Re: [Flightgear-users] Instrument Panel development tools?

2004-12-21 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Bill
Take a look at the 737 panel and the 747 panel.
The 737 panel is 2D which is a texture only panel.
This panel is a complete pilots panel with both pilots
and copilots instruments.To see the whole panel use
ctrl-f5  f6 to move up and down and ctrl f7  f8 to
move side to side.You can try clicking on the auto pilot
panel to see hot spots working although a lot of them
no longer work due to changes to FG code since the
panel was built.
The 747 panel is a 3D panel in this case the instruments are
3D objects with textures applied.The 747 as far as I know has
no hotspots but that is because they have not been done not
because they can't be done.
If you want to check for hotspots on a panel in an aircraft press
ctrl-C(I think it is) and yellow squares will appear on the panel were
the hotspots are.
Both types of panel have there pro's  con's but most people here
favour 3D so I will just go along with the crowd.
Once you have had a look at the panels you can check out there
XML files to see how each type is constructed.
HTH
Cheers
Innis

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RE: [Flightgear-users] Radios and other stuff.

2004-12-21 Thread Innis Cunningham

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]  writes

1) Do the radios actually do anything? What do they do?
Yes the navigation radio's provide signals to the flight instruments
to show the pilot were he is (NAV1  NAV2).The communication radio's
provide a signal to the pilot to tell him were he is(COM1  COM2)
2) If so, where can I learn how to use them, (the ones in flightgear).
I think there is a learn to fly somewere in the documentation.
3) How can I learn how to use the IFR, I think that's what it's called,
   The compasses with the adjustable pointers on them that are supposed to
   guide you into the runway?
Probably takes about two years of flying to get a basic knowledge.
But if you Google agound for things like ADF,VOR  ILS you may be able to
understand how the systems work.
It took 3 months of solid 8 hours a day in aicraft radio school to learn how 
these
systems work.And I am not sure 30 years later that I fully understand or 
believe
what I was taught.

HTH
Cheers
Innis

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[Flightgear-users] Re: Radios and other stuff.

2004-12-21 Thread Melchior FRANZ
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Tuesday 21 December 2004 07:26:
 1) Do the radios actually do anything? What do they do?

 2) If so, where can I learn how to use them, (the ones in flightgear).
 
 3) How can I learn how to use the IFR [...]

http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/

m.

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Instrument Panel development tools?

2004-12-21 Thread Thomas Förster
Am Dienstag 21 Dezember 2004 01:47 schrieb Curtis L. Olson:
 ...
 For visualization while you work try hitting F3 (or is it
 shift-F3?)  One of those reloads the panel, and the other takes a screen
 shot, I always forget which is which.  But that let's you work on your
 panel and see the results immediately in a live running copy of FG.

Aahhh. Now the 'Debug' menu makes sense to me :-) Thanks.

Thomas

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Instrument Panel development tools?

2004-12-21 Thread Roy Vegard Ovesen
On Tuesday 21 December 2004 01:47, Curtis L. Olson wrote:
 For visualization while you work try hitting F3 (or is it
 shift-F3?)  One of those reloads the panel, and the other takes a screen
 shot, I always forget which is which.  But that let's you work on your
 panel and see the results immediately in a live running copy of FG.


This only works for 2d panels. And it does not work for a 2d panel included in 
the 3d model, like the default C172.

-- 
Roy Vegard Ovesen

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Radios and other stuff.

2004-12-21 Thread David Megginson
On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:26:45 +0800, Innis Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Probably takes about two years of flying to get a basic knowledge.

That's a bit of an exaggeration.  A couple of hours spent reading through

  http://www.navfltsm.addr.com/

should make a good start.  A pilot normally needs about 40 hours
training to be able to fly holds and approaches within tolerance for
the instrument rating, but most pilots have the basics of
VOR/DME/ADF/ILS down after about 5 hours practice, even if they're
pretty sloppy at that point.  A lot of the 40 hours are spent learning
to fly on the gyros when you cannot see out the windows, not learning
how to use the nav instruments.  Most of IFR ground school, in Canada
at least, is spent on weather and regulations, not navigation radios.

Before the original poster tries that, though, it would be a good idea
to get the basic airmanship down -- learn to use the central six
instruments, and learn to maintain heading, airspeed, and altitude. 
Once that's all down, it's good to practice again in IMC, where the
instruments are your only reference.

