Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes/Spoilers

2005-03-14 Thread Erik Hofman
John Wojnaroski wrote:
Hi,
The aircraft file for the 747-100 provided by Jon for the SCALE3X expo does
not contain a drag coeefficinet for the spoliers.  I tried adding a value by
copying that portion from the 737 xml file, but it does not appear to work.
In that the value generated by the spoiler lever is passed from the 747 sim
hardware to FG and on to JSBSim, but there is no visible effect on the
airspeed. Tried tweaking the coefficient to a higher value, but still
nothing.
What did I miss?
You will also need to add the speedbrake component to the FLIGHT_CONTROL 
section of the configuration file:

   COMPONENT NAME=Speedbrake Control TYPE=KINEMAT
 INPUT   fcs/speedbrake-cmd-norm
 DETENTS 2
 0   0
 1   0.6
 OUTPUT  fcs/speedbrake-pos-norm
   /COMPONENT
Erik
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help with B-29

2005-03-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Josh Babcock wrote:
OK, so I've been slowly working on this: 
http://home.comcast.net/~jrbabcock/superfort/ for quite some time now.  
I planned on getting it into CVS once it had a reasonable start for a 
flight model.  My problem is that I apparently am genetically incapable 
of getting a YASim config to converge.  I also have no experience 
creating sounds, and I want this aircraft to have several.
For the sound you might want to start by using the DC-3 configuration 
file. Not exactly what you are looking for, but it would be a nice 
starting position.

Erik
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help with B-29

2005-03-14 Thread Josh Babcock
Erik Hofman wrote:
Josh Babcock wrote:
OK, so I've been slowly working on this: 
http://home.comcast.net/~jrbabcock/superfort/ for quite some time 
now.  I planned on getting it into CVS once it had a reasonable start 
for a flight model.  My problem is that I apparently am genetically 
incapable of getting a YASim config to converge.  I also have no 
experience creating sounds, and I want this aircraft to have several.

For the sound you might want to start by using the DC-3 configuration 
file. Not exactly what you are looking for, but it would be a nice 
starting position.

Erik
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Yeah, I actually took a look at that. I have a handle on how to do the XML, I 
just don't have the expertise to make the actual sound files. The DC3 engine 
sounds are nice, but they don't quite have that throaty sound that you get from 
an 18 cyl radial.  I found a few recordings, but they are low quality. I suppose 
I should write to the CAF in Midland and see if they have any recordings of 
Fifi. That would probably be the best starting point.

Josh
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[Flightgear-devel] Re: Help with B-29

2005-03-14 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Josh Babcock -- Monday 14 March 2005 03:53:
 OK, so I've been slowly working on this: 
 http://home.comcast.net/~jrbabcock/superfort/ for quite some time now.

Very impressive. Looks like one of my new favorites. The cockpit looks
great. Damn, I need VR-goggles ...  Don't let us wait too long!

m.

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] Help with B-29

2005-03-14 Thread Jon Berndt
 Yeah, I actually took a look at that. I have a handle on how to do the XML, I 
 just don't have the expertise to make the actual sound files. The DC3 engine 
 sounds are nice, but they don't quite have that throaty sound that you get 
 from 
 an 18 cyl radial.  I found a few recordings, but they are low quality. I 
 suppose 
 I should write to the CAF in Midland and see if they have any recordings of 
 Fifi. That would probably be the best starting point.
 
 Josh

You could also try Aeromatic at the JSBSim web site:

http://www.jsbsim.org/aeromatic.html

For giving you a very quick start on a JSBSim flight model.

Jon


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[Flightgear-devel] Dashes in filenames

2005-03-14 Thread Martin Spott
A friend of mine (the best I have) brought this to my attention:

The current Windows binary of FlightGear as present in the 0.9.8a
download package refuses to load aircraft with a dash in the filename.
This _might_ be an issue in general but I don't know if it acually is.
It is _definitely_ an issue with the A-10 in the reduced base package
of the 0.9.8a installer - as I was able to verify. After renaming the
A-10cl-set.xml file to A10cl-set.xml I was able to load the
aircraft without any trouble.

Which one should be the guideline on how to deal with this issue:
Should modelers avoid using dashes in filenames except the one in
-set.xml of should the Windws binary get enabled to handle these
names ?

