RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-23 Thread Richard Bytheway
From: Lee Elliott On Thursday 18 November 2004 21:03, Martin Spott wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: um, yes - the TSR-2 probably isn't the best a/c for carrier stuff. The FDM needs really an overhaul because the take-off performance isn't right - it currently lifts off at a lower speed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-23 Thread Lee Elliott
On Tuesday 23 November 2004 13:59, Richard Bytheway wrote: From: Lee Elliott On Thursday 18 November 2004 21:03, Martin Spott wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: um, yes - the TSR-2 probably isn't the best a/c for carrier stuff. The FDM needs really an overhaul because the take-off

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-22 Thread Martin Spott
Lee Elliott wrote: On Sunday 21 November 2004 21:58, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..you forget this plane was made to fight WWIII. ;-). In a nut shell, you've got it. Well, the project started in the late fifties, way past WWII. technical/manufacturing problems (there have been a surprisingly

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-22 Thread Lee Elliott
On Monday 22 November 2004 01:28, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 00:24:38 +, Lee wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 21 November 2004 21:58, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:32:12 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lee

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-21 Thread Martin Spott
Lee Elliott wrote: I also believe the main gear was designed to tolerate less than perfect strips. Yes, the main gear looks to be very 'robust'. But I still wonder why they paid attention to these features. To my knowledge the TSR-2 was designed for long range and high cruise speed. This sort

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-21 Thread Lee Elliott
On Sunday 21 November 2004 21:58, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:32:12 + (UTC), Martin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Lee Elliott wrote: I also believe the main gear was designed to tolerate less than perfect strips. Yes, the main gear looks to be very

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-19 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 18 November 2004 21:03, Martin Spott wrote: Lee Elliott wrote: um, yes - the TSR-2 probably isn't the best a/c for carrier stuff. The FDM needs really an overhaul because the take-off performance isn't right - it currently lifts off at a lower speed if reheat isn't used :( -

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-18 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote [...] Did you manage to take off? With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to the beginning of the 'runway', otherwise it _might_ have worked out. So I crashed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-18 Thread Martin Spott
Vivian Meazza wrote: I don't know. Mathias provides you with a perfectly good carrier-capable aircraft, and you use every other kind ... :-) Well, I'm doing everything in small steps: On the Octane it is a larger undertaking to rebuild FlightGear and after I've finished I'd like to know where

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-18 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 18 November 2004 08:01, Vivian Meazza wrote: Martin Spott wrote [...] Did you manage to take off? With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to the beginning of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.ac -122.590 37.76 -7.0 90 Thanks,

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Vivian Meazza
Martin Spott wrote Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.ac -122.590

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Giles Robertson
] Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 10:29, Martin Spott wrote: Melchior FRANZ wrote: It isn't anywhere in the scenery yet -- just in cvs. You have to add it yourself, or replace the saratoga with it. I added this in file $FG_ROOT/Scenery/Terrain/w130n30/w123n37/942057.stg: OBJECT_SHARED

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: You will only be able to taxi on the carrier's deck with that JSBSim-dropin.tar.gz from the same ftp location. Well, this statement appears to be maybe mostly, but not entirely correct ;-) Apparently different rules apply when you put the carrier into the scenery:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 22:20, Martin Spott wrote: Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: You will only be able to taxi on the carrier's deck with that JSBSim-dropin.tar.gz from the same ftp location. Well, this statement appears to be maybe mostly, but not entirely correct ;-) Apparently

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Martin Spott
Mathias Fr??hlich wrote: On Mittwoch 17 November 2004 22:20, Martin Spott wrote: http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/Carrier_01.jpg [...] Did you manage to take off? With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Mathias Frhlich
On Donnerstag 18 November 2004 00:32, Martin Spott wrote: With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to the beginning of the 'runway', otherwise it _might_ have worked out. So I crashed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Data/AI

2004-11-17 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 08:15:43 +0100, Mathias wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Donnerstag 18 November 2004 00:32, Martin Spott wrote: With a BO105 it's pretty easy, it is feasible with the C172 but for the TSR-2 the strip is too short. I was too lazy to shift the starting position to