Re: [Flightgear-devel] estimating visibility

2008-02-21 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Mittwoch 20 Februar 2008 schrieb Mike Schuh: I wonder if a multiple regression against several factors would turn up anything useful: vis = f(humidity,temp,wind,ceiling,elevation,sun_angle,ground_cover) Not sure how to incorporate sun_angle for values 0 (i.e., night). Moon?

[Flightgear-devel] Flightgear Wiki page updated

2008-02-21 Thread George Patterson
Hi All, I have edited the Installing_Scenery page in the wiki by fleshing out the TODOs a little more. http://wiki.flightgear.org/flightgear_wiki/index.php?title=Installing_Scenery If someone could do something for fgadmin, that would remove the last TODO on that page :-) What's the next page

Re: [Flightgear-devel] estimating visibility

2008-02-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Mike Schuh -- Wednesday 20 February 2008: Not sure how to incorporate sun_angle for values 0 (i.e., night). Moon? I doubt that the moon has much influence (although it slightly deforms the Earth surface). The sun angle effect is already contained in the other values, as well as in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: data/Navaids TACAN_freq.dat.gz, 1.3, 1.4

2008-02-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
Changes to the huge compressed files should IMHO generally be avoided. It means that, no matter how simple the change, everyone has to download megabytes of data. In most cases it should be enough to drop Robin a line and to wait for the next update. (In the last apt.dat.gz one of my routine

Re: [Flightgear-devel] estimating visibility

2008-02-21 Thread Thomas Förster
Thanks for the processing chain. I'll see if I find some time to look into this in the weekend. Lots of other data processing (ant distributions, butterfly breathing, etc.) on the bench already... :) My main idea is not to develop a complicated model. I rather try to find some complicated

Re: [Flightgear-devel] estimating visibility

2008-02-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Thomas Förster -- Thursday 21 February 2008: My main idea is not to develop a complicated model. I rather try to find some complicated filtering in the hope, that the remaining data gives a simple model that's better than the conservative setting. Ahh, excellent. That sounds even better.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Announcement : F-14 early alpha on CVS

2008-02-21 Thread LeeE
Use the Ts tag in the controller configs to specify a 'fixed' sampling rate. Personally, I config and tune all my controllers to run at 20Hz so that there is a good chance they'll work on lower-end systems without causing problems on faster machines. LeeE On Wednesday 20 February 2008

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BUG when replay with generic protocol

2008-02-21 Thread Curtis Olson
On Sat, Feb 9, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Alex Buzin wrote: I have write the flight to the file using generic protocol (with playback.xml). When replaying flight in Cockpit View all is fine, but when I switch to Chase View picture starts to jitter. I got this at Flightgear-1.0.0 at v0.9.10 this effect

[Flightgear-devel] [patch] fix FGNewCache to really delete old tiles

2008-02-21 Thread till busch
hi, as discussed with tim on irc. here comes a quick fix for memory-hungry tile manager. due to bugs in FGNewCache old tiles where never deleted. i left the timestamp-updates in the cull-traversal. but imho things work just as well when timestamps are updated in FGNewCache::insert_tile() and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BUG when replay with generic protocol

2008-02-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis Olson -- Thursday 21 February 2008: sigh not something I have time to look into myself right now, but is something I've brought up before, Yes, you wrote me about it. I couldn't reproduce, but told you about a bug in the replay system and what you could try. You didn't seem to have

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BUG when replay with generic protocol

2008-02-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis Olson -- Thursday 21 February 2008: If you can setup two flightgear machines [...] Unfortunately not. But if someone wants to donate some good hardware, I'd try that variant. :-} If you don't have the hardware to setup two PC's simultaneously, I could walk you through some other

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] fix FGNewCache to really delete old tiles

2008-02-21 Thread Curtis Olson
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:11 AM, till busch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, as discussed with tim on irc. here comes a quick fix for memory-hungry tile manager. due to bugs in FGNewCache old tiles where never deleted. i left the timestamp-updates in the cull-traversal. but imho things work

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BUG when replay with generic protocol

