Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-05 Thread Alasdair
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 22:14 +0100, Alasdair wrote: On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 21:58 +0100, Alasdair wrote: On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 22:34 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: If you start FG with --log-level=debug --log-class=view you'll be able to see messages like :

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-05 Thread Alasdair
I have narrowed this problem down further. Comment out: instrumentation n=0 pathAircraft/c172p/Systems/instrumentation.xml/path /instrumentation in c172p-set.xml Similarly instrumentation pathAircraft/b1900d/Systems/instrumentation.xml/path

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-05 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Wed, 5 Sep 2012, Alasdair wrote: I have narrowed this problem down further. Comment out: instrumentation n=0 pathAircraft/c172p/Systems/instrumentation.xml/path /instrumentation in c172p-set.xml Similarly instrumentation

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-05 Thread Alasdair
On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 15:47 +0200, Anders Gidenstam wrote: On Wed, 5 Sep 2012, Alasdair wrote: I have narrowed this problem down further. Comment out: instrumentation n=0 pathAircraft/c172p/Systems/instrumentation.xml/path /instrumentation in c172p-set.xml

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-05 Thread Alasdair
On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 15:06 +0100, Alasdair wrote: On Wed, 2012-09-05 at 15:47 +0200, Anders Gidenstam wrote: On Wed, 5 Sep 2012, Alasdair wrote: I have narrowed this problem down further. Comment out: instrumentation n=0 pathAircraft/c172p/Systems/instrumentation.xml/path

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Alasdair
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 21:32 +0100, Alasdair wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 09:39 -0600, syd adams wrote: Im running Ubuntu , still get that problem.I've added the radar to my intrumentation file in my affected aircraft , and the problem is gone.Strange. Syd On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:23

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread James Turner
On 4 Sep 2012, at 11:43, Alasdair wrote: Further research shows that for the b1900d SenecaII, this problem goes way back to 2.6.0. It has only become apparent (in my case) for the c172p in recent git pulls. I will attempt to find exactly when, but I am having to learn git as I go :-( Since

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Alasdair
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 12:07 +0100, James Turner wrote: On 4 Sep 2012, at 11:43, Alasdair wrote: Further research shows that for the b1900d SenecaII, this problem goes way back to 2.6.0. It has only become apparent (in my case) for the c172p in recent git pulls. I will attempt to find

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Anders Gidenstam
On Tue, 4 Sep 2012, Alasdair wrote: Thanks for the words of wisdom, James, but I am still curious to determine when the problem began for me on the c172p. I don't think Fred's suggestion for git bisect will work because I have to bisect fg, sg and data and keep them in sync, so I reckon I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Alasdair
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 15:00 +0200, Anders Gidenstam wrote: Try checking out the c172p as of the commit before caeebdbd935015fd7b2bb3071e5f09b1b7815415 E.g. git checkout caeebdbd935015fd7b2bb3071e5f09b1b7815415^ -- Aircraft/c172p That commit, from Aug 23, switches the c172p to use its

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Can't think how to proceed from here though :-( Sigh! As you and others have mentioned, the wxradar connection ought to be a clue, but I am not brainy enough anymore to follow it up, especially if involves delving into OSG. If you are able to start Rembrandt, does it change anything ?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Alasdair
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 18:00 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Can't think how to proceed from here though :-( Sigh! As you and others have mentioned, the wxradar connection ought to be a clue, but I am not brainy enough anymore to follow it up, especially if involves delving into OSG. If

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Frederic Bouvier
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 18:00 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Can't think how to proceed from here though :-( Sigh! As you and others have mentioned, the wxradar connection ought to be a clue, but I am not brainy enough anymore to follow it up, especially if involves delving into

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Alasdair
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 18:52 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 18:00 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Can't think how to proceed from here though :-( Sigh! As you and others have mentioned, the wxradar connection ought to be a clue, but I am not brainy enough

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Here you go: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15936159/fgfs-rem_rend_buffers_on.png You seem to be scenting the fox here, Fred Wish I knew what the rendering buffers tell you! The corners are rendered in a first pass in textures. These textures are resized when an event from OSG tells to, and then

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Here you go: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15936159/fgfs-rem_rend_buffers_on.png You seem to be scenting the fox here, Fred Wish I knew what the rendering buffers tell you! The corners are rendered in a first pass in textures. These textures are resized when an event from OSG tells to,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Here you go: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15936159/fgfs-rem_rend_buffers_on.png You seem to be scenting the fox here, Fred Wish I knew what the rendering buffers tell you! The corners are rendered in a first pass in textures. These textures are resized when an event from OSG

