Re: [Flightgear-devel] altimeter problem

[castle]

>> Need new graphics cards amd will upgrade to a quad-core machine.  In
>> the
>> meantime going to offload some of the number crunching for one of the
>> projectors to a slave to shoot the videos for the UCD presentation.
>
> UCD ??

University of California at Davis

Go to www.lugod.org for details on the presentation.

This is one of the most active and dynamic users groups around.  Always a
pleasure to meet with them

Jack

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] altimeter problem

[Jon S. Berndt]

> Need new graphics cards amd will upgrade to a quad-core machine.  In
> the
> meantime going to offload some of the number crunching for one of the
> projectors to a slave to shoot the videos for the UCD presentation.

UCD ??

jb


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] altimeter problem

[castle]

> Hi Jack,
>
> If you want to rule out the sort of dumb stuff that I do here, try taxiing
> a
> short bit.  Do the slave views follow at the wrong altitude?  Or is it
> possible there's a comms problem and the slaves aren't getting updated at
> all (so they start half submerged.)   I'm pretty sure the net-fdm protocol
> passes the correct absolute altitude so you don't have to worry
> about instrumentation differences (unless you are trying to display
> another
> altimeter on the slave ... then you need to make sure the atmospheric
> conditions are setup to match on both systems.)
>

I found it, operative word is dumb here too;  bad IP address.  Was trying
to send the packet to the cockpit displays, my bad.

Running the image warping software for three projectors kills the frame
rate.  Down to 15fps  :-(

Need new graphics cards amd will upgrade to a quad-core machine.  In the
meantime going to offload some of the number crunching for one of the
projectors to a slave to shoot the videos for the UCD presentation. This
should get it back to a respectable 20-25 fps.

If time permits, will port FG-2.2 to the new machine and graphics cards,
but first want to have something presentable ready to go.

With the quad core will run one master and two slaves and use the
127.0.0.1 internal address and that leaves one for the instructor
workstation.  Another option would be to go to shared memory, but that is
a bit more envolved handling mutex read/write operations.  Maybe later...

Jack


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] altimeter problem

[Curtis Olson]

Hi Jack,

If you want to rule out the sort of dumb stuff that I do here, try taxiing a
short bit.  Do the slave views follow at the wrong altitude?  Or is it
possible there's a comms problem and the slaves aren't getting updated at
all (so they start half submerged.)   I'm pretty sure the net-fdm protocol
passes the correct absolute altitude so you don't have to worry
about instrumentation differences (unless you are trying to display another
altimeter on the slave ... then you need to make sure the atmospheric
conditions are setup to match on both systems.)

Curt.


On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 10:08 PM,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> When running a slave and master configuration noticed a problem with the
> indicated altimeter.  FG version is 2.0.
>
> Sitting on runway at KSFO master properties show
>
> Contents of "/instrumentation/altimeter"
> indicated-altitude-ft (16.21034188)
> mode-c-alt-ft (0)
> pressure-alt-ft (17.40378625)
> serviceable (true)
> setting-inhg (29.92)
>
> while the slave properties are
>
> Contents of "/instrumentation/altimeter"
> indicated-altitude-ft (-0.3222003762)
> mode-c-alt-ft (0)
> pressure-alt-ft (0.8712439941)
> serviceable (true)
> setting-inhg (29.92)
>
> The slave OTW scene is at runway level,  bummer!
>
> It looks like the FDM data packet (net-fdm.hxx) has a slot for altitude as
> in
>
>   double altitude; // above sea level (meters)
>
> defined in the Network directory but JSBSim (or does it happen over on the
> FG side ) is not setting the value or it is being overwritten somehow.
>
> Any ideas where to troubleshoot this bad boy?
>
> Jack
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[Flightgear-devel] altimeter problem

[castle]

Hi,

When running a slave and master configuration noticed a problem with the
indicated altimeter.  FG version is 2.0.

