Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ports

2005-10-16 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
Anyone transmitting un-encrypted data across a world wide internet (as opposed to a private intranet) needs to think ahead a little. Every hacker will be rubbing their hands with glee before trying to hit you on these ports you have just announced. A server/client or even peer-to-peer

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: A question regarding accurate taxiways

2005-10-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Ralf Gerlich wrote: Hi, I hope I don't say too much if I say that there is work planned on defining taxiways by means of polylines in TaxiDraw. Excellent! Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: A question regarding accurate taxiways

2005-10-16 Thread Harald JOHNSEN
Paul Surgeon wrote: On Saturday 15 October 2005 20:54, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought about the taxiway structure/format a while back. I came to the conclusion that a raw polygon editor is about the only way you're going to be able to create taxiways properly. You mean, ac3d or

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH] [BUG] fix a NASAL error when the WB dialog is open w/jsbsim

2005-10-16 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Vassilii Khachaturov -- Saturday 15 October 2005 21:28: The default aircraft behaviour on the menu WB dialog command is to report a NASAL error on the STDERR of flightgear, with no reaction in the game window. Included is a patch that pops up a dialog instead, explaining why that wouldn't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] uninitialized variables used

2005-10-16 Thread Erik Hofman
Ladislav Michnovič wrote: Hello. Using new gcc 4.0 I have some serios warnings about uninitialized variables, that are used. I created a patch, but I have no idea if it is possible to do it my way. Can you check this out please? It would be great if it will be fixed in next release. The CVS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..we're not re-inventing pcproxy?, was README.multiplayer update

2005-10-16 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
network connection to a flight simulation network, such as VATSIM or IVAO, which is based on the fsd (Flight Simulator Daemon) protocol. This is particulary useful for players who wish to have multiple network clients active at the same time. In tech-terms, PCProxy is a multi-connect

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH] [BUG] fix a NASAL error when the WB dialog is open w/jsbsim

2005-10-16 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
The length is due to the diff inability to say that a lot of lines were just indented right (as they were put inside an else {} ) (To verify that quickly, try applying the diff locally and do a cvs diff -bu which then would ignore everything except the substantial change.) BTW, is there a way

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: A question regarding accurate taxiways

2005-10-16 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Harald JOHNSEN wrote: The best way I found to counter the z-buffer fighting is simply to disable z-buffer testing. Remember, we are painting the ground, why would we want any z tests (you can find situation where this add artifacts of course). Exactly, if you disable the z-buffer, you lose

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: A question regarding accurate taxiways

2005-10-16 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Saturday 15 October 2005 23:44, Ralf Gerlich wrote: Hi, I hope I don't say too much if I say that there is work planned on defining taxiways by means of polylines in TaxiDraw. That's still very restrictive. It's a step in the right direction but is still far from what is needed. We need

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..we're not re-inventing pcproxy?, was

2005-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: I wonder if the flightgear server though should support the fsd protocol at some future point of time to be a gateway between our and VATSIM/IVAO flying... It's not a matter if it _should_ or not. The relevant details of the protocol, at least as used by VASTIM,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: A question regarding accurate taxiways

2005-10-16 Thread Christian Mayer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Surgeon schrieb: On Saturday 15 October 2005 23:44, Ralf Gerlich wrote: Hi, I hope I don't say too much if I say that there is work planned on defining taxiways by means of polylines in TaxiDraw. That's still very restrictive. It's a

[Flightgear-devel] Re: A question regarding accurate taxiways

2005-10-16 Thread ojoe
Dave writes: I certainly sympathise with this point of view. The current format is certainly crude. However, the problems with it only become apparent close up, when either close to or on the ground, and trying to follow taxiways at intersections. The taxiway layouts done in the current

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: A question regarding accurate taxiways

2005-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If editing taxiways becomes as easy as importing the image data, a lot more people will do it and we'll all wind up with more airports (and a better user experience.) I don't find creating an airport and taxiways in TaxiDraw that challenging. As with all manual work

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: A question regarding accurate taxiways

2005-10-16 Thread Ralf Gerlich
Hi, Christian Mayer schrieb: Paul Surgeon schrieb: On Saturday 15 October 2005 23:44, Ralf Gerlich wrote: Hi, I hope I don't say too much if I say that there is work planned on defining taxiways by means of polylines in TaxiDraw. That's still very restrictive. It's a step in the right

[Flightgear-devel] Instant replay broken?

2005-10-16 Thread David Luff
Is it just me, or is it completely impossible to escape from instant replay once engaged in the current CVS? Cheers - Dave ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instant replay broken?

2005-10-16 Thread Erik Hofman
David Luff wrote: Is it just me, or is it completely impossible to escape from instant replay once engaged in the current CVS? You can end the repeating loop by pressing 'p' twice. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instant replay broken?