2008-02-21 Thread Curtis Olson
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Melchior FRANZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, you wrote me about it. I couldn't reproduce, but told you about a bug in the replay system and what you could try. You didn't seem to have done that, but otherwise didn't reply either. So I considered it resolved.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] BUG when replay with generic protocol

2008-02-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Melchior FRANZ -- Thursday 21 February 2008: No, Nasal has nothing to do with it. It's only the order in the main loop. Well, Nasal has indirectly to do with it: the change in execution order put the event manager right before the view handling, so that Nasal code (or other event driven

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] fix FGNewCache to really delete old tiles

2008-02-21 Thread till busch
hi curt, 1. this is a really small patch. please read the code before posting funny questions. 2. besides of the missing min_index the logic for finding the oldest tile was plain wrong. notice the comparison operator was wrong? (and in the same manner max_time=0 was wrong) for those who do not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] fix FGNewCache to really delete old tiles

2008-02-21 Thread Curtis Olson
I was looking through some of the recent code changes for newcache.cxx and I see that the time stamping has seen substantial changes though several revisions and probably does not resemble the plib code any more ... I based my questions on the contents of your patch not realizing the file had seen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] fix FGNewCache to really delete old tiles

2008-02-21 Thread Curtis Olson
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:51 PM, till busch wrote: hi curt, sorry for being rude. your asking (though not specific enough, imho) had a valid point as andy pointed out (in irc). the variable naming was bad. apparently in the transition from plib the wrong branch of the condition got in.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] fix FGNewCache to really delete old tiles

2008-02-21 Thread till busch
hi curt, sorry for being rude. your asking (though not specific enough, imho) had a valid point as andy pointed out (in irc). the variable naming was bad. apparently in the transition from plib the wrong branch of the condition got in. this patch now fixes the variable names. (and adds

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] fix FGNewCache to really delete old tiles

2008-02-21 Thread till busch
hi curt, i fear i'm not the right person to answer this. (at least not without doing some time-consuming research). i don't *believe* the problem you describe could be related to the deletion of old tiles. what i can tell for sure is that the correct tiles get deleted. i had lots of debugging

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] fix FGNewCache to really delete old tiles

2008-02-21 Thread Curtis Olson
Hi Til, Thanks again for your efforts on this (and to everyone else who participated.) I've just committed the most recent version of this patch. It seemed to stand up well to my stress tests. There is an issue with the ground-cache code not always returning a proper hit, but that seems

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PNG textures in CVS

2008-02-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* AJ MacLeod -- Monday 18 February 2008: Now that our data has been properly branched, I would like to move to using PNG (or, where suitable, JPEG) textures in my models. OK, I'd say it's decided. No objections, only agreements (and that includes some more people on IRC). This doesn't mean

Re: [Flightgear-devel] PNG textures in CVS

2008-02-21 Thread AJ MacLeod
On Thursday 21 February 2008 22:06:02 Melchior FRANZ wrote: And, of course, nobody is supposed to use JPEG in cases where compression artifacts disturb. But for some textures JPEG may be acceptable (with higher quality setting if necessary) Agreed... I've used JPEG in the past when working on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] fix FGNewCache to really delete old tiles

2008-02-21 Thread Tim Moore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Curtis Olson wrote: | Hi Til, | | Thanks again for your efforts on this (and to everyone else who | participated.) I've just committed the most recent version of this | patch. It seemed to stand up well to my stress tests. There is an | issue with

[Flightgear-devel] fgjs E-Sky USB Controller setup help

2008-02-21 Thread
I just found your FLIGHTGEAR Software package. I marked it for install in Ubuntu version 7.10, and then tried to get my E-SKY Model 66P02 USB Controller set up for control of AILERONS, ELEVATOR, THROTTLE, and RUDDER. I use this controller for R/C Programs FMS and HeliSimRC under Win XP. It has

Re: [Flightgear-devel] estimating visibility

2008-02-21 Thread Ampere K.
On February 20, 2008 05:36:16 pm Mike Schuh wrote: On Wed, 20 Feb 2008, Melchior FRANZ wrote: * Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 20 February 2008: One effect that could also be considered is wind speed. Hmm ... and temperature. Very hot should probably reduce the visibility as well, even if