to load .3ds and .ase model formats (and any other format supported by plib.) David Megginson has actually built a couple models for flightgear and he did a final conversion to ac3d. I'm guessing that must

RE: [Flightgear-devel] General issues

2002-04-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Curtis L. Olson writes: My one *big* caution on this is to *think* about and pay *attention* to opengl state management issues. If you don't have a good handle on the subtleties involved, you could make a real mess of things or introduce subtle rendering

[Flightgear-devel] RE: Using gmax models in FG

2002-04-25 Thread mlaw
So what is the consensus on the best route to take getting a 3DS model into FGFS? IIRC, gMax will open .3DS files and I could save and export them to MDL with MakeMDL.exe. I'm not sure if 3DS Max 3 will save to native MDL format... Time permitting, I'll play around with a model this weekend

Re: [Flightgear-devel] General issues

2002-04-25 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 10:23:18 -0500 (CDT) Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not saying this isn't an area that shouldn't be cleaned up, but I am saying that it needs to be done ***very*** carefully. This shouts for a decent set of regression tests, to me - some carefully thought

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced Magic Carpet)

2002-04-25 Thread Alex Perry
(make sure you switch to external view), to see the result of 90 seconds' work in Blender. Are you going to do an interior view ? ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced Magic Carpet)

2002-04-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Alex Perry writes: (make sure you switch to external view), to see the result of 90 seconds' work in Blender. Are you going to do an interior view ? David, Here after doing a full cvs update -d of the base package and the fgfs source, I'm seeing a C172 in the external view with --fdm=ufo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced Magic Carpet)

2002-04-25 Thread Alex Perry
Especially in multiplayer mode ... Alex Perry writes: (make sure you switch to external view), to see the result of 90 seconds' work in Blender. Are you going to do an interior view ? David, Here after doing a full cvs update -d of the base package and the fgfs source, I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced Magic Carpet)

2002-04-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Alex Perry writes: Especially in multiplayer mode ... Alex Perry writes: (make sure you switch to external view), to see the result of 90 seconds' work in Blender. Are you going to do an interior view ? David, Here after doing a full cvs update -d of the base package

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced Magic Carpet)

2002-04-25 Thread David Megginson
Alex Perry writes: Are you going to do an interior view ? Do flying saucers have windows? All the best, David -- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced Magic Carpet)

2002-04-25 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: Here after doing a full cvs update -d of the base package and the fgfs source, I'm seeing a C172 in the external view with --fdm=ufo Try --aircraft=ufo All the best, David -- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced Magic Carpet)

2002-04-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Alex Perry writes: Are you going to do an interior view ? Do flying saucers have windows? Well, we know Mr. Gate's has a monopoly here on earth, but it's unclear if this monopoly extends significantly out into the surrounding universe. Curt. -- Curtis Olson

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced MagicCarpet)

2002-04-25 Thread Sydney Weidman
On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 12:17, David Megginson wrote: Alex Perry writes: Are you going to do an interior view ? Do flying saucers have windows? Word has it they use Linux, actually. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced Magic Carpet)

2002-04-25 Thread Alex Perry
Alex Perry writes: Are you going to do an interior view ? Do flying saucers have windows? Most of the ones in films do. You might want to pick your favorite film and use that as the model, whatever it is. There's a good chance someone else has already done the 3D model for it in any case.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Presentation -- shuttle landing simulator

2002-04-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:24:15 -0400, Dawn Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 003501c1ec5c$7ef33920$635dfea9@Roach: Hello everyone, Over the last academic year, I have been involved in working with FlightGear and JSBSIM to build a shuttle landing simulator for the Challenger Center

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Presentation -- shuttle landing simulator

2002-04-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Dawn Ellis writes: Hello everyone, Over the last academic year, I have been involved in working with FlightGear and JSBSIM to build a shuttle landing simulator for the Challenger Center at our University. Our project is funded by a grant from the Wolf Aviation Foundation