2005-10-16 Thread George Patterson
On Sun, 2005-10-16 at 17:11 +0100, David Luff wrote: Is it just me, or is it completely impossible to escape from instant replay once engaged in the current CVS? Cheers - Dave Yes, It's just you :-P You can stop the replay by select the View menu, select instant replay. On the Instant

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..we're not re-inventing pcproxy?, was

2005-10-16 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
I wonder if the flightgear server though should support the fsd protocol at some future point of time to be a gateway between our and VATSIM/IVAO flying... It's not a matter if it _should_ or not. The relevant details of the protocol, at least as used by VASTIM, are 'closed', Security by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] README.multiplayer update

2005-10-16 Thread Andy Ross
Oliver Schroeder wrote: So the server has to reread the port from the UDP header everytime it reseives new data from the client and recreate a socket for it (and clse the existing one of course). Er, no. Check the man page of sendto. :) The server only needs one socket for its whole

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] [BUG] fix a NASAL error when the WB dialog is open w/jsbsim

2005-10-16 Thread Andy Ross
Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: The length is due to the diff inability to say that a lot of lines were just indented right (as they were put inside an else {} ) Use the -w argument to diff to eliminate the whitespace noise for readability. But regardless, don't do this. :) Wrapping huge blocks

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH] [BUG] fix a NASAL error when the WB dialog is open w/jsbsim

2005-10-16 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Andy Ross -- Sunday 16 October 2005 19:32: YASim is the only FDM that reads those properties, Which *does* make it a YASim-only dialog. Not for you and me, maybe, but for those who will have to live a *very* long time with 0.9.9. Just that those don't know why it sometimes works, and

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [PATCH] [BUG] fix a NASAL error when the WB dialog is open w/jsbsim

2005-10-16 Thread Melchior FRANZ
What about this: in the 0.9.9 release we pop up a dialog that says: Not implemented for this type of aircraft. And after the release: *Still* not implemented in JSBSim!. ;-) m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PID Controller Bug the next

2005-10-16 Thread Hans-Georg Wunder
Hans-Georg Wunder wrote: Jeff McBride wrote: The patch committed by Erik: http://cvs.flightgear.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/viewcvs.cgi/source/src/Autopilot/xmlauto.cxx.diff?r1=1.19r2=1.20cvsroot=FlightGear-0.9 should fix this. This is what would happen when you set delta_u_n = u_max - u_n_1 :

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..we're not re-inventing pcproxy?, was

2005-10-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:11:51 +0200 (IST), Vassilii wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I wonder if the flightgear server though should support the fsd protocol at some future point of time to be a gateway between our and VATSIM/IVAO flying... It's not a matter if it _should_ or not.

[Flightgear-devel] Re: contacting tower

2005-10-16 Thread Frank Olaf
Another point is that I am not always able to contact the tower when pressing the ' key, even though I am on the correct radiofrequency. Since this appears to be a bug I'll continue this discussion on the developer list.(I assume I shouldn't post this message on both lists?) Further

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Multiplayer ports

2005-10-16 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Campbell wrote: Anyone transmitting un-encrypted data across a world wide internet needs to think ahead a little. Every hacker will be rubbing their hands with glee before trying to hit you on these ports you have just announced. [...] This really isn't much of an issue. The attack you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: A question regarding accurate taxiways

2005-10-16 Thread Christian Mayer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ralf Gerlich schrieb: I'm not sure how important giving back to Robin's DB is for the FlightGear community but in the OpenSource manner I'd say we should try to find a way of not doing things twice in two communities. We should try to scratch

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: A question regarding accurate taxiways

2005-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
Christian Mayer wrote: Ralf Gerlich schrieb: I'm not sure how important giving back to Robin's DB is for the FlightGear community but in the OpenSource manner I'd say we should try to find a way of not doing things twice in two communities. We should try to scratch only our own itch.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..we're not re-inventing pcproxy?, was

2005-10-16 Thread John Wojnaroski
you might try http://sourceforge.net/projects/openatc It died a quiet death when no one showed up for the network field test JW Vassilii Khachaturov wrote I wonder if the flightgear server though should support the fsd protocol at some future point of time to be a gateway between our

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..we're not re-inventing pcproxy?, was

2005-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: I wonder if the flightgear server though should support the fsd protocol at some future point of time to be a gateway between our and VATSIM/IVAO flying... It's not a matter if it _should_ or not. The relevant details of the protocol, at least as used by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..we're not re-inventing pcproxy?, was

2005-10-16 Thread John Wojnaroski
Martin Spott wrote: Vassilii Khachaturov wrote: I wonder if the flightgear server though should support the fsd protocol at some future point of time to be a gateway between our and VATSIM/IVAO flying... It's not a matter if it _should_ or not. The relevant details of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: A question regarding accurate taxiways

2005-10-16 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On October 15, 2005 08:51 pm, David Luff wrote: I know there was some talk of extracting taxiways from the FAA's PDFs, I can't realistically see that happening! That was a proposal from me. The idea is to have a program (could be a modified version of KPDF) to read a vector based PDF file

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: A question regarding accurate taxiways

2005-10-16 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On October 16, 2005 03:43 am, Harald JOHNSEN wrote: I thought about the taxiway structure/format a while back. I came to the conclusion that a raw polygon editor is about the only way you're going to be able to create taxiways properly.   You mean, ac3d or blender ? No need to use a special

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: A question regarding accurate taxiways

2005-10-16 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Regarding Robin's DB: having accurate taxiways is not the only concern. Some other items that we should take notice of include: - buildings placement - gates' position - tower/ILS frequencies - runway/taxiway signs - airport animations - runway/taxiway conditions due to weather - ground pathways