Re: [fltk.development] Fl_X not exported on mac in 1.3

2011-01-11 Thread Manolo Gouy
I just updated to the head of 1.3, and my app failed to compile, complaining that Fl_X was undefined. Looking at FL/mac.H, it looks like it's intentionally hidden when compiling against an application. Hiding system specific stuff seems like a good idea, but it looks like this is

Re: [fltk.development] Fl_X not exported on mac in 1.3

2011-01-11 Thread Evan Laforge
I don't see the Fl_X class documented in Doxygen. Am I wrong ? I think you're right, I don't see it either. I'm not sure where I got the idea to use it. It seems less likely to make portability if it's consistently not exported for all OSes, but if it's not documented then I suppose you can

Re: [fltk.development] Fl_X not exported on mac in 1.3

2011-01-11 Thread MacArthur, Ian (SELEX GALILEO, UK)
I just updated to the head of 1.3, and my app failed to compile, complaining that Fl_X was undefined. Looking at FL/mac.H, it looks like it's intentionally hidden when compiling against an application. Hiding system specific stuff seems like a good idea, but it looks like this is

Re: [fltk.development] Fl_X not exported on mac in 1.3

2011-01-11 Thread Albrecht Schlosser
On 11.01.2011 10:21, MacArthur, Ian (SELEX GALILEO, UK) wrote: One for Manolo I guess. Though... There is the bigger question of whether Fl_X should be exposed or not. What do folk think? I'd say don't expose, because it's internal and can be changed. If we really need to expose some of the

Re: [fltk.development] Fl_X not exported on mac in 1.3

2011-01-11 Thread Matthias Melcher
On 11.01.2011, at 10:21, MacArthur, Ian (SELEX GALILEO, UK) wrote: One for Manolo I guess. Though... There is the bigger question of whether Fl_X should be exposed or not. What do folk think? I don't know - I'd guess not, for safety reasons, but there are some advantages, too... This

Re: [fltk.development] Doc file missing from RC3 tarball

2011-01-11 Thread Matthias Melcher
On 11.01.2011, at 12:06, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: I don't know what to do with fluid, but I think that fluid should probably use an external browser for its docs as well. I'd rather have a short intro to Fluid inside the fluid source files and an explanation where to find the complete docs

Re: [fltk.development] Fl_X not exported on mac in 1.3

2011-01-11 Thread Manolo Gouy
On 11.01.2011, at 10:21, MacArthur, Ian (SELEX GALILEO, UK) wrote: One for Manolo I guess. Though... There is the bigger question of whether Fl_X should be exposed or not. =20 What do folk think?=20 =20 I don't know - I'd guess not, for safety reasons, but there are some advantages,

Re: [fltk.development] Fl_X not exported on mac in 1.3

2011-01-11 Thread Matthias Melcher
On 11.01.2011, at 14:58, Manolo Gouy wrote: This is bad. The xid should be available to the user. Isn't the fl_xid(const Fl_Window*) function (documented in the OS issues section) enough ? first_window, btw., is a static member of Fl_Window in FLTK2 (or rather fltk::Window). I find

Re: [fltk.development] Fl_X not exported on mac in 1.3

2011-01-11 Thread MacArthur, Ian (SELEX GALILEO, UK)
What do folk think? I'd say don't expose, because it's internal and can be changed. If we really need to expose some of the internals that are not available now, then we should write accessor methods that do it in a defined way. Except that we used to expose it on all hosts, and now

Re: [fltk.development] Fl_X not exported on mac in 1.3

2011-01-11 Thread MacArthur, Ian (SELEX GALILEO, UK)
This is bad. The xid should be available to the user. Isn't the fl_xid(const Fl_Window*) function (documented in the OS issues section) enough ? I tend to agree, and that's what I've used in my code (where I have needed this functionality) but it may still be a change that has side

Re: [fltk.development] Doc file missing from RC3 tarball

2011-01-11 Thread Michael Sweet
On Jan 10, 2011, at 1:14 PM, imacart...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/01/11 20:42, Greg Ercolano wrote: I haven't tried this myself, but can the FLTK html viewer even show our doxygen docs correctly? Short answer: Not it can not. Neither the frames or the non-frames versions of the

Re: [fltk.development] Fl_X not exported on mac in 1.3

2011-01-11 Thread Michael Sweet
On Jan 11, 2011, at 1:21 AM, MacArthur, Ian (SELEX GALILEO, UK) wrote: I just updated to the head of 1.3, and my app failed to compile, complaining that Fl_X was undefined. Looking at FL/mac.H, it looks like it's intentionally hidden when compiling against an application. Hiding system

