Re: [Flightgear-devel] Throttle movement squared

2002-03-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 12:01:01 -0800, Andy Ross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > As for the Right Thing analysis, though, we're basically SOL on that > already. Real controls have forces that depend on things other than > control position, and PC joysticks don't (wel

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Throttle movement squared

2002-03-30 Thread Norman Vine
Andy Ross writes: >David Megginson wrote: > > Julian Foad writes: > > > However, I think it would be a good idea to change the default to > > > "false" because this "squared" feature is not "the Right Thing" for > > > a general input axis. It is, like a "dead band", an arbitrary > > > work-around

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Throttle movement squared

2002-03-30 Thread David Megginson
Andy Ross writes: > There's no pleasing everyone. I'm actually of a mind with Julian here > -- the squaring makes sense for auto-centering controls, where it > provides "fine" control in the center of travel while preserving the > full range of control authority. This is a good fit for aile

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Throttle movement squared

2002-03-30 Thread Andy Ross
David Megginson wrote: > Julian Foad writes: > > However, I think it would be a good idea to change the default to > > "false" because this "squared" feature is not "the Right Thing" for > > a general input axis. It is, like a "dead band", an arbitrary > > work-around for normally-centred, l

re: [Flightgear-devel] Throttle movement squared

2002-03-30 Thread Jim Wilson
Jim Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > > The thing is that the default bindings have to be for something. If > > you're rebinding anyway, then changing the 'squared' feature isn't a > > lot of extra work. I find that the squared feature makes

re: [Flightgear-devel] Throttle movement squared

2002-03-30 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > The thing is that the default bindings have to be for something. If > you're rebinding anyway, then changing the 'squared' feature isn't a > lot of extra work. I find that the squared feature makes an enormous > difference in usability for regular

re: [Flightgear-devel] Throttle movement squared

2002-03-30 Thread David Megginson
Julian Foad writes: > However, I think it would be a good idea to change the default to > "false" because this "squared" feature is not "the Right Thing" for > a general input axis. It is, like a "dead band", an arbitrary > work-around for normally-centred, low-resolution joystick axes, > t

[Flightgear-devel] Throttle movement squared

2002-03-28 Thread Julian Foad
The joystick axis "squared" mode seems to default to on, and is applied at the centre of the axis, not the zero-point of the output value. In the default joysticks.xml, the throttle bindings do not explicitly set it false, so the throttle movement is very odd, so I edited my joysticks.xml. Ho