[Flightgear-devel] Yaw

2007-11-22 Thread LeeE
Hi all, I've slowly been fixing the aircraft I've done that have been broken by updates in the FG code and I've noticed that we no longer seem to have access to the aircraft yaw in the property tree. When I first set up the rear-wheel steering for the B-52F I was told to use

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 7 easy steps to get fgcom running

2007-11-22 Thread Jon Stockill
Holger Wirtz wrote: The PTT emulation is currently only a mic mute - very bad hack. I will try to fix this inside iaxclient (so that the audio stream is blocked inside the VoIP client) but I have to discuss this on the iaxclient-dev list. I think you'll run into problems if you do this -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Yaw

2007-11-22 Thread John Denker
On 11/22/2007 04:58 AM, LeeE wrote: I've slowly been fixing the aircraft I've done that have been broken by updates in the FG code and I've noticed that we no longer seem to have access to the aircraft yaw in the property tree. When I first set up the rear-wheel steering for the B-52F I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Yaw

2007-11-22 Thread LeeE
On Thursday 22 November 2007 12:03, John Denker wrote: On 11/22/2007 04:58 AM, LeeE wrote: I've slowly been fixing the aircraft I've done that have been broken by updates in the FG code and I've noticed that we no longer seem to have access to the aircraft yaw in the property tree. When

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 7 easy steps to get fgcom running

2007-11-22 Thread Holger Wirtz
Hi Csaba, On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 04:50:57AM +0100, Csaba Halász wrote: Requirements: alsa headers plus standard development tools (gcc, make, etc) Nothing fancy :) 1.) fetch a known good revision of iaxclient: svn co https://iaxclient.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/iaxclient/branches/1.0 -r

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 7 easy steps to get fgcom running

2007-11-22 Thread Holger Wirtz
[...] Please review and apply. [...] Ok, patches are added. Thanks again! My own version runs fine with my dynamic iaxclient-2.x library... I have to check why I get errors with static linking against the SVN checkout of the iaxclient. Regards, Holger -- # ## ## Holger Wirtz

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 7 easy steps to get fgcom running

2007-11-22 Thread Holger Wirtz
Jon, On Thu, Nov 22, 2007 at 11:49:59AM +, Jon Stockill wrote: Holger Wirtz wrote: The PTT emulation is currently only a mic mute - very bad hack. I will try to fix this inside iaxclient (so that the audio stream is blocked inside the VoIP client) but I have to discuss this on the

[Flightgear-devel] slip angle (was: yaw)

2007-11-22 Thread John Denker
On 11/22/2007 07:28 AM, LeeE wrote: FWIW I also spotted that the coded hard-coded hud has problems around headings of 180 deg so that if you are heading slightly to one side of 180 deg and there's enough of a cross-wind to swing the direction indicator to the other side of 180 deg it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 7 easy steps to get fgcom running

2007-11-22 Thread Holger Wirtz
[...] But: --- cut here --- $ ./fgcom -f910.000 ./fgcom - a communication radio based on VoIP with IAX/Asterisk (c)2007 by H. Wirtz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Version 1.0.1 build 36:37M Using iaxclient library Version SVN 1075M IAXCLIENT: Fatal error: can't allocate memory Segmentation fault

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 7 easy steps to get fgcom running

2007-11-22 Thread Jon Stockill
Holger Wirtz wrote: Ok, I see the problem. And if the mic input is not used as a signal source but a silent stream? That may simulate a PTT function without hardware muting the mic. Yes, that would maintain the outbound stream for use as a clock source. If I want to place two calls - one

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Now only 3 steps for fgcom!

2007-11-22 Thread Holger Wirtz
1.) fetch fgcom (a copy of a working iaxclient is inside) svn checkout svn://svn.dfn.de:/fgcom Optional: edit iaxclient/lib/Makefile To use oss emulation (recommended and the default for now) USE_PA_OSS=1 USE_PA_ALSA=0 USE_PA_JACK=0 AUDIO_ALSA=0 To use native alsa (WARNING: PTT won't work)

[Flightgear-devel] X52.xml file, and cheap rudder pedal :-p

2007-11-22 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Hi there, I modified X52.xml for Saitek X52 controller. You can download it from: http://macflightgear.sourceforge.net/home/development-notes/devnote-nov-22-2007 I also use the gas/brake pedal of WingMan formula force GP (Yes, a racing controller) for rudder control. you can also use its xml

