Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-12-02 Thread Vassilii Khachaturov
I'm sure if I thought about it longer I would find some more arguments. I have one to add: You need a graphical desktop in order to deal with the web forum because 'browsing' this forum with Lynx is a PITA (this is one of the rare occasions that I use this acronym ;-) Agreed, and this is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-30 Thread Tim Moore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jon Stockill wrote: Alex Perry wrote: I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the FlightGear community will be decisively split between forums versus mailing lists if I ask people's preferences ... so I'm not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-30 Thread Jim Wilson
From: Curtis Olson Now that I am hosting the FlightGear web site with a commercial hosting service, it becomes quite easy to setup online forums using phpBB2. I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the FlightGear community will be decisively split

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-30 Thread Melchior FRANZ
I don't really care about which form is used for user support. If passers-by prefer a web-based forum, then this *may* be the better choice. (But also consider that someone has to do the support. These are to a certain degree developers, so even here it's not unimportant what those prefer. Unless

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-30 Thread Martin Spott
Melchior FRANZ wrote: I'm sure if I thought about it longer I would find some more arguments. I have one to add: You need a graphical desktop in order to deal with the web forum because 'browsing' this forum with Lynx is a PITA (this is one of the rare occasions that I use this acronym ;-)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-30 Thread Douglas Campos
+1 for users forum -1000 for developers forum just my 0.01 cents. On 11/30/06, Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Melchior FRANZ wrote: I'm sure if I thought about it longer I would find some more arguments. I have one to add: You need a graphical desktop in order to deal with the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* Curtis Olson -- Wednesday 29 November 2006 05:24: I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. Exactly. I can't imagine to take part in forum based development. Is this anything that is worth exploring? No. Is it worth having both options available? Not that I knew.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Stuart Buchanan
--- Curtis Olson wrote: Now that I am hosting the FlightGear web site with a commercial hosting service, it becomes quite easy to setup online forums using phpBB2. I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the FlightGear community will be decisively split between

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Jon Stockill
Stuart Buchanan wrote: So, my tuppence worth: - Have a structure user forum, and possibly wind down the -user list in the future. I'd disagree - if anything you should create another mailing list to gate the forum messages to. -- Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Leidson Campos A. Ferreira
For FlightGear developers. I think a good idea keep development discussions into mailing lists, because this way is driven to developers only. Maybe with a forum, questions with no relevance, help developers give no focus to important development questions. For end users For end users, forum

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Josh Babcock
Curtis Olson wrote: On 11/28/06, Ron Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this is the biggest argument against forums. They're only accessable when the server is up This is similar with email lists ... you can only post and receive postings when the list server is running and configured

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Josh Babcock
Jon Stockill wrote: Stuart Buchanan wrote: So, my tuppence worth: - Have a structure user forum, and possibly wind down the -user list in the future. I'd disagree - if anything you should create another mailing list to gate the forum messages to. Of course, at some point in the future

[Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Alex Perry
I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the FlightGear community will be decisively split between forums versus mailing lists if I ask people's preferences ... so I'm not expecting a consensus here. Is this anything that is worth exploring? I'd also hate to look

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:27:29 -0800, Alex wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the FlightGear community will be decisively split between forums versus mailing lists if I ask people's preferences ... so I'm not

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Maik Justus
Hi Curt, I prefer the mailing list. I think there are much tot little contributions for splitting the topics in a forum (how many contributors we have?). Up to now it's no problem to have the survey of all contributions. If someone prefer the thread-sorted view: we have it on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 13:29, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:27:29 -0800, Alex wrote in message I'd also hate to look in two places. On the other hand, changing how we present the mailing list archives so they look like a forum _and_ allow replying if you have logged

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Curtis Olson
On 11/29/06, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On Wednesday 29 November 2006 13:29, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:27:29 -0800, Alex wrote in message I'd also hate to look in two places. On the other hand, changing how we present the mailing list archives so they look like a forum

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Curt wrote: I just realize I have said absolutely nothing. :-) I think I'm going to let them run just a bit longer and then maybe we can an idea if enough people think they are useful and are using them. If the community is split into two different camps, communication is going to suffer,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Curtis Olson
On 11/29/06, Jon S. Berndt wrote: If the community is split into two different camps, communication is going to suffer, plain and simple. I can receive email wherever I am and reply or not. I can set up filters and rules in my email program to sort the email posts. If the mails to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Jon S. Berndt
On 11/29/06, Jon S. Berndt wrote: If the community is split into two different camps, communication is going to suffer, plain and simple. I can receive email wherever I am and reply or not. I can set up filters and rules in my email program to sort the email posts. If the mails to the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Dene
Jon S. Berndt wrote: On 11/29/06, *Jon S. Berndt* wrote: If the community is split into two different camps, communication is going to suffer, plain and simple. I can receive email wherever I am and reply or not. I can set up filters and rules in my email

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Wednesday 29 November 2006 05:24, Curtis Olson wrote: Now that I am hosting the FlightGear web site with a commercial hosting service, it becomes quite easy to setup online forums using phpBB2. I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the FlightGear

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums integration thought

2006-11-29 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Thursday 30 November 2006 06:20, Jon S. Berndt wrote: Curt wrote: I just realize I have said absolutely nothing. :-) I think I'm going to let them run just a bit longer and then maybe we can an idea if enough people think they are useful and are using them. If the community is

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-29 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
On Wednesday 29 November 2006 14:48, Josh Babcock wrote: Curtis Olson wrote: On 11/28/06, Ron Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this is the biggest argument against forums. They're only accessable when the server is up This is similar with email lists ... you can only post and

[Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Curtis Olson
Now that I am hosting the FlightGear web site with a commercial hosting service, it becomes quite easy to setup online forums using phpBB2. I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the FlightGear community will be decisively split between forums versus mailing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread John Wojnaroski
Curtis Olson wrote: Now that I am hosting the FlightGear web site with a commercial hosting service, it becomes quite easy to setup online forums using phpBB2. I know our development culture is built around mailing lists. I'm sure the FlightGear community will be decisively split

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Curtis Olson
I'm just fiddling around and anything can be changed, but here is a first whack. http://www.flightgear.org/forums/ As Dave said we can setup any structure of categories and forums. Right now I've created one category with all the forum topics inside, but we could certainly split things out

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Curtis Olson
And I'm a moron and just wiped out the whole thing 2 seconds ago. Let me try again ... thanks for your patience ... :-( Curt. On 11/28/06, Curtis Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm just fiddling around and anything can be changed, but here is a first whack.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Pigeon
A backup communication method might be good, but I'm not keen at all on the idea of having to look two places for the same kind of content. My feeling is that it should be one or the other. Agreed. I think a forum has advantages over say a mailing list. But then having both might

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Ron Jensen
On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 23:01 -0600, Curtis Olson wrote: And I'm a moron and just wiped out the whole thing 2 seconds ago. Let me try again ... thanks for your patience ... :-( Curt. And this is the biggest argument against forums. They're only accessable when the server is up and its

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:29:05 +1100, Pigeon wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A backup communication method might be good, but I'm not keen at all on the idea of having to look two places for the same kind of content. My feeling is that it should be one or the other.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Curtis Olson
On 11/28/06, Ron Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this is the biggest argument against forums. They're only accessable when the server is up This is similar with email lists ... you can only post and receive postings when the list server is running and configured correctly, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Forums?

2006-11-28 Thread Dene
Curtis Olson wrote: On 11/28/06, *Ron Jensen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And this is the biggest argument against forums. They're only accessable when the server is up This is similar with email lists ... you can only post and receive postings when the