Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-21 Thread Olivier
Hi James,




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 Thanks, I've committed these.
Thanks to you for committing the French language files.

However, the first work would be to synchronise the language files with the 
English language files, because if they are not synced, the new menu entries 
between 2.8 and 2.10 will appear in English in other languages, eg for the 
flight recorder.

As stated here:
https://www.gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/blobs/master/Translations/fr/sys.xml

Last synchronized with English master resource on 2012-September-21 for 
FlightGear 2.9.0Olivier
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-21 Thread Eugenio Mondini
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 08:12:27PM +, Olivier wrote:
 Hi James,
 
 
 
 
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 Envoyé le : Samedi 19 janvier 2013 15h35
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  Thanks, I've committed these.
 Thanks to you for committing the French language files.
 
 However, the first work would be to synchronise the language files with the 
 English language files, because if they are not synced, the new menu entries 
 between 2.8 and 2.10 will appear in English in other languages, eg for the 
 flight recorder.
 
 As stated here:
 https://www.gitorious.org/fg/fgdata/blobs/master/Translations/fr/sys.xml
 
 Last synchronized with English master resource on 2012-September-21 for 
 FlightGear 2.9.0Olivier

I added the missing strings manually and it worked.

The thing I think does not work are accents in the splashscreen
translations, Is this because of the different font?

Also the translations for common aircraft menus worked only on the
c172p from what I could see, not on the 777 for example.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-20 Thread Mathias Fröhlich

Hi Stuart,

On Friday, January 18, 2013 00:04:35 Stuart Buchanan wrote:
 1) Are there any significant features/enhancements that have been
 missed?  (Matthias: what HLA enhancements have been made, and can you
 provide a couple of suitable sentences describing them?  I'm happy to
 wordsmith any text)
Well, nothing user visible I think.
There is a lot of private code pushed into the repositry, and at some point 
this tied together will make a lot of sense I think. But up to now just a lot 
of loose ends.
What is there is a sketch of an AI module working on top of hla objects, this 
sketch also shows how you can roll on ground - at least for solid ground.
Also fgviewer gained a lot of unfinished hla code that enables fgviewer to sit 
on a hla configured view - more or less. At least a python script that I 
regularily use for development providing this works fine.
Together with fgviewer there is also some work done on the scenegraph that is 
used there. fgviewer is since some time just able to display a whole world 
paged model that has the stg/btg files in the leafs. With this work there is 
also some level of detail work done in the leaf nodes that is used by the 
usual fgfs scene. On my setups here these changes accounted for some 
performance gains which are also partly visible with fgfs.
So not sure if this is worth to be mentioned as there is nothing finally useful 
for an end user there.

Greetings and thanks for collecting this.

Mathias

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-20 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All,

I've taken a quick pass through the git logs from the last 6 months
and added a selection of new/updated aircraft.  I've used a somewhat
arbitrary judgement about what to include, and it's likely I've missed
some, particularly if there was a major update made in a single commit
with an innocuous commit message :).

I'd also like to have a set of images/videos illustrating the specific
new features where possible.  I'm thinking of something different from
the screenshot contest that we usually run (Gijs - are you intending
to run that again this release?),  more of a gallery that goes through
the various features with an image illustrating each in turn.

So, if anyone has particular images to highlight their favourite new
features, please get in touch.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-20 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi,

 I'm thinking of something different from the screenshot contest that we 
 usually run

Usually Curt just asks for images and then Durk, I and a few others send in 
some shots. Last year's screenshot contest was really a special case, to 
celebrate FlightGear's 15th birthday.

I didn't plan to run a contest for this release and as I don't have much time 
this week, it'd would've been to late to organize something anyway.

I think the usual approach of just collecting a few shots highlighting specific 
new features works well. Do note that we'd like to have all shots in the same 
aspect ratio, so they can be put together nicely. I don't remember the exact 
number, but I believe it was something like 3:2. For banners, (forum, facebook, 
Google+) we also need a few wide images, or images that can be easily cut to a 
landscape size, without cutting the subject in half.

Cheers,

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-19 Thread James Turner

On 18 Jan 2013, at 20:58, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote:

 Whoop, that is bad. I'm happy to merge translation changes, will do French 
 one tomorrow. Any other volunteers for other languages? Since I only speak 
 English it would be better if two people did each - one to author, one to 
 review. 
 

This is merged and pushed, and I am chasing people for updated Dutch 
translations. Any other language patches I will apply if emailed to me!

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-19 Thread Eugenio Mondini
On Saturday 19 January 2013 09:35:38 James Turner wrote:
 On 18 Jan 2013, at 20:58, James Turner zakal...@mac.com wrote:
  Whoop, that is bad. I'm happy to merge translation changes, will do
  French one tomorrow. Any other volunteers for other languages? Since I
  only speak English it would be better if two people did each - one to
  author, one to review.
 
 This is merged and pushed, and I am chasing people for updated Dutch
 translations. Any other language patches I will apply if emailed to me!

Hi James, for 2.8 this was coordinated by ThorstenB in the forum [0].

You can find the updated spanish files here:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j1c9077psmkyt5k/5Lp_xlnUiv/menu.xml
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j1c9077psmkyt5k/1BSeAiKyug/options.xml
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j1c9077psmkyt5k/cbjsL6Qq3p/sys.xml
It was asked for review in the spanish forums [1] but I'm still waiting for 
confirmation.
Thanks.