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Alasdair
If you start FG with --log-level=debug --log-class=view you'll be able to see messages like : FGEventHandler::handle: RESIZE event 763 x 1338, resizable: 1 FGRenderer::resize: new size 1338 x 763 What are yours ? Regards, -Fred I see FGRenderer::resize: new size 1904 x 993 but no

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Frederic Bouvier
If you start FG with --log-level=debug --log-class=view you'll be able to see messages like : FGEventHandler::handle: RESIZE event 763 x 1338, resizable: 1 FGRenderer::resize: new size 1338 x 763 What are yours ? Regards, -Fred I see FGRenderer::resize: new size 1904

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Alasdair
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 22:34 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: If you start FG with --log-level=debug --log-class=view you'll be able to see messages like : FGEventHandler::handle: RESIZE event 763 x 1338, resizable: 1 FGRenderer::resize: new size 1338 x 763 What are yours ?

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-04 Thread Alasdair
On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 21:58 +0100, Alasdair wrote: On Tue, 2012-09-04 at 22:34 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: If you start FG with --log-level=debug --log-class=view you'll be able to see messages like : FGEventHandler::handle: RESIZE event 763 x 1338, resizable: 1

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-03 Thread Alasdair
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 01:06 +0200, ThorstenB wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: After git pull (sg,fg,fgdata) a couple of days ago, I was presented with a strange screen which I had not seen before. My regular was shown as a sub-screen in the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-03 Thread syd adams
Im running Ubuntu , still get that problem.I've added the radar to my intrumentation file in my affected aircraft , and the problem is gone.Strange. Syd On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 01:06 +0200, ThorstenB wrote: On Sun, Sep 2, 2012

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-03 Thread Geoff McLane
Hi Alasdair, I also do not think it is OS related, since I have seen this 'sometimes' in Windows 7 64-bit, with AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series with (I hope) the latest Catalyst driver! At the time I thought little of it since it seemed to go away a few seconds later... by itself... In the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-03 Thread Alasdair
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 09:39 -0600, syd adams wrote: Im running Ubuntu , still get that problem.I've added the radar to my intrumentation file in my affected aircraft , and the problem is gone.Strange. Syd On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 2:23 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: On Mon,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-03 Thread Frederic Bouvier
I cannot therefore attribute this problem to the Catalyst driver. My git pull/build of 12 Aug did not display this problem. That of 1 Sep did. So I reckon it must have been a commit made between these dates. So you may want to git bisect to find which commit was the problem Thanks, -Fred

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-03 Thread Alasdair
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 20:22 +0200, Geoff McLane wrote: Hi Alasdair, I also do not think it is OS related, since I have seen this 'sometimes' in Windows 7 64-bit, with AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series with (I hope) the latest Catalyst driver! At the time I thought little of it since it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-03 Thread Alasdair
On Mon, 2012-09-03 at 22:40 +0200, Frederic Bouvier wrote: I cannot therefore attribute this problem to the Catalyst driver. My git pull/build of 12 Aug did not display this problem. That of 1 Sep did. So I reckon it must have been a commit made between these dates. So you may want to git

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-03 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 03 Sep 2012 21:32:02 +0100, Alasdair wrote in message 1346704322.26230.28.camel@executrix: I cannot therefore attribute this problem to the Catalyst driver. ..one quick way to find out, is fetch a live usb distro, e.g. Debian Live, (there's also Ubuntu, Knoppix etc) put it on an usb

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-03 Thread Tom P
Hi Alasdair, This tutorial on git bisect has references to Drupal but is otherwise very clear: http://webchick.net/node/99 You basically start from a known-good point, a known-bad one and then tell git bisect if the next checkouts are good (no problem) or bad (show the problem). Each test

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-02 Thread syd adams
Ive had this same issue for months now , on a laptop with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250.It only happens on some aircraft , but i havent really tried to hunt the problem down. Im suspecting a shortage of video memory . I also can get full screen by changing the window size , but any dialog or text on

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-02 Thread Alasdair
On Sun, 2012-09-02 at 12:26 -0600, syd adams wrote: Ive had this same issue for months now , on a laptop with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250.It only happens on some aircraft , but i havent really tried to hunt the problem down. Im suspecting a shortage of video memory . I also can get full screen

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-02 Thread James Turner
Please open a bug for this, if there is not one already (it sounds similar to one existing issue), and include all the information below - especially when it broke, OSG versions, graphics cards and so on. Cheers, James On 2 Sep 2012, at 20:07, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: On

Re: [Flightgear-devel] strange screen

2012-09-02 Thread ThorstenB
On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Alasdair ali...@btinternet.com wrote: After git pull (sg,fg,fgdata) a couple of days ago, I was presented with a strange screen which I had not seen before. My regular was shown as a sub-screen in the bottom-left corner. Clicking the maximise widget restores