Sitting on runway at KSFO master properties show

Contents of "/instrumentation/altimeter"
indicated-altitude-ft (16.21034188)
mode-c-alt-ft (0)
pressure-alt-ft (17.40378625)
serviceable (true)
setting-inhg (29.92)

while the slave properties are

Contents of "/instrumentation/altimeter"
indicated-altitude-ft (-0.3222003762)
mode-c-alt-ft (0)
pressure-alt-ft (0.8712439941)
serviceable (true)
setting-inhg (29.92)

The slave OTW scene is at runway level,  bummer!

It looks like the FDM data packet (net-fdm.hxx) has a slot for altitude as in

   double altitude; // above sea level (meters)

defined in the Network directory but JSBSim (or does it happen over on the
FG side ) is not setting the value or it is being overwritten somehow.

Any ideas where to troubleshoot this bad boy?

Jack






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Re: [Flightgear-devel] list of aircraft that don't load in fgdata

[Csaba Halász]

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Arnt Karlsen  wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:55:21 + (GMT), Heiko wrote in message
> <81676.67701...@web29516.mail.ird.yahoo.com>:
>
>> >
>> > ..this old warrior, warrants a few screenshots: ;o)
>> > https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/blob/master/737-100/shady-fgfs-screen-013.png
>> > https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/tree/master/737-100/
>>
>>
>> This shows that your graphic card has problems to work with the new
>> shaders or maybe the shaders have problems to work with the new
>> shaders ;-)
>
> ..something along those lines, yes, _how_ do I check these?
>
>
> ..does anyone else with ATI cards see this?  Or is it the
> _combination_ of ATI cards with X.org's radeon driver?

I am now running the shiny new 11.1 fglrx driver on my integrated HD4200.
The 737-100 has some silly landing lights, but other than that, it looks normal.
See http://www.imagebam.com/image/313e33117039777

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 777-200ER ground handling..

[Jacob Burbach]

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:49 PM, syd adams  wrote:
> Sorry about the late reply ...just got internet installed ... (moved
> into a new place). Now just need to find which box my router is in so
> i don't have cables strung across the  living room floor :). Thanks
> for implementing the steering ... I'll see if I can figure it out if
> you send a merge request ... although that is not in fgdata , I still
> need to figure how to update my aircraft .I may have to start another
> hangar to continue keeping them current if all else fail.
> Well , going to dig through more boxes ... ;)

Ok, I just added a merge request to the repo Heiko pointed
out...hopefully I got everything right. I made a couple more
adjustments over the patch I posted previously...cleaned up the nasal
a tad and fixed the gear animations to match to the new behavior. Good
luck with the move and let me know if there are any questions or
problems!

cheers
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] list of aircraft that don't load in fgdata

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:55:21 + (GMT), Heiko wrote in message 
<81676.67701...@web29516.mail.ird.yahoo.com>:

> Hi,
> 
> > 
> > ..this old warrior, warrants a few screenshots: ;o)
> > https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/blob/master/737-100/shady-fgfs-screen-013.png
> > https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/tree/master/737-100/
> 
> 
> This shows that your graphic card has problems to work with the new
> shaders or maybe the shaders have problems to work with the new
> shaders ;-)

..something along those lines, yes, _how_ do I check these?


..does anyone else with ATI cards see this?  Or is it the 
_combination_ of ATI cards with X.org's radeon driver?
(Would defeat FG's ambition to be cross-platform and the 
GNU spirit behind the GPL. ;o))

..does anyone of you Nvidea owners see this if you load X.org's
xserver-xorg-video-nouveau driver? 
(Also needs non-free firmware and libdrm-nouveau1a etc if you 
wanna try fly it.)



> Anyway, for this we have this nice little tool: 
> http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/
> 
> You should report your issues with the shaders there
> 
> Heiko

..done: http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=264

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Carrier Altitude

[jean pellotier]

Le 25/01/2011 21:07, Peter Brown a écrit :


On Jan 25, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Vivian Meazza wrote:

Is there a problem with maintaining vertical sync with MPCarrier? If 
there is please file a report here:


http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/list

Vivian




No Vivian,

Curt suggested that "carriers do a terrain height check and follow the 
polygon curvature of the FlightGear world".
Not knowing if there was something in place to maintain sync with 
vertical change, I commented that that would be a great idea if possible.


