[Flightgear-devel] Re: gui theming
* Jim Wilson -- Wednesday 13 July 2005 01:11: [dialog transparency] As far as making it user adjustable, that sounds great. It *is* user adjustable, just like most of fgfs: (1) Edit the XML file. :-) (2) $ fgfs --prop:/sim/gui/colors/background/alpha=0.8 (3) change this value in the property browser and re-init the GUI (could be automated with a key binding) But there was a bug that I introduced very late, after which I hadn't tested transparency any more. This is fixed in CVS, but I'm sure there are other bugs left. The style is still available as http://members.aon.at/mfranz/test-style.xml [3 kB] and can be tested like this: $ fgfs --config=/tmp/test-style.xml updating plib to CVS/HEAD is recommended. (Otherwise text starting from negative coordinates disappears.) Further plib fixes to come. m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-devel] Re: gui theming
* Melchior FRANZ -- Wednesday 13 July 2005 08:51: [dialog transparency] The GUI style is now switchable at runtime. I've put the two available styles into $FG_ROOT/gui/styles/ -- Shift-F10 cycles through all (two) styles in this directory. Of course, the new style can be chosen from the command line or ~/.fgfsrc, too: $ fgfs --prop:/sim/current-gui=1 But why not simply replace the old style with the new? - the old style is faster -- two or three frames per second on my archaic graphics card! - in bright environments the old style may be better suited - for hysterical raisins I didn't intend $FG_ROOT/gui/styles/ to become a collection of dozens of styles. Just two or three for different purposes (and as many local styles as people want to have there, of course :-). m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: gui theming
On July 11, 2005 04:26 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Screenshot du jour (and my current style; more that just a test): http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui8.jpg [50 kB] m. That's so nice. I would have no objection if that is made default. Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-devel] Re: gui theming
* Ampere K. Hardraade -- Tuesday 12 July 2005 19:15: On July 11, 2005 04:26 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui8.jpg [50 kB] That's so nice. I would have no objection if that is made default. Maybe a new style for fgfs 1.0.0 would be a good idea. I'm biased, though, and can't vote for it. :-) BTW: the ugly pink combo field is due to a (design?) bug in plib. I'll try to get the pui maintainer to fix it. Also, I'll submit a fix for the bad font kerning after letters f and j and possibly others. m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: gui theming
On Tuesday 12 July 2005 19:15, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On July 11, 2005 04:26 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Screenshot du jour (and my current style; more that just a test): http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui8.jpg [50 kB] m. That's so nice. I would have no objection if that is made default. Ampere I agree. It looks really great. Best Regards, Oliver C. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-devel] Re: gui theming
From: Melchior FRANZ * Ampere K. Hardraade -- Tuesday 12 July 2005 19:15: On July 11, 2005 04:26 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui8.jpg [50 kB] That's so nice. I would have no objection if that is made default. Maybe a new style for fgfs 1.0.0 would be a good idea. I'm biased, though, and can't vote for it. Excellent work Melchior! A long overdue update. Does anyone care about the translucency? I'm not sure yet if I do. Maybe just a slight dab of transparency with this dark background scheme might show enough of the scene to help pilots stay on the taxiway while playing with the settings, without taking away from the appearance of the gui. Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: gui theming
Jim Wilson wrote: Excellent work Melchior! A long overdue update. Does anyone care about the translucency? I'm not sure yet if I do. Maybe just a slight dab of transparency with this dark background scheme might show enough of the scene to help pilots stay on the taxiway while playing with the settings, without taking away from the appearance of the gui. Why not let user set the transparency in the property tree? Trying to decide what the 'best' level of transparency is sounds like an invitation to a religious war. The property tree is your savior, and that my friend is the truth straight from above. Josh ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: gui theming
On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:18:50 -0400, Jim wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: Melchior FRANZ * Ampere K. Hardraade -- Tuesday 12 July 2005 19:15: On July 11, 2005 04:26 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui8.jpg [50 kB] That's so nice. I would have no objection if that is made default. Maybe a new style for fgfs 1.0.0 would be a good idea. I'm biased, though, and can't vote for it. Excellent work Melchior! A long overdue update. ..no need to wait for 1.0.0, if we like it now, we put it in now. 0.9.9 could have us see a need for 0.9.10, 0.9.11, 0.9.12 etc, as we all like to get 1.0.0 damn right. ;o) -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: gui theming
From: Josh Babcock Jim Wilson wrote: Excellent work Melchior! A long overdue update. Does anyone care about the translucency? I'm not sure yet if I do. Maybe just a slight dab of transparency with this dark background scheme might show enough of the scene to help pilots stay on the taxiway while playing with the settings, without taking away from the appearance of the gui. Why not let user set the transparency in the property tree? Trying to decide what the 'best' level of transparency is sounds like an invitation to a religious war. The property tree is your savior, and that my friend is the truth straight from above. And it sounds like you just found that property tree Josh, especially with all those religious metaphors. SO why don't we just talk about the default? Isn't that what was up for discussion? The current color scheme was chosen because the designer wanted transparent dialogs. As far as making it user adjustable, that sounds great. Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: gui theming
On July 12, 2005 05:18 pm, Jim Wilson wrote: Excellent work Melchior! A long overdue update. Does anyone care about the translucency? I'm not sure yet if I do. Maybe just a slight dab of transparency with this dark background scheme might show enough of the scene to help pilots stay on the taxiway while playing with the settings, without taking away from the appearance of the gui. Best, Jim That would be like doing paper work while you are taxing. Not recommended. =) Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-devel] Re: gui theming
* Melchior FRANZ -- Friday 08 July 2005 15:34: * Melchior FRANZ -- Thursday 07 July 2005 23:45: $ fgfs --config=/tmp/test-style.xml http://members.aon.at/mfranz/test-style.xml [3 kB] Screenshot du jour (and my current style; more that just a test): http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui8.jpg [50 kB] m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
[Flightgear-devel] Re: gui theming
* Melchior FRANZ -- Thursday 07 July 2005 23:45: $ fgfs --config=/tmp/test-style.xml I had to change the font name due to license requirements. VERA_12B is now called SANS_12B (sans serif == serifless =~ Helvetica == Swiss := grotesk) The attached file from my original message does not work correctly any more. Either change the font name there accordingly, or use this file in which I'll probably make some other changes in the near future: http://members.aon.at/mfranz/test-style.xml [3 kB] m. ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d
