[Flightgear-devel] OpenSUSE 11.3 FlightGear nasal errors
Hello, I'm getting so many nasal errors during simulation. I've compiled the latest git source. hlada...@linux-hco7:~ fgfs --version Processing command line arguments FlightGear version: 2.2.0 Revision: e8500b3f2dd6871b5670d57b5feaba7460555892 Build-Id: none FG_ROOT=/usr/local/share/flightgear FG_HOME=/home/hladas94/.fgfs FG_SCENERY=/usr/local/share/flightgear/Scenery:/usr/local/share/flightgear/Scenery/Terrain:/usr/local/share/flightgear/Scenery/Objects: SimGear version: 2.0.0 PLIB version: 185 Please take a look here: http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20t=10548 If you have any idea, please let me know. Thank You, J. Hladik -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] More flightprosim offshoots
http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/index.html http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/buy-flight-simulator.html http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/flight-simulator-planes.html -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] More flightprosim offshoots
Hi, http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/index.html http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/buy-flight-simulator.html http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/flight-simulator-planes.html A mail to Airbus should be enough to deal with! After reading a newsarticle about products piraty of german cars like SMART and Mercedes in China I slowly begin to think more and more that the poeple behind the rip-off sits in China, and it isn't just one man behind -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] Build failed in Hudson: FlightGear-next-Win32 #290 (fwd)
It appears that the work Dave did missed a bit or two on the Windows side. :) g. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 07:01:47 -0800 (PST) From: ge...@deltasoft.com To: zakal...@mac.com, ge...@deltasoft.com Subject: Build failed in Hudson: FlightGear-next-Win32 #290 See http://flightgear.simpits.org:8080/job/FlightGear-next-Win32/290/changes Changes: [Dave Luff] Remove conditional compilation of ATCDCL [Dave Luff] ATCDCL: Remove some unused cruft. [Dave Luff] ATCDCL: Initialisation order fixes from John Denker. [Dave Luff] ATIS fixes from John Denker -- Started by an SCM change Building remotely on MSVC . . [much snipped] . . 1d:\FGFSHudson\FlightGear\src\Include/version.h(2): warning C4005: 'FLIGHTGEAR_VERSION' : macro redefinition 1d:\FGFSHudson\FlightGear\src\include\config.h(22): warning C4005: 'FLIGHTGEAR_VERSION' : macro redefinition 1d:\FGFSHudson\FlightGear\src\Include/version.h(2): warning C4005: 'FLIGHTGEAR_VERSION' : macro redefinition 1fg_init.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol public: __thiscall FGATCMgr::FGATCMgr(void) (??0FGATCMgr@@q...@xz) referenced in function bool __cdecl fgInitSubsystems(void) (?fgInitSubsystems@@YA_NXZ) 1kln89.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol public: __thiscall FGATCAlignedProjection::~FGATCAlignedProjection(void) (??1FGATCAlignedProjection@@q...@xz) referenced in function private: void __thiscall KLN89::DrawMap(bool) (?draw...@kln89@@aae...@z) 1kln89.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol public: class SGVec3double __thiscall FGATCAlignedProjection::ConvertToLocal(class SGGeod const ) (?converttolo...@fgatcalignedprojection@@qae?av?$sgv...@n@@ABVSGGeod@@@Z) referenced in function private: void __thiscall KLN89::DrawMap(bool) (?draw...@kln89@@aae...@z) 1kln89.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol public: class SGGeod __thiscall FGATCAlignedProjection::ConvertFromLocal(class SGVec3double const ) (?convertfromlo...@fgatcalignedprojection@@QAE?AVSGGeod@@abv?$sgv...@n@@@Z) referenced in function private: void __thiscall KLN89::DrawMap(bool) (?draw...@kln89@@aae...@z) 1kln89.obj : error LNK2019: unresolved external symbol public: __thiscall FGATCAlignedProjection::FGATCAlignedProjection(class SGGeod const ,double) (??0FGATCAlignedProjection@@q...@abvsggeod@@n...@z) referenced in function private: void __thiscall KLN89::DrawMap(bool) (?draw...@kln89@@aae...@z) 1http://flightgear.simpits.org:8080/job/FlightGear-next-Win32/ws/projects\VC90\Win32\Release\fgfs.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 5 unresolved externals -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenSUSE 11.3 FlightGear nasal errors
Hi Jakub, Just speculating here, but it is possible that you might have some stray older versions of some dependency libraries (like simgear) installed in a system location and that is some how leading to a not quite standard compile? Normally this would lead to compile errors, but maybe if certain old pieces are found you could still get a successful compile, but non-working behavior? I'm just speculating here. Another thing to try is to make sure you've done a full make clean of everything and rebuild simgear and flightgear completely from scratch. If you are doing git pulls mixed with system upgrades/patches, every once in a while it seems like stray pieces can get missed or not recompiled when they should. Regards, Curt. On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Jakub Hladik hlada...