Peter

hi, here's a diff to have the mp carrier follow the sea level , if you 
find something usefull in it.
I didn't test it recently against the "tsunami" crossing the sea, but 
was working months ago.


jano


diff --git a/Aircraft/MPCarrier/Systems/commander.nas b/Aircraft/MPCarrier/Systems/commander.nas
index 1a85867..f49f5c5 100644
--- a/Aircraft/MPCarrier/Systems/commander.nas
+++ b/Aircraft/MPCarrier/Systems/commander.nas
@@ -31,6 +31,7 @@ var c_control_rudder  = "surface-positions/rudder-pos-deg";
 var c_control_mp_ctrl = "controls/mp-control";
 var c_control_radius  = "controls/turn-radius-ft";
 
+var index = 0;
 
 # Player constants
 var p_lat = "/position/latitude-deg";
@@ -168,6 +169,24 @@ var toggleAIControl = func {
   }
   gui.popupTip(((AI_control) ? "AI" : "Manual") ~ " control.")
 }
+###
+var ground_contact = func {
+  # set speed to 0 if near #
+  if (getprop("/ai/models/carrier[" ~ index ~ "]/controls/base-speed-kts") == 0) {
+if (getprop("/ai/models/carrier[" ~ index ~ "]/velocities/speed-kts") < 0.2) {
+  interpolate("/ai/models/carrier[" ~ index ~ "]/velocities/speed-kts",0,5)
+}
+  };
+  # try to keep the boat on the sea #
+  # be sure to have a wake non solid or the boat will climb to the moon :) 
+  # the test point is supposed to be above the "tsunami" hight, but long time not tested 
+
+  var geo_coord = geo.aircraft_position().apply_course_distance((carrier_base.getNode(c_heading).getValue()+75), 50);
+  var info = geodinfo(geo_coord.lat(),geo_coord.lon());
+  var time = 10;
+  interpolate("/ai/models/carrier[" ~ index ~ "]/position/altitude-ft",(info[0]*M2FT +2),time);
+  settimer(ground_contact,time);
+}
 
 ###
 var init = func {
@@ -187,6 +206,9 @@ var init = func {
 "MPCarriersNW");
   MPCarriersNW.mp_network_init(1);
 
+  settimer(ground_contact,200); # get error if the water is not present when first check, 
+# wich some time take times...
+
   # Make sure the current speed and course will be transmitted.
   setprop(p_control_speed,
   carrier_base.getNode(c_control_speed).getValue());
@@ -208,6 +230,8 @@ var init = func {
   p = "controls/tgt-speed-kts";
   props.globals.getNode(p, 1).alias(carrier_base.getNode(p));
 
+  index = carrier_base.getNode("id").getValue() - 1;
+
   # Avoid ugly error messages if the current carrier doesn't
   # have a walk view.
   if (!contains(globals, "walkview")) {
diff --git a/Models/Geometry/Nimitz/eisenhower.xml b/Models/Geometry/Nimitz/eisenhower.xml
index a625091..3bffac9 100644
--- a/Models/Geometry/Nimitz/eisenhower.xml
+++ b/Models/Geometry/Nimitz/eisenhower.xml
@@ -338,6 +338,7 @@ apart from most of the very excellent textures, remain. -->
 			0
 			-1
 		
+false
 	
 	
 		translate
diff --git a/Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.xml b/Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.xml
index db63b2f..c70e950 100644
--- a/Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.xml
+++ b/Models/Geometry/Nimitz/nimitz.xml
@@ -361,6 +361,7 @@ apart from most of the very excellent textures, remain. -->
 			0
 			-1
 		
+false
 	
 
 	
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 777-200ER ground handling..