Re: [fltk.development] Doc file missing from RC3 tarball

2011-01-11 Thread Greg Ercolano
Michael Sweet wrote: Would it make sense to provide a separate help file for FLUID, and then use that as the test file for the help_viewer demo? That sounds good, as I don't think the FLTK doxygen docs cover fluid anyway. ___ fltk-dev

Re: [fltk.development] Doc file missing from RC3 tarball

2011-01-11 Thread Greg Ercolano
Albrecht Schlosser wrote: Thus, we shouldn't bother to provide a main.html file, but rather add a sample html page for the html viewer test (as Greg volunteered to do already) and add appropriate browser links where needed. Mike might have a point about making separate simple fluid

Re: [fltk.development] Doc file missing from RC3 tarball

2011-01-11 Thread Greg Ercolano
Greg Ercolano wrote: Michael Sweet wrote: Would it make sense to provide a separate help file for FLUID, and then use that as the test file for the help_viewer demo? That sounds good, as I don't think the FLTK doxygen docs cover fluid anyway. ..or I guess I never read them!

Re: [fltk.development] Doc file missing from RC3 tarball

2011-01-11 Thread Albrecht Schlosser
On 11.01.2011, at 18:15, Greg Ercolano wrote: Albrecht Schlosser wrote: Thus, we shouldn't bother to provide a main.html file, but rather add a sample html page for the html viewer test (as Greg volunteered to do already) and add appropriate browser links where needed. Mike might have

[fltk.development] RFC: Versioning FLTK 1.3.x online docs

2011-01-11 Thread Albrecht Schlosser
I'm thinking of making the online docs version-specific, i.e. instead of having http://www.fltk.org/doc-1.3/index.html we should probably have http://www.fltk.org/doc-1.3.0/index.html http://www.fltk.org/doc-1.3.1/index.html ... Reasoning: The doxygen'erated HTML docs change their

Re: [fltk.development] RFC: Versioning FLTK 1.3.x online docs

2011-01-11 Thread Michael Sweet
On Jan 11, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: ... Mike, what about server space and... ? Server space isn't an issue - about 500GB free on our RAID at the moment. I would probably limit what is shown/linked to on the documentation page to the most recent version - that will make

Re: [fltk.development] Doc file missing from RC3 tarball

2011-01-11 Thread Duncan Gibson
Mike: Would it make sense to provide a separate help file for FLUID, and then use that as the test file for the help_viewer demo? Greg: That sounds good, as I don't think the FLTK doxygen docs cover fluid anyway. Greg: ..or I guess I never read them! Well bite my tongue,

Re: [fltk.development] FLTK 1.3.0 RC 3 released!

2011-01-11 Thread Albrecht Schlosser
On 10.01.2011 19:35, Boris Mayer-St-Onge wrote: I did some test on Fedora 10 and 14 with current svn(8241). No major problem. Thanks. Here are some suggestions: 1- When compiling fltk, at the end one have === making documentation === This making ... specifies the directory that is

Re: [fltk.development] Doc file missing from RC3 tarball

2011-01-11 Thread Albrecht Schlosser
On 11.01.2011 18:48, Greg Ercolano wrote: Greg Ercolano wrote: Michael Sweet wrote: Would it make sense to provide a separate help file for FLUID, and then use that as the test file for the help_viewer demo? That sounds good, as I don't think the FLTK doxygen docs cover fluid

Re: [fltk.development] FLTK 1.3.0 RC 3 released!

2011-01-11 Thread Albrecht Schlosser
On 11.01.2011 21:05, Albrecht Schlosser wrote: On 10.01.2011 19:35, Boris Mayer-St-Onge wrote: Also, there is 2 copyright in this page with year 2010. Maybe change it to 2011? Sigh. We just changed all copyright dates to 2010, but now it's already 2011. Time goes by... I'll see what I can

Re: [fltk.development] Doc file missing from RC3 tarball

2011-01-11 Thread Greg Ercolano
Duncan Gibson wrote: Greg: ..or I guess I never read them! Well bite my tongue, apparently there /are/ doxygen fluid docs: http://fltk.org/doc-1.3/fluid.html The problem with this page is that it's too complicated for new users learning fluid. If someone is going to write a fluid

Re: [fltk.development] Doc file missing from RC3 tarball

2011-01-11 Thread Greg Ercolano
Albrecht Schlosser wrote: In that doc it could link to the local and/or website docs, eg: FLTK Docs:A HREF=file://path/to/localdocs/html/index.html(local)/A The above would be an autoconfigured path, or optional an expanded environment variable? Good