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Presentation -- shuttle landing simulator

2002-04-25 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:04:35 +0200 On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:24:15 -0400, Dawn Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message Thank you for all the help you've given me over the past year. Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..this, and similar announcements should, inho, be posted to '[EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Presentation -- shuttle landing simulator

2002-04-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt writes: On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:04:35 +0200 On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 09:24:15 -0400, Dawn Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message Thank you for all the help you've given me over the past year. Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ..this, and similar announcements

RE: [Flightgear-devel] General issues

2002-04-25 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: My one *big* caution on this is to *think* about and pay *attention* to opengl state management issues. If you don't have a good handle on the subtleties involved, you could make a real mess of things or introduce subtle rendering bugs. Got it.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Presentation -- shuttle landing simulator

2002-04-25 Thread Christian Mayer
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Dawn, Thanks for sharing about your project. Not to sound picky, but I'm sure many people on the list either don't have access to power point, or do not have easy access to a machine that runs (or has a copy of) powerpoint. I fall into the second category myself.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced MagicCarpet)

2002-04-25 Thread John Check
On Thursday 25 April 2002 1:23 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: David Megginson writes: Alex Perry writes: Are you going to do an interior view ? Do flying saucers have windows? Well, we know Mr. Gate's has a monopoly here on earth, but it's unclear if this monopoly extends significantly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Using gmax models in FG

2002-04-25 Thread Wolfram Kuss
Interesting link. Still, I tried the MakeMDl that comes with MSFS 2002 Pro some time ago without success. The *.MDL it writes is too different, it is a new version. You might have luck with middleman, which might enable you to intercept the *.x file that gmax gives to MakeMDL. I did not try that.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] RE: Using gmax models in FG

2002-04-25 Thread Wolfram Kuss
Try: a) export ASE or 3DS from 3DS Max 3 into flightgear (maybe look at it in PPE, if it looks good in that, it should look good in FlightGear as well). b) export 3DS from 3DS Max 3 and use the newest gmax (version 1.1), that should IIRC be able to read that. Thanks in advance, Matt. Bye

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced MagicCarpet)

2002-04-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Check writes: On Thursday 25 April 2002 1:23 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: David Megginson writes: Alex Perry writes: Are you going to do an interior view ? Do flying saucers have windows? Well, we know Mr. Gate's has a monopoly here on earth, but it's unclear if this

RE: [Flightgear-devel] General issues

2002-04-25 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I'm not saying this isn't an area that shouldn't be cleaned up, but I am saying that it needs to be done ***very*** carefully. That's exactly what I'm planning to do Curt. I'm not interested in rewriting this code. What I'll be doing is moving it and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced MagicCarpet)

2002-04-25 Thread John Check
On Thursday 25 April 2002 3:59 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: John Check writes: On Thursday 25 April 2002 1:23 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: David Megginson writes: Alex Perry writes: Are you going to do an interior view ? Do flying saucers have windows? Well, we know Mr.

[Flightgear-devel] 3d Cessna 310 u3a

2002-04-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
I just took the latest 3D Cessna 310 u3a (in cvs) for a spin and wow! I hadn't looked at this for a while and it's really looking nice. Thanks to everyone who's pitched in to make this possible. Wonderful job. :-) Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear Project Twin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3d Cessna 310 u3a

2002-04-25 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:28:12 -0500 (CDT) Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just took the latest 3D Cessna 310 u3a (in cvs) for a spin and wow! I hadn't looked at this for a while and it's really looking nice. Are you referring to the exterior or interior? Screen shot? Jon

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3d Cessna 310 u3a

2002-04-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jon S Berndt writes: On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:28:12 -0500 (CDT) Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just took the latest 3D Cessna 310 u3a (in cvs) for a spin and wow! I hadn't looked at this for a while and it's really looking nice. Are you referring to the exterior or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced Magic Carpet)