[syd adams]

Sorry about the late reply ...just got internet installed ... (moved
into a new place). Now just need to find which box my router is in so
i don't have cables strung across the  living room floor :). Thanks
for implementing the steering ... I'll see if I can figure it out if
you send a merge request ... although that is not in fgdata , I still
need to figure how to update my aircraft .I may have to start another
hangar to continue keeping them current if all else fail.
Well , going to dig through more boxes ... ;)


On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Jacob Burbach  wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Heiko Schulz  wrote:
>> Sounds great- but do you know this already?: 
>> http://www.gitorious.org/syd-s-flightgear-content/777-200er
>>
>> You might wanna try a merge request
>>
>> Cheers
>> Heiko
>
> Nope, I didn't know about that one. Thanks. :)
>
> cheers
> --Jacob
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] list of aircraft that don't load in fgdata

[Heiko Schulz]

Hi,

> 
> ..this old warrior, warrants a few screenshots: ;o)
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/blob/master/737-100/shady-fgfs-screen-013.png
> https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/tree/master/737-100/


This shows that your graphic card has problems to work with the new shaders
or maybe the shaders have problems to work with the new shaders ;-)

Anyway, for this we have this nice little tool: 
http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/

You should report your issues with the shaders there

Heiko




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync

[J. Holden]

Just to comment on this recent thread, most of my scenery work is not in 
TerraSync nor complied - the areas I know of are the Caribbean between Anguilla 
and Nevis, all of Hawai'i but Ni'ihau, and I believe Oakland Int'l Airport.

I have available a finished London landclass and a finished 
Baltimore/Washington, DC landclass available on my website at 
http://www.stattosoftware.com/flightgear - they should be part of the next 
release.

The Pacific Northwest, Rio de Janeiro, parts of Hong Kong, Phoenix, Shoreham, 
Madrid, Toronto (harbor), and New England are on the mapserver, but have not 
been compiled.

Southern New York has been sent in and is waiting to be added to the mapserver. 
New Hampshire is waiting to be cleaned, which I will probably start tonight.

Switzerland land cover is almost done but does not include Sion - it is 
basically the northwestern half of the country. I have hand-created scenery for 
Sion which I have been working on for the past few years, but the terrain is so 
difficult the Vancouver, Canada project I started last week already has almost 
as many polygons.

Hope this helps,

Cheers
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] list of aircraft that don't load in fgdata

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:06:25 -0700, dave wrote in message 
<4d3f81a1.9070...@mindspring.com>:

> I have tried to load several AC that did not load with "filed to load 
> " errors.  So I did a survey of the entire up-to-date 
> fgdata.  I used an up-to-date fgrun and went through all the AC.
> 
> The following do not load even to the viewer in fgrun:
> 737-100,

..this old warrior, warrants a few screenshots: ;o)
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/blob/master/737-100/shady-fgfs-screen-013.png
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/tree/master/737-100/

> 737-300, AG-14, Airwave Xtreme 150, CRJ-200, DC-8-63,

..these looks ok.

> Fairchild Metroliner, 

..another nite warrior:
https://github.com/gasguru/flightgearthings/tree/master/nite_warriors

> Fooker50-Denim,

..invisible qualifies a perfect top score on camouflage that the
fokker50-[K,V]LM also scores, fokker50 loads ok and is visibly 
and civil.

> Jaguar, Late-29,

..another coupla nite warriors, the late29F's 
move-to-sea option is _nice_. 

> marchetti,

..invisible

> MIG-29 Fulcrum, 

..looks ok, missing a few instruments?

> Mirage F1, North American OV-10A USAFE Bronco, Short Empire, 

..looks ok.

> x24b, 

..looks invisible from the cockpit but has a bright 
blue and yellow model glider appearance.

> and Zepphelin NT07 multiplayer copilot.

..sky blue blindness. 
> 
> This is on an FC14 Linux machine.  Some of these did not load because
> of folder or file names having spaces in them, so they may load under
> Windows.
> 
> Dave P.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] [FlightGear-devel] Rogue accounts on wiki

[Gene Buckle]

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011, Tom P wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just a heads up.
>
> I always wondered why so many accounts with very suspicious names were being
> created on the Wiki.
> I think the answer is clear now, someone is trying to place "traps" for the
> unwary with links pointing to rogue pages:
>
...this is why the wiki I run requires human validation of new accounts. 
:)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] list of aircraft that don't load in fgdata

[Peter Brown]

On Jan 27, 2011, at 3:21 AM, Erik Hofman wrote:

