RE: [Flightgear-devel] Re: X-Plane on Linux

2004-11-08 Thread Norman Vine
Melchior FRANZ writes:
> 
> * Arthur Wiebe -- Monday 08 November 2004 19:13:
> > Just to make myself more clear. I like FlightGear. It's a great
> > simulator. I just like X-Plane better because it's of better quality
> > and a more mature product. 
> 
> Better quality is still quite vague for people who don't know X-Plane.
> Overall better quality? FDM? ATC? Weather (rain/snow/hail/lightning)?
> Scenery? Better GUI? Hey, but they can't beat fgfs' property system,
> its many network/io options. Built-in http server ...  :-)

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: X-Plane on Linux

2004-11-08 Thread Arthur Wiebe
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:42:37 +0100, Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Curtis L. Olson -- Monday 08 November 2004 16:22:
> > To be fair, X-Plane does some things that are a lot nicer than FG.
> > Also, our Mac support is woefully inadequate (mostly because we have
> > precious few Mac developers on board.)  The original poster was
> > referencing the Mac platform and I think his comments were entirely fair.
> 
> Ah, OK. Didn't relate this to the Mac port. At first this looked like
> the classical troll post: go to an application specific forum, tell
> how this app sucks and how others are better (which so far would be
> OK) but then do not describe what exactly are the reasons for this
> conclusion. Yes, fgfs' Mac incarnation may be less than optimal, but
> that's only because the Apple users don't care much for FlightGear. :-)
> 
> m.
> 
Just to make myself more clear. I like FlightGear. It's a great
simulator. I just like X-Plane better because it's of better quality
and a more mature product. Especially on OSX :)
 The fact that I can't build the latest source without problems I
don't know how to fix just adds to the reasons but is not the reason.

Once I get everything building I will make my builds available online for OSX.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: X-Plane on Linux

2004-11-08 Thread Arthur Wiebe
Yes, but for a few X-Plane 8 betas the demo lasted 20 min.


On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 13:28:37 -0200, Andreas Hasenack
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> It will indeed be interesting to see how X plane performs on linux.
> 
> Regarding the 6min limit, it was always there on the demo.
> 
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If in doubt ... (was Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: X-Plane on Linux)

2004-11-08 Thread David Megginson
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:42:37 +0100, Melchior FRANZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ah, OK. Didn't relate this to the Mac port. At first this looked like
> the classical troll post: go to an application specific forum, tell
> how this app sucks and how others are better (which so far would be
> OK) but then do not describe what exactly are the reasons for this
> conclusion. Yes, fgfs' Mac incarnation may be less than optimal, but
> that's only because the Apple users don't care much for FlightGear. :-)

The goal of a troll is to make people overreact, so staying
reasonable, calm, and polite is always the right choice.

If we assume that a person is not a troll and it turns out that a
person is, then there's little or no real harm done -- we look good
and the troll strikes out.  There's nothing wrong with asking polite,
probing questions, of course (i.e. "what version are you using?", "can
you list the compiler output?", etc.).

If we assume that a person *is* a troll  and it turns out that a
person is not, then we look defensive and immature.  Let's always give
new posters the benefit of a doubt unless they're way over the top
(i.e. "Die @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@% gay commie al quaida scum!!!"), and in such a
case, let's just ignore them.


All the best,


David

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: X-Plane on Linux

2004-11-08 Thread Andreas Hasenack
It will indeed be interesting to see how X plane performs on linux.

Regarding the 6min limit, it was always there on the demo.

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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: X-Plane on Linux

2004-11-08 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Melchior FRANZ wrote:
* Arthur Wiebe -- Monday 08 November 2004 15:55:
 

I like FlightGear because it's open source but other than that X-Plane
is a lot better. Hopefully in the future I'll actually be able to do a
full build of FGFS without so many problems. :)
   

So, X-Plane is better than fgfs, because *you* have problems compiling fgfs!?
Now, that seems like a very objective and mature attitude.
 

To be fair, X-Plane does some things that are a lot nicer than FG.  
Also, our Mac support is woefully inadequate (mostly because we have 
precious few Mac developers on board.)  The original poster was 
referencing the Mac platform and I think his comments were entirely fair.

Regards,
Curt.
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