2002-04-25 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On 25 Apr 2002 12:29:10 -0500, Sydney Weidman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Thu, 2002-04-25 at 12:17, David Megginson wrote: Alex Perry writes: Are you going to do an interior view ? Do flying saucers have windows? Word has it they use Linux,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Presentation -- shuttle landing simulator

2002-04-25 Thread Jonathan Polley
I can convert the file to HTML, but it winds up begin about 3.6 MB, and I use Powerpoint to do the conversion (. Jonathan Polley On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 01:29 PM, Christian Mayer wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: Dawn, Thanks for sharing about your project. Not to sound picky, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Presentation -- shuttle landing simulator

2002-04-25 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jonathan Polley writes: I can convert the file to HTML, but it winds up begin about 3.6 MB, and I use Powerpoint to do the conversion (. That's not entirely unexpected, especially if there is a picture or two in there. Curt. -- Curtis Olson IVLab / HumanFIRST Program FlightGear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced Magic Carpet)

2002-04-25 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:31:51 +0200 Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do flying saucers have windows? Word has it they use Linux, actually. ..how about the one that came down in Roswell, NM? ;-) Where do you think Linus Torvalds came from ... C'mon! You *know* that's not a

[Flightgear-devel] A map of functions.

2002-04-25 Thread Sergio Roth
Is there any map of functions of FGFS ? I mean a doc describing in wich module the function is been implemented. If not, wouldn't be fine to have that ? I think it would be very apreciated and usefull for any of new people joining on this project. In case this doc already exists please coul'd

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced Magic Carpet)

2002-04-25 Thread Jonathan Polley
On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 05:56 PM, Jon S Berndt wrote: On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:31:51 +0200 Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do flying saucers have windows? Word has it they use Linux, actually. ..how about the one that came down in Roswell, NM? ;-) Where do you think

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3d Cessna 310 u3a

2002-04-25 Thread John Check
On Thursday 25 April 2002 5:57 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Jon S Berndt writes: On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 16:28:12 -0500 (CDT) Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just took the latest 3D Cessna 310 u3a (in cvs) for a spin and wow! I hadn't looked at this for a while and it's really

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Presentation -- shuttle landing simulator

2002-04-25 Thread Dawn Ellis
Curt writes: Thanks for sharing about your project. Not to sound picky, but I'm sure many people on the list either don't have access to power point, or do not have easy access to a machine that runs (or has a copy of) powerpoint. I fall into the second category myself. Can power point

[Flightgear-devel] re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] [PATCH] Re: CVS: FlightGear/src/Controls controls.cxx,1.18,1.19

2002-04-25 Thread David Megginson
[re: FGControls::parking_brake] Melchior FRANZ writes: Yes, you are right. That should be 1.0! David, could you change this, please? Sorry for the inconvenience. Actually, it doesn't matter -- when the property is bound, FGControls will pick up the default property value anyway. I will

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced Magic Carpet)

2002-04-25 Thread David Megginson
Arnt Karlsen writes: ..how about the one that came down in Roswell, NM? ;-) That's in the Smithsonian now, isn't it? All the best, David -- David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Presentation -- shuttle landing simulator

2002-04-25 Thread Jonathan Polley
Dawn, I have converted the PPT presentation to HTML. It can be found at: http://homepage.mac.com/eq_fidget/WolfProject.htm I have verified it with Netscape, so I know it is not MS specific ;) Jonathan Polley On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 06:36 PM, Dawn Ellis wrote: Curt writes:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] UFO FDM is Running! (was: Enhanced MagicCarpet)

2002-04-25 Thread John Check
On Thursday 25 April 2002 7:19 pm, Jonathan Polley wrote: On Thursday, April 25, 2002, at 05:56 PM, Jon S Berndt wrote: On Thu, 25 Apr 2002 20:31:51 +0200 Arnt Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do flying saucers have windows? Word has it they use Linux, actually. ..how about the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Presentation -- shuttle landing simulator