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm getting so many nasal errors during simulation. I've compiled the latest git source. hlada...@linux-hco7:~ fgfs --version Processing command line arguments FlightGear version: 2.2.0 Revision: e8500b3f2dd6871b5670d57b5feaba7460555892 Build-Id: none FG_ROOT=/usr/local/share/flightgear FG_HOME=/home/hladas94/.fgfs FG_SCENERY=/usr/local/share/flightgear/Scenery:/usr/local/share/flightgear/Scenery/Terrain:/usr/local/share/flightgear/Scenery/Objects: SimGear version: 2.0.0 PLIB version: 185 Please take a look here: http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20t=10548 If you have any idea, please let me know. Thank You, J. Hladik -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/curt/http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/personal/curt/ -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] [Flightgear-commitlogs] FlightGear branch, next, updated. 07d430c129e6214c06df994b42bb997b05dfbd31
On 29 Dec 2010, at 19:14, Flightgear-commitlogs wrote: More fixes to the ATCDCL ATC compilation Rename ATC/atis.[ch]xx to ATC/atis_mgr.[ch]xx, to avoid confusingly having 2 atis.cxx and 2 atis.hxx in the source tree. Also fix a copy and paste error in src/ATCDCL/CMakeLists.txt. While it's lovely that you (Dave Luff) are keeping the CMakeFiles in sync, the MSVC build currently uses hand-rolled projects of Fred's, which need to be updated by hand (but this is trivial to do, just open up the VC90 ones in a text editor). (Don't worry about the VC100 projects, they are tricky to hand edit unfortunately - Hudson uses VS2008, aka VC90) (we might use CMake for the MSVC builds in the future, but the CMake files need to mature quite a bit first) James -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] More flightprosim offshoots
There is also Boeing flight simulator, according to the website. Incidentally when you click on the link to the airbus one it shows 3 shots of Boeings, when you click on the link to the boeing one it shows an airbus. Go figure! It is such a poorly designed website, using the same html template as all the other variants - I'm hoping that any rational minded person stumbling upon this would have the common sense to mistrust it and avoid it like its the plague... I'd be interested to know how Airbus and Boeing view the use of their IP in the name(s) of the website. Perhaps I should forward the Airbus and Boeing folk an email? Regards, Chris Wilkinson, YBBN/BNE. From: Peter Brown smoothwater...@adelphia.net To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thu, 30 December, 2010 1:08:15 AM Subject: [Flightgear-devel] More flightprosim offshoots http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/index.html http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/buy-flight-simulator.html http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/flight-simulator-planes.html -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build failed in Hudson: FlightGear-next-Win32 #290 (fwd)
On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Gene Buckle ... wrote: It appears that the work Dave did missed a bit or two on the Windows side. :) g. Hi Gene, I've updated the VC90 project files and pushed - it might work now, but I'm flying blind here since I'm not on Windows at the moment. Cheers - Dave -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build failed in Hudson: FlightGear-next-Win32 #290 (fwd)
Dave, The renaming one of the 2 atis.*xx fixed it here for MSVC9 Vivian -Original Message- From: L [mailto:dave.l.li...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 December 2010 20:59 To: FlightGear developers discussions Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build failed in Hudson: FlightGear-next-Win32 #290 (fwd) On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Gene Buckle ... wrote: It appears that the work Dave did missed a bit or two on the Windows side. :) g. Hi Gene, I've updated the VC90 project files and pushed - it might work now, but I'm flying blind here since I'm not on Windows at the moment. Cheers - Dave -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
[Flightgear-devel] thanks, Tim
Comment #8 on issue 110 by timoore33: Pick animation do not hilight transparent objects any more http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=110 fixed with simgear c934b47f2e94fcefb719b9b6186abc4fd8562670 Wow. That helps a lot. -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] OpenSUSE 11.3 FlightGear nasal errors
