Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-01 Thread thorsten . i . renk
> So, I quickly wrote an alternative to the current Nasal system > geodinfo(), > using the groundcache instead of the current scenery method. (...) > Comments? You just made me a rather happy person :-) That seems like a sizeable improvement in performance! One question - do the two methods h

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-01 Thread James Turner
On 30 Jul 2011, at 20:31, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > So, I quickly wrote an alternative to the current Nasal system geodinfo(), > using the groundcache instead of the current scenery method. I'm working on a new (C++) navigation display instrument, which I hope to add a proper EGPWS terrain dis

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-01 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Stuart, On 30 Jul 2011, at 21:31, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > So, I quickly wrote an alternative to the current Nasal system geodinfo(), > using the groundcache instead of the current scenery method. > This sounds very interesting: As far as I can tell, the AI system still makes use of sce

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [patch] Improved forests

2011-08-01 Thread thorsten . i . renk
> I'm not sure if increasing the tree count could trigger the same > problem. I've been flying with 8 times the default tree density for the last half year (I edited materials.xml) - apart from the (expected) general overall impact on framerate, I haven't seen any issues like second-long lags when

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The state of things in Flight Gear

2011-08-01 Thread thorsten . i . renk
>> I think it's grossly unfair to mix these issues: Spaceflight requires >> to essentially write a space simulator. One of my first statements in >> the >> forum was: >> >> "Orbital flights opens a whole new can of worms besides the need for >> different rendering - completely different physics, co

Re: [Flightgear-devel] The state of things in Flight Gear

2011-08-01 Thread Jon S. Berndt
> From: thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi > To provide the context: I wrote the above in response to pictures of Mars > (from Celestia) being posted and talk about Apollo missions, i.e. having > interplanetary missions in mind. (Jon actually knows that, because I > explained it later in the thread :-) ) - s

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup crash in SimGear (with patch?)

2011-08-01 Thread Csaba Halász
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 5:41 AM, Ove Kåven wrote: > > If there are no other references, the prop_root is automatically > destroyed when sgLoad3DModel_internal returns, causing the memory to be > freed. So, later on, when OSG wants to do something with these > particles, the freed memory is referenc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup crash in SimGear (with patch?)

2011-08-01 Thread James Turner
On 1 Aug 2011, at 12:30, Csaba Halász wrote: > Indeed, I have been unable to run FG with particles enabled since a > long time due to random crashes in the particle code. Call stack > frequently included functions your description mentions, so I hope > this patch will fix that issue. Can anyone

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup crash in SimGear (with patch?)

2011-08-01 Thread Vivian Meazza
James wrote: > On 1 Aug 2011, at 12:30, Csaba Halász wrote: > > > Indeed, I have been unable to run FG with particles enabled since a > > long time due to random crashes in the particle code. Call stack > > frequently included functions your description mentions, so I hope > > this patch will fix

[Flightgear-devel] Release 2.4.0: call for help in PR

2011-08-01 Thread Torsten Dreyer
FlightGear 2.4.0 will be released in a bit more than two weeks from now. To reach a broad audience, I am looking for someone to write an announcement, initially in English. Also, very welcome are people able to translate this into their native language and distribute it to their local press/fligh

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup crash in SimGear (with patch?)

2011-08-01 Thread Csaba Halász
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:24 PM, James Turner wrote: > > Can anyone think of a reason particles are fine for some (many?) people > without this patch? Of course the patch should be applied, I'm just wondering > what would affect the ref-counting logic to hide the problem in some machines > / env

Re: [Flightgear-devel] startup crash in SimGear (with patch?)

2011-08-01 Thread ThorstenB
On 01.08.2011 14:24, James Turner wrote: > > On 1 Aug 2011, at 12:30, Csaba Halász wrote: > >> Indeed, I have been unable to run FG with particles enabled since a >> long time due to random crashes in the particle code. Call stack >> frequently included functions your description mentions, so I hop

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.4.0: call for help in PR

2011-08-01 Thread Peter Morgan
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[Flightgear-devel] Flightgear 2.4.0 data package

2011-08-01 Thread ThorstenB
Hi, I checked the FG base package contents. It seems our build rule hasn't been updated in a while. The following directories / files aren't packed, though it would seem reasonable to include these: data/MP data/HLA data/runfgfs.bat Not sure about the latter - anyone still using this or is it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Release 2.4.0: call for help in PR

2011-08-01 Thread Peter Morgan
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Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear 2.4.0 data package

2011-08-01 Thread Torsten Dreyer
Am 01.08.2011 20:18, schrieb ThorstenB: > Hi, > > I checked the FG base package contents. It seems our build rule hasn't > been updated in a while. The following directories / files aren't > packed, though it would seem reasonable to include these: > > data/MP > data/HLA > data/runfgfs.bat > > Not

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear Newsletter - July 2011

2011-08-01 Thread Stuart Buchanan
Hi All, The July 2011 edition of the FlightGear Newsletter is now available: http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightGear_Newsletter_July_2011 As always, we are looking for contributions to the next newsletter, available here: http://wiki.flightgear.org/FlightGear_Newsletter_August_2011 -Stuart

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-01 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:18 AM, Durk Talsma wrote: > Hi Stuart, > On 30 Jul 2011, at 21:31, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > >> >> So, I quickly wrote an alternative to the current Nasal  system geodinfo(), >> using the groundcache instead of the  current scenery method. >> > > This sounds very interestin

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-01 Thread Stuart Buchanan
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 9:48 AM, James Turner wrote: > > On 30 Jul 2011, at 20:31, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > >> So, I quickly wrote an alternative to the current Nasal  system geodinfo(), >> using the groundcache instead of the  current scenery method. > > I'm working on a new (C++) navigation displa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-01 Thread James Turner
On 1 Aug 2011, at 22:35, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > In both cases, are you not going to be limited by what tiles have been loaded? Yes - I have wondered about separately loading the BTG files, but that seems like a world of pain. In the first instance, simply having the tiles loaded in the cache

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-01 Thread ThorstenB
On 02.08.2011 00:30, James Turner wrote: > Yes - I have wondered about separately loading the BTG files, but > that seems like a world of pain. In the first instance, simply having > the tiles loaded in the cache would be a reasonable start. The tile manager is capable of satisfying multiple reque

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-01 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Thursday, July 14, 2011 11:04:50 thorsten.i.r...@jyu.fi wrote: > I can maybe tell you what I need. Currently, Local Weather uses terrain > info in three ways: > 1) a presampling routine gets gross features in the vicinity of the > aircraft, i.e. mean altitude, median altitude, max. altitud

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-01 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Hi, On Saturday, July 30, 2011 21:31:37 Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > Hi Mathias, Sorry not to anser in time ... > > Presumably this is using the ground_cache rather code rather than the > > scenery.get_elevation_m() code that the Nasal system uses to to get > > geodinfo() > > > > If so, I'll see

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-01 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Durk, On Monday, August 01, 2011 11:18:02 Durk Talsma wrote: > On 30 Jul 2011, at 21:31, Stuart Buchanan wrote: > > So, I quickly wrote an alternative to the current Nasal system > > geodinfo(), using the groundcache instead of the current scenery > > method. > > This sounds very interesting:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Future Weather System

2011-08-01 Thread Mathias Fröhlich
Stuart, On Monday, August 01, 2011 21:51:16 Stuart Buchanan wrote: > I'm looking to see whether we should just have a single way to query > the ground elevation using the groundcache, and use that everywhere. See the lenghty explanation in the response to the weather system. > However, the AI ca