Re: [Flightgear-devel] Scenery testing

2003-12-10 Thread Erik Hofman
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Can we double the power, add some animation, and perhaps more loosely couple the power plants? Now is when we really could use the ability to drop ordinance. I don't have the POH in front of me, but I would think that those particular engines would certainly need to expel

Cockpit Hardware Building (was: Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-16 cockpit)

2003-12-10 Thread Alan King
Maybe we're just a few doing flightgear, but that'll certainly change over time. Just show those (mostly ignorant) MSFS crowds what flightgear can do :-) Just joined the list myself and this was one of only a few main reasons. I was drawing up homemade control system hardware this afternoon.

[Flightgear-devel] Changement d'adresse e-mail

2003-12-10 Thread jpjent
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.1.0 available.

2003-12-10 Thread David Luff
On 12/10/03 at 7:05 AM Ivo wrote: On Monday 08 December 2003 12:00, David Luff wrote: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~eazdluf/TaxiDraw-0p1p0-src.tar.gz Source [74K], requires wxWindows to compile (wxGTK-dev on Linux). I tried it for the first time today, and I ran into some strange things:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.1.0 available.

2003-12-10 Thread David Luff
On 12/10/03 at 9:50 AM David Luff wrote: Its definately a bug :-( Unfortunately I can't replicate it - I compile and run it on both Linux (using gcc-3.2.x where x is a number I don't know Oops, no, I use 3.2 for FlightGear, but I'm pretty sure I used the stock Woody compiler for TaxiDraw, which

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.1.0 available.

2003-12-10 Thread David Luff
On 12/8/03 at 11:00 AM David Luff wrote: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~eazdluf/TaxiDraw4.jpg The fifth shows that one of the FG runways extends beyond the runway in the photo. Either the FG data for this runway is wrong, or it's been extended since the photo was taken. Can anyone who knows KDPA

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT re] Perthon -- Python to Perl Language Translation

2003-12-10 Thread Jonathan Richards
On Tuesday 09 Dec 2003 9:37 pm, Norman Vine wrote: http://perthon.sourceforge.net/ :-) Interesting - I don't often see two (purportedly) equivalent pieces of code together like that. I put both examples into files: the python is 668 bytes, whereas the perl is 1074. Is python really that

[Flightgear-devel] Taxiway / Apron lighting advice wanted.

2003-12-10 Thread David Luff
Now, that I've edited a few taxiways, I could do with some advice on airport lighting before sending them off to Robin Peel. Documentation on taxiway lighting seems quite (very) hard to come by, so could some airport users give me some advice for various classes of airports. Do aprons have edge

Re: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.1.0 available.

2003-12-10 Thread Jon Stockill
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, David Luff wrote: On 12/10/03 at 9:50 AM David Luff wrote: Its definately a bug :-( Unfortunately I can't replicate it - I compile and run it on both Linux (using gcc-3.2.x where x is a number I don't know Oops, no, I use 3.2 for FlightGear, but I'm pretty sure I used

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT re] Perthon -- Python to Perl Language Translation

2003-12-10 Thread David Megginson
Jonathan Richards wrote: Interesting - I don't often see two (purportedly) equivalent pieces of code together like that. I put both examples into files: the python is 668 bytes, whereas the perl is 1074. Is python really that much more terse than perl, or is it an artefact of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT re] Perthon -- Python to Perl Language Translation

2003-12-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Jonathan Richards writes: On Tuesday 09 Dec 2003 9:37 pm, Norman Vine wrote: http://perthon.sourceforge.net/ :-) Interesting - I don't often see two (purportedly) equivalent pieces of code together like that. I put both examples into files: the python is 668 bytes, whereas the perl

RE: [Flightgear-devel] TaxiDraw-0.1.0 available.

2003-12-10 Thread Norman Vine
David Luff writes: I couldn't find the date the photo's were taken during a cursory search, If you click on the info button when in the interactive mode you will get some meta-data to include the 'date' of the photos For example Image Info Info: Digital Ortho-Quadrangles (digitized and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT re] Perthon -- Python to Perl Language Translation

2003-12-10 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: There's a better way to compare languages: http://99-bottles-of-beer.ls-la.net/history-and-background.html Nice. I'm glad they got BC, DIBOL and EmacsLisp covered, hehe. But so far no RPG II, or 1130 Assembler. Nothing to test on I guess :-)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [OT re] Perthon -- Python to Perl Language Translation

2003-12-10 Thread Andy Ross
Jonathan Richards wrote: Interesting - I don't often see two (purportedly) equivalent pieces of code together like that. I put both examples into files: the python is 668 bytes, whereas the perl is 1074. Is python really that much more terse than perl, or is it an artefact of the

Re: Cockpit Hardware Building (was: Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-16 cockpit)

2003-12-10 Thread Manuel Bessler
Hi John, On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 03:02:25PM -0800, John Wojnaroski wrote: Hi Manuel, I've also talked to John Wojnaroski, He is also building hardware. Maybe we're just a few doing flightgear, but that'll certainly change over time. Just show those (mostly ignorant) MSFS crowds what

Re: Cockpit Hardware Building (was: Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-16 cockpit)

2003-12-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Manuel Bessler writes: OK, No problem. Maybe we should really consider a mailinglist for that as Al has mentioned. Even if it'll be very low traffic. The question would be whether this would/could be hosted officially along the other fgfs list, or if we should set up something independet of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Taxiway / Apron lighting advice wanted.

