Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-08-31 Thread Vivian Meazza
Stuart Sent: 30 August 2013 23:30 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: Great work James. I should have some time to test over the weekend. Did a quick test on a Windows 7

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-08-31 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Stuart Buchanan wrote: 1) Windows launcher appears to have Rembrandt enabled by default, but set via the Advanced properties, rather than having a checkbox on the launcher. Makes it quite difficult for a new user to disable it. I would have expected

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-08-30 Thread James Turner
On 29 Aug 2013, at 10:02, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote: No, rsync is not available as a direct Jenkins plugin (we could run it manually of course from a command-line step, but that becomes more work to deploy across different slaves). However I've found a different SFTP plugin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-08-30 Thread Scott Berry
I agree James. But like Stewart said let's do some testing over the weekend to see what happens. On 08/30/13 04:00, James Turner wrote: On 29 Aug 2013, at 10:02, James Turner zakal...@mac.com mailto:zakal...@mac.com wrote: No, rsync is not available as a direct Jenkins plugin (we could

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-08-29 Thread James Turner
On 28 Aug 2013, at 21:13, Edheldil fg...@eowyn.cz wrote: Can't you use rsync instead of scp? It can upload to a temporary directory and move the files when they are successfully transfered, and uses temporary files anyway. I believe it also deletes the temporaries if the transfer is

[Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-08-28 Thread James Turner
Hello, After fixing a dumb mistake of mine, we now have automatically generated installers / files for Linux, Mac and Windows. Get them from here: (updated automatically) http://fgfs.goneabitbursar.com/releases/ (The 2.12 versions, obviously) I've done a quick test and things look

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-08-28 Thread James Turner
On 28 Aug 2013, at 16:56, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to make Jenkins where it will notify people when it uploads or just have a page where it says Jenkins is uploading please wait a while and try this download again. This way we don't get corrupted files? Quick

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-08-28 Thread Scott Berry
Okay totally understand. i'll think about it for a while and see what I can come up with. I have some other ideas for Flight Gear too since I am on vacation from school I'll maybe have some time to think about those too. On 08/28/13 10:07, James Turner wrote: On 28 Aug 2013, at 16:56,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-08-28 Thread Edheldil
On 08/28/2013 06:07 PM, James Turner wrote: On 28 Aug 2013, at 16:56, Scott Berry sb356...@gmail.com mailto:sb356...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a way to make Jenkins where it will notify people when it uploads or just have a page where it says Jenkins is uploading please wait a while and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-02-05 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 02:14:08 +0100, Arnt wrote in message 20130131021408.75b70...@celsius.lan: On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:11:36 +0100, Erik wrote in message 5108f1d8.3090...@ehofman.com: On 01/30/2013 08:10 AM, Renk Thorsten wrote: It does run on my Win 7 laptop with nvidia graphics

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-02-02 Thread Renk Thorsten
4. Models/Weather - 76 MB - As asked are BOTH duplicate dds and rgb files needed, or could a release work with only one or the other? 5. And now I find in both Textures and Textures.high the same duplication of dds and png files. Again are BOTH really required for a release? 6. Are there

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-02-01 Thread Geoff McLane
Hi Curt, $(FGSRC)/package/make-base-package.no-arch.sh Thanks for this, and it worked fine ;=)) But it produces a 755,302,671 byte tar.bz2 file for 2.10 release fg data! So again, is there any way this can be reduced? 1. As already suggested here maybe the ATC/Chatter 61 MB could be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-31 Thread Renk Thorsten
Are the Winter textures still needed? In a sense they were never really needed... for instance I have never used them. Just to summarize the options we have to generate snow: 1) Winter textures They are base texture sheets with snow painted on, which means they have a fixed snowcover and no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-31 Thread James Turner
On 31 Jan 2013, at 08:00, Renk Thorsten thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: A (more complicated) option would be to offer only one set of terrain textures in the base package and offer the others as additional downloads. Both the dds and the winter textures are probably relatively clean to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-31 Thread Vivian Meazza
Thorsten wrote Are the Winter textures still needed? In a sense they were never really needed... for instance I have never used them. Just to summarize the options we have to generate snow: 1) Winter textures They are base texture sheets with snow painted on, which means they

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-31 Thread Renk Thorsten
I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong here: we now have so many different options, but getting snow by method 2 or 3 results in deciduous trees in full leaf with snow coverage on the ground. Not an impossible scenario, but bare trees are more likely. Is this a bug? It's actually... pretty

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-31 Thread Erik Hofman
On 01/31/2013 09:17 AM, James Turner wrote: My libSVN replacement is getting closer to the top of my TODO list, at which point identifying chunks of the base package which can be optional / on-demand downloads would be very doable. I was thinking the the 'high-res' textures, but the winter

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-31 Thread James Turner
On 31 Jan 2013, at 10:06, Erik Hofman e...@ehofman.com wrote: There's also ATC chatter sound files for different part of the world. Oh, that's a good point indeed. AI models is another one, but also more tricky. Personally I'd like AI aircraft to be downloaded on demand, but only from a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-31 Thread Geoff McLane
Hi Curt, Downloaded 2.10 RC1 - Wow over a 20 minutes even at about 550 MB/s, but I guess all good things come with a little pain ;=)) But noted you 'forgot' to adjust the default install folder - it still reads C:\PF\FlightGear-2.8.0.4 as the default install folder. And likewise the name

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 13:49:18 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1359636558.2578.5.camel@DELL02: Hi Curt, Downloaded 2.10 RC1 - Wow over a 20 minutes even at about 550 MB/s, but I guess all good things come with a little pain ;=)) ..here, you build on your own makefg script?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-31 Thread Curtis Olson
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:49 AM, Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info wrote: Hi Curt, Downloaded 2.10 RC1 - Wow over a 20 minutes even at about 550 MB/s, but I guess all good things come with a little pain ;=)) But noted you 'forgot' to adjust the default install folder - it still reads