Re: [Flightgear-devel] slip angle (was: yaw)

2007-11-22 Thread Jon S. Berndt
If that variable doesn't show a large slip angle when parked in a crosswind, that's a nasty bug. You can easily enough check whether the FDM is calculating this correctly by recomputing it yourself. It's just the angle between the relative wind vector (projected onto the XY plane) and the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] slip angle

2007-11-22 Thread alexis bory
John Denker a écrit : On 11/22/2007 07:28 AM, LeeE wrote: FWIW I also spotted that the coded hard-coded hud has problems around headings of 180 deg so that if you are heading slightly to one side of 180 deg and there's enough of a cross-wind to swing the direction indicator to the other

Re: [Flightgear-devel] slip angle

2007-11-22 Thread John Denker
On 11/22/2007 09:10 AM, Jon S. Berndt wrote: At this time, JSBSim zeroes out the wind velocities while at rest on the ground, to prevent slippage. Aha. Thanks for the info. FWIW that sounds like *two* bugs to me. 1) Maybe we need a better model of static friction and quasi-static rolling

[Flightgear-devel] OSGEdit

2007-11-22 Thread gerard robin
Hello, If you wants a tool which help to make any OSG object, here the very last version of OSGEdit which is usable http://osgedit.sourceforge.net/. It looks to be better than the previous version, with a lot of improvements. Regards BTW: you could notice on that page the name of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] slip angle

2007-11-22 Thread Jon S. Berndt
On 11/22/2007 09:10 AM, Jon S. Berndt wrote: At this time, JSBSim zeroes out the wind velocities while at rest on the ground, to prevent slippage. John Denker replied: Aha. Thanks for the info. FWIW that sounds like *two* bugs to me. 1) Maybe we need a better model of static

Re: [Flightgear-devel] X52.xml file, and cheap rudder pedal :-p

2007-11-22 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I'm planning to get an X52 Pro, so I wonder what is wrong with current x52 config file in CVS. Also, what driver is needed in linux for it (if any)? I don't have rudder pedals, and that won't be in the X52.xml right? Regards AnMaster Tatsuhiro

[Flightgear-devel] [ANNOUNCEMENT] TerraGear-fork GIT repository

2007-11-22 Thread Ralf Gerlich
Hello all, I just wanted to let all of you know that a read-only GIT repository of the TerraGear fork is now available unter http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/terragear/. A gitweb environment for browsing online is to be found at http://mapserver.flightgear.org/git/ Thanks to Martin Spott for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] slip angle

2007-11-22 Thread John Denker
On 11/22/2007 12:59 PM, Jon S. Berndt wrote: What happens if the combined moment on the vehicle and the translational force causes only one gear to go past its ability to hold traction on the ground? Well, that's pretty far down on the priority list, but since you asked: That happens

[Flightgear-devel] Problems with R22

2007-11-22 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I may may have missed something obvious but when I was trying out the R22 in CVS I never got it off ground. I got the engine started just fine, but the throttle doesn't seem to map to collective as in other aircrafts nor can I find any key that

Re: [Flightgear-devel] slip angle

2007-11-22 Thread Jon S. Berndt
Maybe it would help to talk to the CDM guys instead of the FDM guys. http://www.google.com/search?q=car-dynamics-model http://www.google.com/search?q=car-dynamics-model+nascar I reckon the car-dynamics guys have a pretty good model of static friction and quasi-static rolling friction.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] R22 broken with keyboard (also concorde...)

2007-11-22 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Not sure why there were two copies of this, sorry for that. However another aircraft with bad keyboard binding is Concorde with Ctrl-M/Enter for menu, that blocks changing rudder with keyboard, locally I moved that to - for concorde, - is unused in

[Flightgear-devel] R22 broken with keyboard (was: Problems with R22)

2007-11-22 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 AndersG He might have remapped PgUp/Down to.. AndersG Yep.. that is what's up.. AndersG Hmm.. that means (AFAIKS) there is no keyboard collective anymore.. :-/ And I don't have a joystick. Consider this a bug report. Regards, AnMaster AnMaster

[Flightgear-devel] R22 broken with keyboard (was: Problems with R22)

2007-11-22 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 AndersG He might have remapped PgUp/Down to.. AndersG Yep.. that is what's up.. AndersG Hmm.. that means (AFAIKS) there is no keyboard collective anymore.. :-/ And I don't have a joystick. Consider this a bug report. Regards, AnMaster AnMaster