2003-12-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Luff writes: Now, that I've edited a few taxiways, I could do with some advice on airport lighting before sending them off to Robin Peel. Documentation on taxiway lighting seems quite (very) hard to come by, so could some airport users give me some advice for various classes of

Re: Cockpit Hardware Building (was: Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-16cockpit)

2003-12-10 Thread John Wojnaroski
OK, No problem. Maybe we should really consider a mailinglist for that as Al has mentioned. Even if it'll be very low traffic. The question would be whether this would/could be hosted officially along the other fgfs list, or if we should set up something independet of flightgear.org Curt?

Re: Cockpit Hardware Building (was: Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-16 cockpit)

2003-12-10 Thread Andy Ross
Curtis L. Olson wrote: Manuel Bessler writes: OK, No problem. Maybe we should really consider a mailinglist for that as Al has mentioned. Even if it'll be very low traffic. It's not a ton of work to setup a new mailing list, however, you might consider just jumping on board with an

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rsync vulnerability

2003-12-10 Thread Martin Spott
Andy Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Spott wrote: bitchy Here you realize the difference between a wannabee enterprise filesystem and an enterprise filesystem that was designed as such from the very beginning /bitchy The automatic filesystem check is an issue of filesystem

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Taxiway / Apron lighting advice wanted.

2003-12-10 Thread Martin Spott
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Luff writes: Do aprons have edge lighting? Do large GA airports typically have taxiway edge / center lighting? Small GA airports? Do taxiways tend to be lit either all or none, or just the main ones sometimes. I don't think there are hard

RE: Cockpit Hardware Building (was: Re: [Flightgear-devel]F-16cockpit)

2003-12-10 Thread Al West
If Curt doesn't mind providing the facility, I like the idea. It would be nice not to be dependant on the facilities offered by people outside of flightgear to an extent. Also I'm going to be asking a lot of dumb question about input in flightgear and I don't want it to be too public ;-)

RE: Cockpit Hardware Building (was: Re: [Flightgear-devel]F-16cockpit)

2003-12-10 Thread Gene Buckle
If Curt doesn't mind providing the facility, I like the idea. It would be nice not to be dependant on the facilities offered by people outside of flightgear to an extent. Also I'm going to be asking a lot of dumb question about input in flightgear and I don't want it to be too public ;-)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Taxiway / Apron lighting advice wanted.

2003-12-10 Thread Jon Stockill
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Curtis L. Olson wrote: through all that effort, you probably have to just make your best guess. The info I've managed to find says that 18m wide taxiways have blue edge lighting, and 18m wide taxiways have green centreline lighting. I'll be setting up the airports I'm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Taxiway / Apron lighting advice wanted.

2003-12-10 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson wrote: I don't think there are hard and fast rules for this. Ultimately real people spend real time and real money installing real lights. So a lot of times, smaller airports with smaller budgets have no taxiway lighting at all. KDEN has all it's taxiways very well lit, and has

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Taxiway / Apron lighting advice wanted.

2003-12-10 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: Possibly, but from what I've heard, the main reason for centreline lighting on runways is to support Cat II and III ILS approaches (down to a 50 ft ceiling); probably, the same applies to taxiway lighting, since you'll have ground ops in *extremely* low visibility.

Re: Cockpit Hardware Building (was: Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-16 cockpit)

2003-12-10 Thread Manuel Bessler
Hi Curt, On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 10:24:36AM -0600, Curtis L. Olson wrote: It's not a ton of work to setup a new mailing list, however, you might consider just jumping on board with an existing home cockpit group such as simpits.org. That would make more sense to me since they've already gone

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Taxiway / Apron lighting advice wanted.

2003-12-10 Thread David Luff
On 12/10/03 at 2:39 PM David Megginson wrote: I think that the best thing to do would be to leave taxiway centreline lighting out by default, and only include it when you have positive information that it's present in real life (probably only a few airports in any country). I'd be very

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Taxiway / Apron lighting advice wanted.

2003-12-10 Thread David Megginson
David Luff wrote: How about aprons? Most of the airports already done have edge (and center) lighting defined for pretty much everything, including the aprons. I'm assuming that small fields won't have that, but larger commercial fields? That probably depends as much on the apron as the airport

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Taxiway / Apron lighting advice wanted.

2003-12-10 Thread Jon Stockill
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, David Luff wrote: It (the atc info) might be fairly RAF field orientated though? Could be I suppose. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Cockpit Hardware Building (was: Re: [Flightgear-devel] F-16 cockpit)

2003-12-10 Thread Manuel Bessler
On Wed, Dec 10, 2003 at 10:38:48PM +0100, Manuel Bessler wrote: already gone to a lot of effort to collect like minded people. Well, like minded Ooops, didn't finish my sentence... this should not have been in my reply. I was going to write something like like minded in terms of building,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Command Options

2003-12-10 Thread John Wojnaroski
- Original Message - From: Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: FlightGear developers discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Command Options John Wojnaroski writes: Just uploaded the latest FG 09.3 -- quite a step from