2002-04-25 Thread Jim Wilson
Dawn Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Curt writes: Thanks for sharing about your project. Not to sound picky, but I'm sure many people on the list either don't have access to power point, or do not have easy access to a machine that runs (or has a copy of) powerpoint. I fall into the

[Flightgear-devel] View Oddity Between MagicCarpet and JSBSim

2002-04-25 Thread Jonathan Polley
I have been seeing a strange difference between the view I get with the same AC mode and the JSBSim and MagicCarpet FDMs. The pilot view is correct with JSBSim, but under the magic carpet, the pilot is buried up to their eyeballs in the tarmac. There are pictures that show both situations,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3d Cessna 310 u3a

2002-04-25 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I just took the latest 3D Cessna 310 u3a (in cvs) for a spin and wow! I hadn't looked at this for a while and it's really looking nice. Thanks to everyone who's pitched in to make this possible. Wonderful job. :-) Thanks! I really struggled with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: property viewer segfaulting

2002-04-25 Thread Jim Wilson
Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: * David Megginson -- Thursday 25 April 2002 15:59: The problem is in PUI and/or the prop picker -- the font we're currently using does not seem to have a '|' character in it, and that must be throwing something off. Yes, and it also has no '_',

RE: [Flightgear-devel] 3d Cessna 310 u3a

2002-04-25 Thread Jon Berndt
Wow. This is lookin' good. I surmise the extra reference points close up will give a new perspective on flying the -310. For screen shots - if you don't mind my showing off a bit ;-) Show off more. This is very inspiring. It's great PR, too. Night time -

RE: [Flightgear-devel] 3d Cessna 310 u3a

2002-04-25 Thread Jon Berndt
Do you think - just for grins - it might be worth making a post to the rec.aviation.simulation newsgroup (land of MSFS and X-Plane talk)? Jon For screen shots - if you don't mind my showing off a bit ;-) Night time - http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/u3anight.png smime.p7s Description:

[Flightgear-devel] View Configuration Documentation

2002-04-25 Thread Jim Wilson
This is a mini-howto document describing the configuration of views using the new capabilities in the viewer code. Let me know if you see typos, etc. http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/fgfs-viewer-howto.html Curt, if this is ok do you want to put it on the website? Best, Jim

RE: [Flightgear-devel] 3d Cessna 310 u3a

2002-04-25 Thread Jim Wilson
Jon Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Do you think - just for grins - it might be worth making a post to the rec.aviation.simulation newsgroup (land of MSFS and X-Plane talk)? Jon Hmm...don't know. I'm a little nervous about sending links to popular newsgroups with my little dsl line. Best,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3d Cessna 310 u3a

2002-04-25 Thread Alex Perry
For screen shots - if you don't mind my showing off a bit ;-) Night time - http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/u3anight.png Wow ... what did you make the tires of ... Tritium ? 8-) ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Flightgear-devel] Funky tower view

2002-04-25 Thread John Check
I noticed a few oddities with the tower view after flying a bit. This is the first view: http://rockfish.net/fg/towerviewfunk.jpg You can see the runway lights and cloud layer are misplaced. In the next view, the cloud layer is scooting along. It looks way cool, but shouldn't be happening.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Funky tower view

2002-04-25 Thread Jim Wilson
John Check [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I noticed a few oddities with the tower view after flying a bit. This is the first view: http://rockfish.net/fg/towerviewfunk.jpg You can see the runway lights and cloud layer are misplaced. In the next view, the cloud layer is scooting along. It

Re: [Flightgear-devel] View Oddity Between MagicCarpet and JSBSim

2002-04-25 Thread Michael Selig
At 4/25/02, you wrote: I have been seeing a strange difference between the view I get with the same AC mode and the JSBSim and MagicCarpet FDMs. The pilot view is correct with JSBSim, but under the magic carpet, the pilot is buried up to their eyeballs in the tarmac. There are pictures that