Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flight Pro Sim Statement (v1.3)

2009-12-19 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All, Thanks very much for the additional feedback. As before, I've compiled the feedback since the last version, and included a new version (v1.3) at the bottom of this email. Any final comments? -Stuart Vivian wrote: >Typo? > >... at not cost from ... Fixed. >Awkward tautology? > >... we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] --config nav.dat

2009-12-19 Thread Martin Spott
John Denker wrote: > That's fine as a long-term strategy, but it doesn't > work in the short term, especially given how rarely > FG updates its copy. I don't mean to push this idea since we've already taken 'sufficient' scolding for doing so in the past. Nevertheless I'd like to mention that ship

Re: [Flightgear-devel] navaids update

2009-12-19 Thread Martin Spott
Pete Morgan wrote: > Is nav.dat supposed to be updated from robin X-plane database? Yes. >> If nobody else is going to do that, I'll be updating the file from >> Robin's most current package during our pre-release phase (however this >> is going to be defined ). >> >> > Can't the data be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flight Pro Sim Statement (v1.3)

2009-12-19 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Correction in red, below. Otherwise, it looks good, I think. > FlightGear is an open-source flight simulator that was started in 1996. > It is released under > the GNU General Public License v2, and as such, it is free to use, > modify and distribute with few restrictions. It has been > developed

Re: [Flightgear-devel] navaids update

2009-12-19 Thread John Denker
On 12/19/2009 07:40 AM, Martin Spott wrote: > ... Robin's current set of navaids ... > contains navaids for airfields which are otherwise unknown to > FlightGear, On the opposite side of the same coin, the last time I looked, the scenery database listed huge numbers of airports that were unknow

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Braking Power - rate of deceleration

2009-12-19 Thread Ron Jensen
On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 14:35 -0500, Peter Brown wrote: > Hey all. > > Does anyone know of a way to provide more realistic braking power? > The deceleration rate seems to be an across-the-board-standard between > all aircraft, and from a user point of view I'm not sure it takes > weight, mass, or an

[Flightgear-devel] --help --verbose documentation

2009-12-19 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All, While updating The Manual to include all the command-line options listed by "--help --verbose", I discovered that "--help --verbose" itself wasn't up to date. I've just checked in some changes to options.xml and the default set of translated strings, so --help --verbose is now consiste

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Braking Power - rate of deceleration

2009-12-19 Thread Peter Brown
Hi Ron, I did find the bindings and nasal properties as you mentioned here, but thank you for the additional explanations. For the time being I'm going to look at some more normalized braking forces per aircraft based on the following criteria. - individual aircraft "average" landing weights p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] navaids update

2009-12-19 Thread James Turner
On 19 Dec 2009, at 16:19, John Denker wrote: > Maybe the code should be made more robust so that this > is not a fault condition. > > This is not the first time in history that code has > needed to perform a join on two databases that are > not in one-to-one correspondence. Well I wrote the co

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Braking Power - rate of deceleration

2009-12-19 Thread Ron Jensen
On Sat, 2009-12-19 at 12:07 -0500, Peter Brown wrote: > Hi Ron, > > I did find the bindings and nasal properties as you mentioned here, > but thank you for the additional explanations. For the time being I'm > going to look at some more normalized braking forces per aircraft > based on the follow

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.128, 1.129

2009-12-19 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Turner -- Saturday 19 December 2009: > + HASHSET("ils-frequency-mhz", 3, naNum(rwy->ILS()->get_freq() / > 100.0)); FAIL m. -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advan

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Braking Power - rate of deceleration

2009-12-19 Thread Peter Brown
Even better. Thanks Ron, I'll take a look at that. Peter On Dec 19, 2009, at 12:57 PM, Ron Jensen wrote: > On Sat, 2009-12-19 at 12:07 -0500, Peter Brown wrote: >> Hi Ron, >> >> I did find the bindings and nasal properties as you mentioned here, >> but thank you for the additional explanations

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.128, 1.129

2009-12-19 Thread James Turner
On 19 Dec 2009, at 18:38, Melchior FRANZ wrote: >> + HASHSET("ils-frequency-mhz", 3, naNum(rwy->ILS()->get_freq() / >> 100.0)); > > FAIL Onwards and upwards (in CVS, now). Shortest code review I've ever had (so far!) James

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.129, 1.130

2009-12-19 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Turner -- Saturday 19 December 2009: > - HASHSET("ils-frequency-mhz", 3, naNum(rwy->ILS()->get_freq() / > 100.0)); > + HASHSET("ils-frequency-mhz", 17, naNum(rwy->ILS()->get_freq() / > 100.0)); Still wrong. Since when do we use minus signs in variable names? m. --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.128, 1.129

2009-12-19 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* James Turner -- Saturday 19 December 2009: > Onwards and upwards (in CVS, now). Shortest code review I've ever had (so > far!) Well, since people have taken over who pretend to know better (and I don't mean you), I can't be bothered to write verbose reports. :-P m. --

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.129, 1.130

2009-12-19 Thread Vivian Meazza
Melchior FRANZ wrote > > * James Turner -- Saturday 19 December 2009: > > - HASHSET("ils-frequency-mhz", 3, naNum(rwy->ILS()->get_freq() > / 100.0)); > > + HASHSET("ils-frequency-mhz", 17, naNum(rwy->ILS()->get_freq() > / 100.0)); > > Still wrong. Since when do we use minus sign

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.129, 1.130

2009-12-19 Thread James Turner
On 19 Dec 2009, at 18:55, Melchior FRANZ wrote: > Still wrong. Since when do we use minus signs in variable names? Ah, that's annoying. Can't map property names to Nasal, since '-' is a token in Nasal. Hmmm. ilsFrequenceyMHz? ils_frequency_mhz? If there's a Nasal convention here please let

Re: [Flightgear-devel] CVS: source/src/Scripting NasalSys.cxx, 1.129, 1.130

2009-12-19 Thread James Turner
On 19 Dec 2009, at 19:03, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Hey guys, don't we test code/scripts nowadays before stuffing it into CVS? Well the C++ code works - for this kind of thing I was lazy and hoped the person who requested the feature will test it and let me know if they encounter problems. I also

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Braking Power - rate of deceleration

2009-12-19 Thread Peter Brown
Ron, Take a look at this and see if you think this would be a good route to go with this. The time and subjective part of course is the number of landings needed to dial in the aircraft model. Mfg reports that I am aware of seem to publish landing distances on both dry and wet surfaces using a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-12-19 Thread John Denker
Back in the 2nd week of September there was discussion of reversible ILSs. Maybe I missed something, but I thought there was rough consensus around the following ideas: a) FG behavior should be reasonably realistic. We should not make artificial assumptions that make approaches unflyable, whe

Re: [Flightgear-devel] reversible ILS

2009-12-19 Thread Alex Perry
+1. Reversible approaches should be configured like any other ATC controlled ground system - such as runway lighting. I have no objections to an automatic selector for which ILS end to enable, but it should be based on surface wind (for example) and not the aircraft position. John Denker wr

Re: [Flightgear-devel] --metar and --enable-real-weather-fetch

2009-12-19 Thread John Denker
On 05/24/2009 02:58 AM, Torsten Dreyer wrote in part: > Step #2 > Add an option --metar= > - this implies --disable-real-weather-fetch and set scenario to METAR > - make the metar string editable in the weather_scenario dialog > This option needs some changes in the logic of real-weather-fetch and