> On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 19:06 -0700, dave perry wrote:
>> I have tried to load several AC that did not load with "filed to load 
>> " errors.  So I did a survey of the entire up-to-date 
>> fgdata.  I used an up-to-date fgrun and went through all the AC.
>> 
>> The following do not load even to the viewer in fgrun:
>> 737-100, 737-300, AG-14, Airwave Xtreme 150, CRJ-200, DC-8-63, Fairchild 
>> Metroliner, Fooker50-Denim, Jaguar, Late-29, marchetti, MIG-29 Fulcrum, 
>> Mirage F1, North American OV-10A USAFE Bronco, Short Empire, x24b, and 
>> Zepphelin NT07 multiplayer copilot.
> 
> The Bronco has been updated last week and should work properly (I tested
> it), granted .. not in fgrun.
> 
> The Fokker50-Denim file seems to be outdated and superseded by the
> livery selection system. Will update that soon.
> 
> Erik
> 


Erik,

Thanks for repairing that link in the model file in the OV10_USAFE.
While it runs as many use it, the folder needs to be cleaned up. Mr. Perry was 
correct in an Effects file was removed/missing/etc, and obviously a path was 
still lingering.

If I get a chance I'll try to sort through it all and lighten it up.

Peter
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[Flightgear-devel] Bug #263: language option broken

[Gijs de Rooy]

Just in case anyone out here know's more about the in-sim menu translations:

http://code.google.com/p/flightgear-bugs/issues/detail?id=263


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync

[Martin Spott]

Heiko Schulz wrote:

> That's exactly the point I wanted to make clear and meant with
> "updating"- unless we have a new terrain built there won't be any
> changes like changed landclasses by better datas etc. visible.

Hehe, precisely that's what I've been planning to change  :-)
    but instead of creating a nice infrastructure around the
Scenery toolchain I mostly got stuck at tinkering with the toolchain
itself  :-/

> That's what has been misunderstood.

Misunderstanding always has two ends - we're probably better talking to
each other in our native language  ;-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync

[Martin Spott]

Frederic Bouvier wrote:

>> This one might help:
>> 
>>   http://hans.fugal.net/blog/2007/06/05/terrasync-prefetch/
> 
> Something equivalent (the prefetch) is implemented in fgrun

Yup, I knew, but didn't find any URL specific to the feature which was
suitable for posting via EMail  ;-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync

[Heiko Schulz]

Hi,


> Only after new Terrain has been built from the respective
> sources and
> uploaded to the repository beind TerraSync.
> We've already done this for a few places in the world, but
> these are
> just isolated samples (the popular Caribbean islands - try
> TFFJ from
> TerraSync, Sylt, the KOSH area   maybe I forgot
> one or two). I
> tried to insert a few more places but didn't manage to get
> the tile
> boundaries' elevations to match the surrounding 'stock'
> 1.0.1 Terrain.

That's exactly the point I wanted to make clear and meant with "updating"- 
unless we have a new terrain built there won't be any changes like changed 
landclasses by better datas etc. visible. 

That's what has been misunderstood.

Cheers
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync

[Frederic Bouvier]

> > Wrong statement in the forum. TerraSync only updates the models,
> > not the terrain.
> 
> If this would be true, then you've identified a bug  ;-)
> This one might help:
> 
>   http://hans.fugal.net/blog/2007/06/05/terrasync-prefetch/

Something equivalent (the prefetch) is implemented in fgrun

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync

[Martin Spott]

Heiko Schulz wrote:

> So when the terrain has changed (new airport added) I have the new
> scenery with a new airport?