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-11-22 Thread Durk Talsma
On Thursday 22 November 2007 07:36, I wrote: This is a quick note to everybody: I'm planning to build an official FlightGear pre-release tonight. I did a full dress rehearsal last sunday and that all seemed to work well, but I still needed Curt's okay for a few remaining issues. In the mean

Re: [Flightgear-devel] R22 broken with keyboard (was: Problems with R22)

2007-11-22 Thread SydSandy
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:47:29 +0100 AnMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 AndersG He might have remapped PgUp/Down to.. AndersG Yep.. that is what's up.. AndersG Hmm.. that means (AFAIKS) there is no keyboard collective anymore.. :-/ And I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] R22 broken with keyboard (was: Problems with R22)

2007-11-22 Thread gerard robin
On jeu 22 novembre 2007, SydSandy wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:47:29 +0100 AnMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 AndersG He might have remapped PgUp/Down to.. AndersG Yep.. that is what's up.. AndersG Hmm.. that means (AFAIKS) there is no

[Flightgear-devel] FGCOM fails to compile. Still.

2007-11-22 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 When trying to compile FGCOM (Gentoo Linux 64-bit) revision 64: [...] cc -I. -Igsm/inc -Iportaudio/include -Iportaudio/src/common -Iportaudio/pablio - -Iportmixer/px_common -Ilibspeex/include --std=c99 -Wall -Wmissing-noreturn -g - -O2 -DLIBVER='SVN

Re: [Flightgear-devel] R22 broken with keyboard (was: Problems with R22)

2007-11-22 Thread Heiko Schulz
--- gerard robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On jeu 22 novembre 2007, SydSandy wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:47:29 +0100 AnMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 AndersG He might have remapped PgUp/Down to.. AndersG Yep.. that is

[Flightgear-devel] FGCOM again, mixer mess

2007-11-22 Thread AnMaster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 So I tried FGCOM with OSS emulation, at last it compiled with jester's patch at http://pastebin.ca/794075. Now I tried it. Error. Ok, so I need to edit some files it turns out after asking on IRC channel to change prefix (whatever happened to

[Flightgear-devel] Improved chat interface patch

2007-11-22 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All, Inspired by Melchior's new property interface (and copying most of his techniques), I've written an enhancement to the chat interface that allows users to write chat messages much more easily. The patches below binds a keyboard handler to the - key, creating a nice easy way to compose

[Flightgear-devel] Mirror site

2007-11-22 Thread John Wojnaroski
Hi, The pre-release tar files have been uploaded to an alternate site for the interim to relieve the load on Durk's machine. Files are at http://www.lfstech.com/pub/flightgear or ftp://www.lfstech.com/pub/flightgear. Should also be quite a bit faster. JW

Re: [Flightgear-devel] slip angle (was: yaw)

2007-11-22 Thread LeeE
On Thursday 22 November 2007 13:52, John Denker wrote: Sorry - couldn't resist this But... explicit-just-for-a-laughprompt If you think you've got problems when the heading angle goes to 180 degrees, think about what happens when the pitch angle goes to ±90 degrees. /promptresponse Been

Re: [Flightgear-devel] R22 broken with keyboard (was: Problems with R22)

2007-11-22 Thread SydSandy
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:12:13 +0100 (CET) Heiko Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- gerard robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: On jeu 22 novembre 2007, SydSandy wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:47:29 +0100 AnMaster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-11-22 Thread Georg Vollnhals
Hi Durk and John, Please note that this server runs from home, on a private ADSL connection, using a wireless lan. So please be aware that downloads will be slow and that a stable connection can't always be guaranteed. Curt and I are currently working out a way to transfer these files to

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Improved chat interface patch

2007-11-22 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All, I now have a working chat menu system, which will generate canned chat messages by using a simple menu system, access by the numbers on your keyboard. The canned messages are somewhat dynamic, in that they pick up the current airport, and your own callsign and altitude. You will need

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear prerelease

2007-11-22 Thread Tatsuhiro Nishioka
Durk, Thanks for building the official pre2 source packages. I tried your pre2 sources on my MacBook Pro and I successfully built it with no problem. so there's no urgent patches for Mac OS X port. Let me give you quick feedback on 0.9.11-pre2. I already found the following two bugs in pre2,