Hi everyone, I have the same problem concerning the autostart button not working on opensuse 11.3, while it does on 11.2. I installed FG 2.0 from the repositories in both cases. I checked the dependencies and there were no error. Sorry, I don't have any log or error output. I posted this on the forum too http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20t=10548p=108297#p108297 And thanks all for what you are doing for the flightgear users, it's becoming greater and greater :) Regards, Benjamin On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Curtis Olson curtol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jakub, Just speculating here, but it is possible that you might have some stray older versions of some dependency libraries (like simgear) installed in a system location and that is some how leading to a not quite standard compile? Normally this would lead to compile errors, but maybe if certain old pieces are found you could still get a successful compile, but non-working behavior? I'm just speculating here. Another thing to try is to make sure you've done a full make clean of everything and rebuild simgear and flightgear completely from scratch. If you are doing git pulls mixed with system upgrades/patches, every once in a while it seems like stray pieces can get missed or not recompiled when they should. Regards, Curt. On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:40 AM, Jakub Hladik hlada...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I'm getting so many nasal errors during simulation. I've compiled the latest git source. hlada...@linux-hco7:~ fgfs --version Processing command line arguments FlightGear version: 2.2.0 Revision: e8500b3f2dd6871b5670d57b5feaba7460555892 Build-Id: none FG_ROOT=/usr/local/share/flightgear FG_HOME=/home/hladas94/.fgfs FG_SCENERY=/usr/local/share/flightgear/Scenery:/usr/local/share/flightgear/Scenery/Terrain:/usr/local/share/flightgear/Scenery/Objects: SimGear version: 2.0.0 PLIB version: 185 Please take a look here: http://www.flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20t=10548 If you have any idea, please let me know. Thank You, J. Hladik -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/http://aem.umn.edu/%7Euav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/curt/http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/personal/curt/ -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] More flightprosim offshoots
On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Heiko Schulz aeitsch...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi, http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/index.html http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/buy-flight-simulator.html http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/flight-simulator-planes.html A mail to Airbus should be enough to deal with! This domain name is registered to Wodonga, in Victoria Australia, contact email address is a web design company (velvetmice.com). So yes, a email to Airbus could be the best way to deal with it. Especially when they are making it sound as though their 'solution' is a certified flight simulator. After reading a newsarticle about products piraty of german cars like SMART and Mercedes in China I slowly begin to think more and more that the poeple behind the rip-off sits in China, and it isn't just one man behind Yes and no. It's an affiliate Multi-level marketing scheme. If I could figure out a way of playing off one affiliate against another and not get caught in the cross fire, I would do it. In the mean time, search youtube for flight pro sim but under search options, select Today. and thumb down their videos so at least they do not rank highly in youtube.com Reporting a video as scam/fraud seems to be very hit and miss. Perhaps youtube staff don't have long to review a video to decide whether to pull the video or not (only guessing here). BTW, I wouldn't want to say where in the world these slime balls are located. Regards George -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Build failed in Hudson: FlightGear-next-Win32 #290 (fwd)
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010, Dave L wrote: On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Gene Buckle ... wrote: It appears that the work Dave did missed a bit or two on the Windows side. :) g. Hi Gene, I've updated the VC90 project files and pushed - it might work now, but I'm flying blind here since I'm not on Windows at the moment. Thanks Dave. Hudson is showing green across the board now. ;) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.simpits.org/geneb - The Me-109F/X Project ScarletDME - The red hot Data Management Environment A Multi-Value database for the masses, not the classes. http://www.scarletdme.org - Get it _today_! Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] More flightprosim offshoots
Here's another thought. When we find these rogue / offensive / completely full of !...@#$@# affiliates, we could report them to the proflightsimulator.com web site. Presumably they lose when an affiliate acts badly. Maybe they don't care, but maybe they do. That's yet to be determined, but if we report some of these affiliates directly to proflightsimulator.com it would be interesting to see what they would do --- or not do. That would be very telling and would help us decide if it's best to concentrate our efforts on reporting rogue affiliates or go straight towards proflightsimulator.com. We also should try to build up contacts with proflightsimulator customers. If they feel they have been ripped off we need to start documenting what they've done and who've they have contacted to try to get a refund. proflightsim promises a 100% no-hassle refund if people ask. There is a lot of confusion floating around between rogue affiliates out right spamming and lying and even saying hateful things, affiliates operation under false identies, etc. We should start documenting reality and see if we can separate out the actions of proflightsimulator.com versus the various affiliates and try to understand if people can actually get a refund if they want one, if it's a full refund of all charges (people are getting multiple additional charges on their credit cards, etc.) Curt. On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 7:52 PM, George Patterson george.patter...