Only after new Terrain has been built from the respective sources and
uploaded to the repository beind TerraSync.
We've already done this for a few places in the world, but these are
just isolated samples (the popular Caribbean islands - try TFFJ from
TerraSync, Sylt, the KOSH area   maybe I forgot one or two). I
tried to insert a few more places but didn't manage to get the tile
boundaries' elevations to match the surrounding 'stock' 1.0.1 Terrain.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync

[Heiko Schulz]

Hi,

> "... SIRX2009, as impassable dipositions of the Ministry of
> Environment, can
> never be a work (for the sake of profit)for profit, but
> will be made
> available free to everyone who had need (through specific
> requests to the
> Ministry or ENAC ..." 
> 
> so it looks like it cannot be GPL.
> 
> However it looks fabulous.
> 
> Vivian

According to this statement 
http://www.flightforum.ch/forum/showpost.php?p=735510&postcount=53 
on the swiss www.flugsimulation.ch it will be payware, so not free anymore. The 
question is, will it be still not for profit?

Heiko



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync

[Vivian Meazza]

Heiko wrote

> -Original Message-
> From: Schulz [mailto:aeitsch...@yahoo.de]
> Sent: 27 January 2011 12:52
> To: FlightGear developers discussions
> Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync
> 
> Hello,
> 
> >i wanted to go to LSGS to see if the scenery based on Corinne data is in,
> >as i read somewhere in the forum.
> 
> Wrong statement in the forum. TerraSync only updates the models, not the
> terrain. So now Corinne data yet. Statto aka John Holden is working on the
> landclasses for switzerland using Corinne, but his work still needs some
> while.
> 
> >Impossible in git...once i got terrain but since only water. did try
> >anything including git pull, but not working with Ubuntu.
> 
> Are you using FGRun? Make sure your select terrasync-folder in the first
> row and the directory selected is "1".
> You need a while to wait until it is downloaded, then you have to refresh
> your airport list.
> 
> >Will it be possible one day to use:
> >http://sirx.flightsimulatorcenter.com/
> >with the corine data?
> 
> I don't think so. My latest information says that SIRX will be releases as
> payware.
> And even this woulden't be a problem someone has to do the work and create
> that scenery. This is currently much more difficult than you think.
> I wonder if the "someone" is you.
> 

This is what their website (verbatim) says:

"... SIRX2009, as impassable dipositions of the Ministry of Environment, can
never be a work (for the sake of profit)for profit, but will be made
available free to everyone who had need (through specific requests to the
Ministry or ENAC ..." 

so it looks like it cannot be GPL.

However it looks fabulous.

Vivian





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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync

[Heiko Schulz]

Hi,

> Heiko Schulz wrote:
> 
> > Wrong statement in the forum. TerraSync only updates
> the models, not
> > the terrain.
> 
> If this would be true, then you've identified a bug 
> ;-)
> This one might help:
> 
>   http://hans.fugal.net/blog/2007/06/05/terrasync-prefetch/
> 
> Cheers,
>     Martin.

So when the terrain has changed (new airport added) I have the new scenery with 
a new airport?



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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync

[Martin Spott]

Heiko Schulz wrote:

> Wrong statement in the forum. TerraSync only updates the models, not
> the terrain.

If this would be true, then you've identified a bug  ;-)
This one might help:

  http://hans.fugal.net/blog/2007/06/05/terrasync-prefetch/

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Terrasync

[Heiko Schulz]

Hello,

>i wanted to go to LSGS to see if the scenery based on Corinne data is in, >as 
>i read somewhere in the forum.

Wrong statement in the forum. TerraSync only updates the models, not the 
terrain. So now Corinne data yet. Statto aka John Holden is working on the 
landclasses for switzerland using Corinne, but his work still needs some while. 

>Impossible in git...once i got terrain but since only water. did try >anything 
>including git pull, but not working with Ubuntu.

Are you using FGRun? Make sure your select terrasync-folder in the first row 
and the directory selected is "1".
You need a while to wait until it is downloaded, then you have to refresh your 
airport list.

>Will it be possible one day to use:
>http://sirx.flightsimulatorcenter.com/
>with the corine data?

I don't think so. My latest information says that SIRX will be releases as 
payware.
And even this woulden't be a problem someone has to do the work and create that 
scenery. This is currently much more difficult than you think.
I wonder if the "someone" is you.