Cheers,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Dashes in filenames

2005-03-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Martin Spott wrote:
A friend of mine (the best I have) brought this to my attention:
The current Windows binary of FlightGear as present in the 0.9.8a
download package refuses to load aircraft with a dash in the filename.
This _might_ be an issue in general but I don't know if it acually is.
It is _definitely_ an issue with the A-10 in the reduced base package
of the 0.9.8a installer - as I was able to verify. After renaming the
A-10cl-set.xml file to A10cl-set.xml I was able to load the
aircraft without any trouble.
Which one should be the guideline on how to deal with this issue:
Should modelers avoid using dashes in filenames except the one in
-set.xml of should the Windws binary get enabled to handle these
names ?
It sounds like a bug, we need to look at it.
Erik
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Dashes in filenames

2005-03-14 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Quoting Martin Spott :

 A friend of mine (the best I have) brought this to my attention:

 The current Windows binary of FlightGear as present in the 0.9.8a
 download package refuses to load aircraft with a dash in the filename.
 This _might_ be an issue in general but I don't know if it acually is.
 It is _definitely_ an issue with the A-10 in the reduced base package
 of the 0.9.8a installer - as I was able to verify. After renaming the
 A-10cl-set.xml file to A10cl-set.xml I was able to load the
 aircraft without any trouble.

 Which one should be the guideline on how to deal with this issue:
 Should modelers avoid using dashes in filenames except the one in
 -set.xml of should the Windws binary get enabled to handle these
 names ?

Could you elaborate ? What are the symptoms and what is the log at a verbose log
level ? Is it ok in fgrun ?
I don't see that problem on my development version and I don't remember seeing a
change in this area of the code recently.

-Fred

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Dashes in filenames

2005-03-14 Thread Dave Culp

 Which one should be the guideline on how to deal with this issue:
 Should modelers avoid using dashes in filenames except the one in
 -set.xml of should the Windws binary get enabled to handle these
 names ?

I was under the impression that if the directory name is A-10 then there must 
be a file in it named A-10-set.xml.   Is this wrong?


Dave

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Dashes in filenames

2005-03-14 Thread Erik Hofman
Dave Culp wrote:
Which one should be the guideline on how to deal with this issue:
Should modelers avoid using dashes in filenames except the one in
-set.xml of should the Windws binary get enabled to handle these
names ?

I was under the impression that if the directory name is A-10 then there must 
be a file in it named A-10-set.xml.   Is this wrong?
It used to be that way, it's not necessary anymore for recent version of 
FlightGear (I think 0.9.0 and later).

Erik
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Help with B-29

2005-03-14 Thread Andy Ross
Josh Babcock wrote:
 My problem is that I apparently am genetically incapable of
 getting a YASim config to converge.

XML file?  Output?

Andy

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Dashes in filenames

2005-03-14 Thread Martin Spott
Frederic Bouvier wrote:

 Could you elaborate ? What are the symptoms and what is the log at a verbose 
 log
 level ? Is it ok in fgrun ?

I didn't hunt for debug output this morning but I'll do that tonight.
My friend told me something like FlightGear is broken, it stops after
selecting the A-10 - so I assume 'fgrun' works correctly,

Martin.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Dashes in filenames

2005-03-14 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote:

 I didn't hunt for debug output this morning but I'll do that tonight.
 My friend told me something like FlightGear is broken, it stops after
 selecting the A-10 - so I assume 'fgrun' works correctly,

I was unable to reproduce after I reverted the filename change. I
wasn't able to reprocude this effect with the A-10fl neither.
Might there be an issue with this single A-10cl-set.xml file in the
installer package which got lost (the issue) during renaming ?
I'm aware that this souds a bit strange, but I would not tell this
story if it actually didn't happen 

I'll reinstall FlightGear on the PeeCee some day this week to determine
if the problem persists,

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RE: [Flightgear-devel] power/gear warning

2005-03-14 Thread Vivian Meazza
Curt wrote

 
 On some more complex aircraft, if you pull back the power without having
 the landing gear down, you get an audible warning signal.  I don't know
 if I've ever had the chance to hear this tone in real life.  Does any
 one have (or can anyone create) a suitable sound to be included in the
 base package?
 

There's one in the Spitfire, which works just as you descibe. Feel free to
use it.

Regards

Vivian




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[Flightgear-devel] power/gear warning

2005-03-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
On some more complex aircraft, if you pull back the power without having 
the landing gear down, you get an audible warning signal.  I don't know 
if I've ever had the chance to hear this tone in real life.  Does any 
one have (or can anyone create) a suitable sound to be included in the 
base package?

Thanks,
Curt.
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] power/gear warning

2005-03-14 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Vivian Meazza wrote:
Curt wrote
 

On some more complex aircraft, if you pull back the power without having
the landing gear down, you get an audible warning signal.  I don't know
if I've ever had the chance to hear this tone in real life.  Does any
one have (or can anyone create) a suitable sound to be included in the
base package?
   

There's one in the Spitfire, which works just as you descibe. Feel free to
use it.
 

Figures that we already had a sound sample in the base package.  Ok, 
with a few tweaks the spitfire example worked great.  Thanks!

Curt.
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