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-31 Thread Geoff McLane
Hi Curt, Thanks for the reply. I believe Fred intentionally chose to use the same registry key from one version to the next. Ok, that's understandable... my last install was 2.8.0.4, but I wanted them separated... not over-written... But then not sure why not choose just C:\PF\FlightGear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-31 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:07:25 +0100, Geoff wrote in message 1359655645.2578.10.camel@DELL02: Hi Curt, Thanks for the reply. I believe Fred intentionally chose to use the same registry key from one version to the next. Ok, that's understandable... my last install was 2.8.0.4, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-31 Thread Curtis Olson
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Geoff McLane ubu...@geoffair.info wrote: There is a make target in the flightgear top level ... And assume the 'make' target is $ make package, or $ make package_source which seem to be the only possible targets shown for $ make help But running the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-30 Thread Erik Hofman
On 01/30/2013 08:10 AM, Renk Thorsten wrote: It does run on my Win 7 laptop with nvidia graphics hardware (and nvidia graphics drivers installed.) I will get it uploading ... 740Mb! So much for the CD distribution. :-) Didn't Bill Gates famously say 640Mb should be enough for anyone?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-30 Thread Curtis Olson
FYI, the first windows 2.10 release candidate has been posted. It hits the ibiblio.org and kingmont.com mirrors first and then propagates as the other mirrors run their scheduled syncs. http://www.flightgear.org/news/flightgear-v2-10-release-candidates/ James, let me know when there's something

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-30 Thread James Turner
On 30 Jan 2013, at 13:20, Curtis Olson curtol...@flightgear.org wrote: FYI, the first windows 2.10 release candidate has been posted. It hits the ibiblio.org and kingmont.com mirrors first and then propagates as the other mirrors run their scheduled syncs.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-30 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi Curt, http://www.flightgear.org/news/flightgear-v2-10-release-candidates/ Just a suggestion: it might be nice to mention the forum and bug tracker at that page, so people know where to go with their issues. ;-) Forum: http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=68 Bug tracker:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-30 Thread Curtis Olson
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:43 AM, James Turner wrote: James, let me know when there's something ready to go on the MacOS side and I'll update the 2.10 RC info page. It's ready to go as an RC1. I have further tweaks to make tonight, adding Stuart's PDF and back-porting the atmospheric fix

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-30 Thread James Turner
On 30 Jan 2013, at 15:27, Curtis Olson curtol...@flightgear.org wrote: Should I be looking at the Mac-release target? (or FlightGear-mac?) Mac-release, Flightgear-mac is the bleeding-edge continuous build from 'next'. The Windows- and Linux- release builds are also enabled and running, the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013 11:11:36 +0100, Erik wrote in message 5108f1d8.3090...@ehofman.com: On 01/30/2013 08:10 AM, Renk Thorsten wrote: It does run on my Win 7 laptop with nvidia graphics hardware (and nvidia graphics drivers installed.) I will get it uploading ... 740Mb! So much for the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-30 Thread syd adams
I cant use the shaders ,and prefer not to use that one anyway... so please dont remove the snow textures. The nicest thing about flightgear is I can turn off all the 'extras' , and get great framerates. Cant say that about my current install of Xplane 10. On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Arnt

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-30 Thread Erik Hofman
On 01/31/2013 06:36 AM, syd adams wrote: I cant use the shaders ,and prefer not to use that one anyway... so please dont remove the snow textures. The nicest thing about flightgear is I can turn off all the 'extras' , and get great framerates. Cant say that about my current install of Xplane

[Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-29 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi all, with just two more weeks to go till the release, we'd better get our release candidates published. Mac is available on Jenkins, but I couldn't find anything for Windows or other OS yet... I've opened the usual subforum on the forum today, so we can collect all reports in a single

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-29 Thread Curtis Olson
I've been working on the first windows release candidate this week. It's been going fairly well, but there are the usual packaging things to work through (and/or remember.) Curt. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Gijs de Rooy wrote: Hi all, with just two more weeks to go till the release,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-29 Thread Curtis Olson
... and it looks like the windows version crashes immediately when it tries to bring up the splash screen (based on --log-level=debug). This is on my windows XP test machine that ran v2.8 ok. Hmmm... fgfs.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close, we are sorry for the inconvenience.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-29 Thread Curtis Olson
It does run on my Win 7 laptop with nvidia graphics hardware (and nvidia graphics drivers installed.) I will get it uploading ... 740Mb! So much for the CD distribution. :-) Didn't Bill Gates famously say 640Mb should be enough for anyone? Curt. On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Curtis Olson

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-29 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Didn't he say GiB? And CDs are an ancient technology... Thanks for building the RC. We need to get this automated some day. Or at least documented... (another one from famous last words: if you have to do it more than once, automate it. If you can't automate it, document it.) Torsten Am

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-29 Thread Curtis Olson
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 4:37 PM, Torsten Dreyer tors...@t3r.de wrote: Didn't he say GiB? And CDs are an ancient technology... Thanks for building the RC. We need to get this automated some day. Or at least documented... (another one from famous last words: if you have to do it more than

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release candidates

2013-01-29 Thread Renk Thorsten
It does run on my Win 7 laptop with nvidia graphics hardware (and nvidia graphics drivers installed.) I will get it uploading ... 740Mb! So much for the CD distribution. :-) Didn't Bill Gates famously say 640Mb should be enough for anyone? Um... which reminds me - I had on my old computer