Cheers
Heiko






  
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[Flightgear-devel] Terrasync

[Michael Sgier]

Hi
i wanted to go to LSGS to see if the scenery based on Corinne data is in, as i 
read somewhere in the forum.Impossible in git...once i got terrain but since 
only water. did try anything including git pull, but not working with 
Ubuntu.Will it be possible oneday to use:
http://sirx.flightsimulatorcenter.com/
with the corine data?Cheers Michael




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Re: [Flightgear-devel] VATSIM support?

[Arnt Karlsen]

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 21:38:18 -0500, Chris wrote in message 
<1296095898.27791.1.camel@chrison-Aspire-5741G>:

> On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 23:41 -0700, jac...@lfstech.com wrote:
> > How about a show of hands?  Is there enough interest and volunteers
> > to organize a team to tackle the problem?
> 
> As I said in my original post, I'm not a programmer so,
> unfortunately, I couldn't help in that regard.  However, I'd be
> willing to help as an end-user/tester.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Chris

..and, you are able to hire a Vatsim programmer to do the 
job for you, you then own the work because you hired someone 
to do it for you, therefore you can license your end product 
any darn way you please.  Now, if you hired man signs that 
NDA after you hire him, chances are you will be bound by 
that NDA because the reasonable assumption will suggest he 
did it on your behalf to do the job you hired him to do. 

..now, if you can find somebody who has already signed 
Vatsim's NDA, you are then able to hire them to do the 
job _without_ disclosing any Vatsim IP to you, it's all 
in how you, or your lawyer ;o) defines the job.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] list of aircraft that don't load in fgdata

[Frederic Bouvier]

> Class 1: fgfs and fgrun handle recursion of paths differently. 
> 

Anders, you are correct concerning the failure of fgrun to load both the Short 
Empire and the ZLT-NT-copilot. These as well as the Jaguar fail to load in 
fgrun because of differences in the way recursive paths are handled in fgrun 
and fgfs xml parsers. 
> 
Fixed 

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] list of aircraft that don't load in fgdata

[Erik Hofman]

On Tue, 2011-01-25 at 19:06 -0700, dave perry wrote:
> I have tried to load several AC that did not load with "filed to load 
> " errors.  So I did a survey of the entire up-to-date 
> fgdata.  I used an up-to-date fgrun and went through all the AC.
> 
> The following do not load even to the viewer in fgrun:
> 737-100, 737-300, AG-14, Airwave Xtreme 150, CRJ-200, DC-8-63, Fairchild 
> Metroliner, Fooker50-Denim, Jaguar, Late-29, marchetti, MIG-29 Fulcrum, 
> Mirage F1, North American OV-10A USAFE Bronco, Short Empire, x24b, and 
> Zepphelin NT07 multiplayer copilot.

The Bronco has been updated last week and should work properly (I tested
it), granted .. not in fgrun.

The Fokker50-Denim file seems to be outdated and superseded by the
livery selection system. Will update that soon.

Erik


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Re: [Flightgear-devel] JSBSim merge

[Erik Hofman]

On Wed, 2011-01-26 at 20:53 +0100, Bertrand Coconnier wrote:
> Let's take an example : let's say I develop some code for JSBSim to
> take into account FG ground material in the landing gears friction
> forces. For that, I need to modify both JSBSim library *and*
> FlightGear glue code. So I will submit a patch to JSBSim (for the
> friction calcs) and another patch to FlightGear (to give JSBSim access
> to FG material data). The patch for FG glue code cannot be applied
> readily : first JSBSim needs to be patched and then copied in
> FlightGear (or otherwise FG compilation will fail). Once JSBSim last
> revision is copied in FlightGear the second part of the patch must be
> committed immediately in FlightGear (otherwise FG compilation will
> fail). And then the patched glue code will be copied back in JSBSim.
> Notice that the patch can be applied at any moment in JSBSim, even 1
> month or 1 year after its submission. On the other hand, some tight
> synchronization is needed on the FlightGear side if you don't want FG
> compilation to break. Do you think such a process is sustainable ? I
> don't.

While it's a valid point I don't see it being as big as a problems as
you seem to do. First of all the former situation wasn't ideal either
and secondly you could put out a git merge request for the particular
changes.

Projects like OpenEagles seems to handle this well and so can FlightGear
I believe.

Erik


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