 It took 3 months of solid 8 hours a day in aicraft radio school to learn how
 these
 systems work.And I am not sure 30 years later that I fully understand or
 believe
 what I was taught.

Were you learning how to build or maintain the instruments, rather
than just use them?


All the best,


David

-- 
http://www.megginson.com/

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Radios and other stuff.

2004-12-21 Thread Dave Martin
On Tuesday 21 Dec 2004 13:10, David Megginson wrote:

  It took 3 months of solid 8 hours a day in aicraft radio school to learn
  how these
  systems work.And I am not sure 30 years later that I fully understand or
  believe
  what I was taught.

 Were you learning how to build or maintain the instruments, rather
 than just use them?


 All the best,


 David

Depends how long ago he trained, I once saw an ancient ADF, the size of a 
dinner-plate. You probably had to know how to stoke the boiler on that 
one ;-)

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[Flightgear-users] [from Avsim] fgjs hangs when configuring Logitech Freedom 2.4

2004-12-21 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
http://forums.avsim.net/dcboard.php?az=show_topicforum=198topic_id=496mode=full

Ampere

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Instrument Panel development tools?

2004-12-21 Thread Erik Hofman
Does anybody know what happened to this project:
http://www.chez.com/tipunch/fgpanel/
Erik
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[Flightgear-users] Can't Configure Joystick

2004-12-21 Thread Mr. Nigel Chuckletrousers
I'm trying to get a Logitech Attack 3 to work with FlightGear, but
things aren't going as FlightGear.org's documentation suggests.
Whenever I run js_demo and jstest, the joystick is recognized, so at
least that works correctly.

I'm running this on my dad's SuSE 9.1 Linux box, and SuSE seems to
treat FlightGear differently than other distros, as it has a
custom-made SuSE package for FlightGear (not the standard-issue rpm or
compiled-from-source), and many paths are different. For example, the
instructions say to run cd /usr/local/FlightGear/Input/Joysticks,
but in SuSE, one must run cd
/usr/lib/FlightGear/data/Input/Joysticks. This may have some effect
on why things aren't acting correctly:

Whenever I run fgjs, everything works fine to configure the joystick
to work. However, it's supposed to create the file fgfsrc.js, which
cannot be located anywhere on the hard drive. Has anyone else had a
problem with it not producing a configuration file? And could somebody
please assist me? Thank you.

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Re: [Flightgear-users] Can't Configure Joystick

2004-12-21 Thread Jeremy Johnson
On Tuesday 21 December 2004 10:31 pm, Mr. Nigel Chuckletrousers wrote:
 I'm trying to get a Logitech Attack 3 to work with FlightGear, but
 things aren't going as FlightGear.org's documentation suggests.
 Whenever I run js_demo and jstest, the joystick is recognized, so at
 least that works correctly.

 I'm running this on my dad's SuSE 9.1 Linux box, and SuSE seems to
 treat FlightGear differently than other distros, as it has a
 custom-made SuSE package for FlightGear (not the standard-issue rpm or
 compiled-from-source), and many paths are different. For example, the
 instructions say to run cd /usr/local/FlightGear/Input/Joysticks,
 but in SuSE, one must run cd
 /usr/lib/FlightGear/data/Input/Joysticks. This may have some effect
 on why things aren't acting correctly:

 Whenever I run fgjs, everything works fine to configure the joystick
 to work. However, it's supposed to create the file fgfsrc.js, which
 cannot be located anywhere on the hard drive. Has anyone else had a
 problem with it not producing a configuration file? And could somebody
 please assist me? Thank you.

I have no knowledge of SuSE.
I installed from source.
For me fgjs creates fgfsrc.js in the current directory. Since I ran it from
my home directory that's where my file was created. If I tried to run it
from a directory for which I didn't have write permissions -- who knows?

I ended up manually creating  an xml file for my joystick:
I added an entry for my_joystick.xml to /usr/share/FlightGear/joysticks.xml
and then created my_joystick.xml and added it 
to /usr/share/FlightGear/Input/Joysticks/my_joystick's_manufacturer/

I based my_joystick.xml on that for a simple CH-compatable stick
with 4 axis and 4 buttons in /usr/share/FlightGear/Input/Joysticks/ which had 
a similar number of buttons, sliders, axis, triggers, etc.

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