[0] http://flightgear.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42t=16876
[1] http://flightgear.creatuforo.com/-temas31044.html#31044

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-19 Thread James Turner

On 19 Jan 2013, at 13:48, Eugenio Mondini e.mond...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can find the updated spanish files here:
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j1c9077psmkyt5k/5Lp_xlnUiv/menu.xml
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j1c9077psmkyt5k/1BSeAiKyug/options.xml
 https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j1c9077psmkyt5k/cbjsL6Qq3p/sys.xml
 It was asked for review in the spanish forums [1] but I'm still waiting for 
 confirmation.
 Thanks.

Thanks, I've committed these. For future updates a single zip or patch would be 
easier, dropbox or emailed to me direct is fine.

Regards,
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-18 Thread Gijs de Rooy
Hi Stuart,

 I'm currently editing the 2.10.0 Change Log,  which I expect to use as
 the basis for the release announcement text.

Just wondering, shouldn't we market it as FlightGear 2.10? The changelog
is also valid for a bugfix release (2.10.1) and installer fixes (last time we 
had 
a 2.8.0.5 for Windows), so the 0 really makes no sense.

 2) We normally highlight particularly exciting new and improved
 aircraft, but I have struggled to keep up with the rapid pace of
 development.

Didn't the A-4 receive some extensive updating lately? :-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-18 Thread James Turner

On 18 Jan 2013, at 00:04, Stuart Buchanan stuar...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm still re-wording and re-arranging some of the content, but the
 current state can be found here:
 
 http://wiki.flightgear.org/Changelog_2.10.0
 
 I have two asks:
 
 1) Are there any significant features/enhancements that have been
 missed?  (Matthias: what HLA enhancements have been made, and can you
 provide a couple of suitable sentences describing them?  I'm happy to
 wordsmith any text)

- flight-path history on the map is nice, that's one of mine.

- ThorstenB added the capability to save replay tapes to disk and load them, 
which allows nice tutorials to be created

- MP dialog now has a dynamic server list, showing online servers only.

- AITraffic takeoff and landings look more realistic visually, or rather no 
long look unrealistic :)

- route-manager support for loading Navigraph procedures is more robust, but we 
also offer 'default' SIDs and approaches if the real procedure data is not 
installed. This generates a plausible straight in approach and terminal 
waypoints based on the route course, though it may put you into a mountain in 
hilly terrain.

Any more detailed needed about these, ping me. The flight history is very 
'screenshot-able', the other less so.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-18 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Gijs de Rooy wrote:
 Just wondering, shouldn't we market it as FlightGear 2.10? The changelog
 is also valid for a bugfix release (2.10.1) and installer fixes (last time
 we had a 2.8.0.5 for Windows), so the 0 really makes no sense.

Good point. I'll do that.

 2) We normally highlight particularly exciting new and improved
 aircraft, but I have struggled to keep up with the rapid pace of
 development.

 Didn't the A-4 receive some extensive updating lately? :-)

It did, but it's still behind the quality of many other aircraft and I'm
not happy with the FDM yet, so I don't want to emphasize it too much.

On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 1:47 PM, James Turner wrote:
 - flight-path history on the map is nice, that's one of mine.

 - ThorstenB added the capability to save replay tapes to disk and load them, 
 which allows nice tutorials to be created

 - MP dialog now has a dynamic server list, showing online servers only.

 - AITraffic takeoff and landings look more realistic visually, or rather no 
 long look unrealistic :)

 - route-manager support for loading Navigraph procedures is more robust, but 
 we also offer 'default' SIDs and approaches if the real procedure data is not 
 installed. This generates a plausible straight in approach and terminal 
 waypoints based on the route course, though it may put you into a mountain in 
 hilly terrain.

Thanks for those.  For some reason I had completely forgotten about
the first two, despite having used both.

I'll get them added.

-Stuart

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-18 Thread Olivier
Hi all,


I'll translate the annoucement in French when finished.

The languages were - to my knowledge - not synced for 2.10. This means the 
startup informations strings + the changes since 2.8 in the menus are not 
translated. At least not into French. A MR is pending in fgdata for French, but 
it does not cover every change since the source files were not synchronised.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-18 Thread James Turner


On 18 Jan 2013, at 19:18, Olivier acom...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I'll translate the annoucement in French when finished.
 
 The languages were - to my knowledge - not synced for 2.10. This means the 
 startup informations strings + the changes since 2.8 in the menus are not 
 translated. At least not into French. A MR is pending in fgdata for French, 
 but it does not cover every change since the source files were not 
 synchronised.

Whoop, that is bad. I'm happy to merge translation changes, will do French one 
tomorrow. Any other volunteers for other languages? Since I only speak English 
it would be better if two people did each - one to author, one to review. 

James

 
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[Flightgear-devel] 2.10.0 Changelog - help required

2013-01-17 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All,

I'm currently editing the 2.10.0 Change Log,  which I expect to use as
the basis for the release announcement text.   Thank-you to everyone
who has been contributing items over the last 6 months.

I'm still re-wording and re-arranging some of the content, but the
current state can be found here:

http://wiki.flightgear.org/Changelog_2.10.0

I have two asks:

1) Are there any significant features/enhancements that have been
missed?  (Matthias: what HLA enhancements have been made, and can you
provide a couple of suitable sentences describing them?  I'm happy to
wordsmith any text)


2) We normally highlight particularly exciting new and improved
aircraft, but I have struggled to keep up with the rapid pace of
development.  Please let me know of any particular aircraft that you
think should be included.  To qualify they must be in FGDATA, and must
have been introduced/improved significantly since 2.8.0.

Thanks,

-Stuart

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