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Heiko Schulz aeitsch...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi, http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/index.html http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/buy-flight-simulator.html http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/flight-simulator-planes.html A mail to Airbus should be enough to deal with! This domain name is registered to Wodonga, in Victoria Australia, contact email address is a web design company (velvetmice.com). So yes, a email to Airbus could be the best way to deal with it. Especially when they are making it sound as though their 'solution' is a certified flight simulator. After reading a newsarticle about products piraty of german cars like SMART and Mercedes in China I slowly begin to think more and more that the poeple behind the rip-off sits in China, and it isn't just one man behind Yes and no. It's an affiliate Multi-level marketing scheme. If I could figure out a way of playing off one affiliate against another and not get caught in the cross fire, I would do it. In the mean time, search youtube for flight pro sim but under search options, select Today. and thumb down their videos so at least they do not rank highly in youtube.com Reporting a video as scam/fraud seems to be very hit and miss. Perhaps youtube staff don't have long to review a video to decide whether to pull the video or not (only guessing here). BTW, I wouldn't want to say where in the world these slime balls are located. Regards George -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Curtis Olson: http://www.atiak.com - http://aem.umn.edu/~uav/ http://www.flightgear.org - http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/curt/http://www.flightgear.org/blogs/category/personal/curt/ -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel
Re: [Flightgear-devel] More flightprosim offshoots
I've taken the liberty of sending an email to the Airbus customer service team, outlining some brief background about FPS and a link to the infringing website. Wodonga? Wow this guy moves (his alleged location) around - lets see if we can pin him down more closely... Georeferencing the IP address gleaned from a traceroute we can see that... airbusflightsimulator.com is hosted near Marcy Squares New York, but leap-frogs via Coconut Creek, Florida. proflightsim.com is hosted in Washington State, but leap-frogs via the same Florida location. flightgear.us is hosted in Burlington, Massachusetts, but again leap-frogs via the exact same Florida location. I'm not a betting man, but Florida is looking kinda good odds currently... Regards, Chris Wilkinson, YBBN/BNE. From: George Patterson george.patter...@gmail.com To: FlightGear developers discussions flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thu, 30 December, 2010 11:52:46 AM Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] More flightprosim offshoots On Thu, Dec 30, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Heiko Schulz aeitsch...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi, http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/index.html http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/buy-flight-simulator.html http://www.airbusflightsimulator.com/flight-simulator-planes.html A mail to Airbus should be enough to deal with! This domain name is registered to Wodonga, in Victoria Australia, contact email address is a web design company (velvetmice.com). So yes, a email to Airbus could be the best way to deal with it. Especially when they are making it sound as though their 'solution' is a certified flight simulator. After reading a newsarticle about products piraty of german cars like SMART and Mercedes in China I slowly begin to think more and more that the poeple behind the rip-off sits in China, and it isn't just one man behind Yes and no. It's an affiliate Multi-level marketing scheme. If I could figure out a way of playing off one affiliate against another and not get caught in the cross fire, I would do it. In the mean time, search youtube for flight pro sim but under search options, select Today. and thumb down their videos so at least they do not rank highly in youtube.com Reporting a video as scam/fraud seems to be very hit and miss. Perhaps youtube staff don't have long to review a video to decide whether to pull the video or not (only guessing here). BTW, I wouldn't want to say where in the world these slime balls are located. Regards George -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel -- Learn how Oracle Real Application Clusters (RAC) One Node allows customers to consolidate database storage, standardize their database environment, and, should the need arise, upgrade to a full multi-node Oracle RAC database without downtime or disruption http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnl___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/flightgear-devel