Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 20, Issue 45

2004-12-18 Thread Jorge Van Hemelryck
On Fri, 17 Dec 2004 22:43:53 +0100 Richard Andrews wrote: > This is the same sort of idea I had been toying with. As a newbie to fg I > felt > that one tool that would be very handy would be a form of Linux QT > FG-launcher. It would simply generate the appropriate config file from the > users

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GUI Improvements was: Things to do to improveFlightgear

2004-12-18 Thread Richard Andrews
Jorge Van Hemelryck wrote: > Have you had a look at fgrun ? It works in exactly the way you've just > described. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/fgrun/ > No I hadn't seen that - I'll take a look at it this weekend. > I'm pretty sure that quite a few Linux / UNIX users would like to > benefit

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 20, Issue 45

2004-12-18 Thread Erik Hofman
Jorge Van Hemelryck wrote: Have you had a look at fgrun ? It works in exactly the way you've just described. http://sourceforge.net/projects/fgrun/ Source only so far (except for windows), but maybe it's time to make some binary packages for other systems as well. I believe the Windows FlightGear p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 20, Issue 45

2004-12-18 Thread Paul Surgeon
On Saturday, 18 December 2004 11:43, Jorge Van Hemelryck wrote: > - we could create another app, which would be meant to communicate with > FlightGear in realtime (probably via the telnet interface), something > more elaborate than the http interface, in the same way that fgrun does > for command-l

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Mac OS X Application Bundle Available

2004-12-18 Thread Arthur Wiebe
My package actually does not use a .fgfsrc file. It passes the flags straight to fgfs. And I don't understand resource forks either. And have never worked with them. I couldn't get fgrun to compile on OSX and so have started to write one that's OS X native using Cocoa and AppleScript. (Applescript

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Mac OS X Application Bundle Available

2004-12-18 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Arthur Wiebe wrote : I couldn't get fgrun to compile on OSX and so have started to write one that's OS X native using Cocoa and AppleScript. (Applescript Studio) You should try to share your experience / problems with fgrun in order to get help. I can check your patches if you have some. -Fred _

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Mac OS X Application Bundle Available

2004-12-18 Thread Arthur Wiebe
Should I post it here or in the fgrun mailing list? I assume here since there's only one person subscribed to the fgrun list. I was getting this error: if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -I/FlightGear/include -g -O2 -MT run_posix.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/run_posix.Tpo" \ -c -o run_posix.o `test

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Video card recommendations

2004-12-18 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 00:20:44 -0500, Norman wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Curtis L. Olson writes: > > > > I am involved with a project where we are going to setup a > > multi-channel visual system running flightgear. (3 PC's, 3 > > monitors.) We can budget about $150-200 for the graph

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Mac OS X Application Bundle Available

2004-12-18 Thread Frederic Bouvier
As far as I know, there is no fgrun list, so post here. it looks like your implementation of termios.h is incomplete. try changing the line : term.c_oflag &= ~( OLCUC | ONLCR ); by term.c_oflag &= ~ONLCR; -Fred Arthur Wiebe wrote : Should I post it here or in the fgrun mailing list? I assume here s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172P Model Year?

2004-12-18 Thread David Luff
Dave Martin writes: > On Friday 17 Dec 2004 22:27, David Megginson wrote: > > > Totally up to you, but my 172P POH is for the 1981 model > > However, I also discovered that the early 172s had more dihedral and a > slightly different shape to the aerofoil. Comparing this the FG 172P, which > ha

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172P Model Year?

2004-12-18 Thread David Megginson
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:27:09 +, David Luff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've always assumed that it's a fairly late model injected 172, in order to > justify the current lack of carb heating in the engine model ;-) The 172P is carbureted, unfortunately. All the best, David -- http://ww

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Flightgear-devel Digest, Vol 20, Issue 45

2004-12-18 Thread Martin Spott
Erik Hofman wrote: > I think most of the other binary distributions include fgrun. At least > IRIX and Solaris do. ^^^ Really ? I think I didn't add it to the package because 'fgrun' doesn't have this priority in my eyes but I can add it the next time, Martin. -- Unix _IS_ user

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172P Model Year?

2004-12-18 Thread David Luff
David Megginson writes: > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:27:09 +, David Luff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've always assumed that it's a fairly late model injected 172, in order to > > justify the current lack of carb heating in the engine model ;-) > > The 172P is carbureted, unfortunately. >

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172P Model Year?

2004-12-18 Thread Dave Martin
While you're there, is there any chance of a magneto-related performance loss? ie: when you run left mags only you get a power loss. Cheers :) On Saturday 18 Dec 2004 17:37, David Luff wrote: > David Megginson writes: > > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 15:27:09 +, David Luff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172P Model Year?

2004-12-18 Thread David Megginson
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:37:35 +, David Luff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah! Carb heating has just moved several places up my TODO list! I'm not sure that the engine model should even be dealing with carb heating -- it would be just as easy for something else to tell the engine the temperatur

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172P Model Year?

2004-12-18 Thread David Megginson
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:15:46 +, Dave Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While you're there, is there any chance of a magneto-related performance loss? > > ie: when you run left mags only you get a power loss. It would be nice to see that generalized a bit, so that we can eventually model fo

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Mac OS X Application Bundle Available

2004-12-18 Thread Arthur Wiebe
I must say that fgrun looks like a lot of bad coding to me. After doing what you said that file compiled but then I got this error: Making all in src make all-am if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -I/FlightGear/include -g -O2 -MT fgrun_pty.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/fgrun_pty.Tpo" \ -c -o fgrun_pt

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172P Model Year?

2004-12-18 Thread Dave Martin
Simulated carb icing might be exciting too (coupled to weather, of course :-) ) It would certainly make you remember to pull the lever ;) On Saturday 18 Dec 2004 19:39, David Megginson wrote: > On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 19:15:46 +, Dave Martin > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While you're there,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Mac OS X Application Bundle Available

2004-12-18 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Arthur Wiebe a écrit : I must say that fgrun looks like a lot of bad coding to me. After doing what you said that file compiled but then I got this error: Making all in src make all-am if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -I/FlightGear/include -g -O2 -MT fgrun_pty.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/fgrun_pty.T

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Mac OS X Application Bundle Available

2004-12-18 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Arthur Wiebe wrote : if g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -I/FlightGear/include -g -O2 -MT fgrun_pty.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/fgrun_pty.Tpo" \ -c -o fgrun_pty.o `test -f 'fgrun_pty.cxx' || echo './'`fgrun_pty.cxx; \ then mv -f ".deps/fgrun_pty.Tpo" ".deps/fgrun_pty.Po"; \ else rm -f ".deps/fgrun_pty.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] C172P Model Year?

2004-12-18 Thread David Megginson
On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 20:20:37 +, Dave Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Simulated carb icing might be exciting too (coupled to weather, of > course :-) ) > > It would certainly make you remember to pull the lever ;) Some day, we might model then entire air induction system, the way that we

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Mac OS X Application Bundle Available

2004-12-18 Thread Arthur Wiebe
OK, I guess I do crazy things when without knowledge. :) The time_t error went away when including time.h, but login_tty() is still undefined. Looking in the login_tty manual page it says you need to include it with: #include So I added that include at the top of fgrun_pty.cxx but it still does

[Flightgear-devel] C172P Panel now hacked

2004-12-18 Thread Dave Martin
I've done most of what I intended with the 172P now except for the landing/taxi lights on the wing (I'm having to learn a lot to get something looking good). I wanted everything to 'just work' so I re-added the alpha-layers to the textures which were transparent (you could see the panel thru th