The online catalog is wonderful!
Praise, peacock eggs and riches from the east for Owen and Sol, what
a fine job!
http://www.fluxus.org/FLUXLIST/box1/fbindexm.html
thank you thank you thank you
If you could convince us to buy your music you can convince the world ;-)
My music is not for sale.
Myke
Myke,
The point is that if people are going to routinely rip music from
CDs and distribute them via the internet or other means to their
They only do it with their favourite music, I would never do it with
Metallica, I once did it with Ratex X, a 400 kb file in 8 bits per
second... The
MP3 and the internet are the death knell to all that as far as I'm
concerned. Everybody's having a lot of fun doing things with the
If you put yourself in such a position, out of time. Its the time of
digitalisation. CD ripping is something completely different in
soundquatity than taping
Hi Myke !
to the public. By keeping them all to myself I can rest assured that
no anonymous scum out there will ever snub me with some stupid
philosophical argument that what I create is not mine and can be
There are no such philosophical arguments.
freely distributed by anyone to anyone
works with others who would have an appreciation for them - and at
first I believed the internet would open doors to me that were always
closed before. Now I see that this just is not the case.
Dont understand this. Is it for the copyright thing, private copying or
what ? Nobody can sell
There are no such philosophical arguments.
There is maybe one aspect somehow philosophical, the end of the "artist"
as some individual. How do the many voices on those mididisk things
contribute ? They do the music.
Another case is sampling. But you also can say, that is boring, why not
Another case is sampling.
I frequently sample from CDs of well-known artists when I create
music of my own, however, the fun of that for me is to then take
the sampled sound and process it so that it is completely unrecognizeable.
I created an instrumental in 1994 called "Resurgence (A Night
Nobody can sell your works against your will, play it in the radio
etc. Musicians have never had control over private copying.
The point is that if people are going to routinely rip music from
CDs and distribute them via the internet or other means to their
friends and associates then at some
Ymphony!s are recorded compositions. If I ever need something to
accompany a live performance, they can be handy when no other intended
sound is available.
I am simply on the side of Metallica with this one. I buy a lot of
CDs and am happy to financially support the artists who entertain me.
Let he who is a painter, first cast good. (From Don, the sculptor)
Two articles on the subject that I've found interest are:
Information as a global public good:A right to knowledge and communication
Oxfam International campaign proposal
by Danny Yee
http://danny.oz.au/free-software/advocacy/oicampaign.html
The Value of Gnutella and Freenet
by Andy Oram
BP writes:
" What are good paintings ?
What good are paintings !
a good painting is without sin"
Let he who is a good painting cast the first stone!
Let he who is a good painting cast the first stone!
Let he who is good and stoned paint my cast.
Myke
In a message dated 05/11/2000 11:46:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Let he who is painting stones first cast good.
Let he who is first in the cast paint stones for good.
Let good she who is cast repaint the stones.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 05/11/2000 11:46:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Let he who is painting stones first cast good.
Let he who is first in the cast paint stones for good.
Let good she who is cast repaint the stones.
Often it is best
The Concept of Copyright Fights for
Internet Survival
By JOHN MARKOFF
While American courts struggle over the recording industry's
challenge to digital music swapping, Ian Clarke, a 23-year-old
Irish programmer, is moving on to the next battleground. He is finishing a
program that he
He who paints good gets stoned first.
T.
What are good paintings ?
What good are paintings !
Myke
I was going to say that. Blooming heck!
You have to be quick in this Fluxgame.
In a message dated 05/10/2000 7:05:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What are good paintings ?
What good are paintings !
a good painting is without sin
What are good paintings ?
What good are paintings !
Myke
On the front page of today's NYTimes:
The Concept of Copyright Fights for Internet Survival
http://www.nytimes.com/library/tech/00/05/biztech/articles/10digital.html
At 07:24 pm -0400 10/5/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 05/10/2000 7:05:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What are good paintings ?
What good are paintings !
a good painting is without sin
a break with their very concept of painting
m. duchamp
Myke Lord Hasenpfeffer wrote:
My point was that
it only takes a split-second to view an entire image.
Like the artist (who!) who finally made it to the Vatican five
minutes before museum closing time, craned his grizzled head to the
Ceiling, possibly licked a finger, and said, "okay, I've seen
Well, maybe this is why it's hard for people to see paintings nowadays.
They expect to see everything at once. 2D work and sculpture are also
temporal, even though they do not move. When I write reviews, I try to
always include some note on how long you need to look at the work to
start seeing
Paintings are experienced at once.
Albums are experienced through time.
And operas are pictures in time...
What are good paintings ?
I only wish that there was a visual-image equivalent to Napster. (Record
Gnutella. For everything..
Heiko Recktenwald wrote:
I only wish that there was a visual-image equivalent to Napster. (Record
Gnutella. For everything..
http://www.sltrib.com/05082000/business/47375.htm
So it would seem. Spreads easily..
Hi all,
Different bands have different views regarding mp3. Public Enemy have
championed mp3 and are probably one of the few high-earning artists to do
so. It seems clear to me that mp3 is not taking money away from anyone but
helping to build up a fan base and get music out to people that want
From "The Terrordome", an article by Chuck D. of Public Enemy.
First I like to get directly to the points
1. The day of the one dimensional naïve artist is over
2. 95% of all music will be free, at least for a period
3. The whole financial structure of the entertainment business is in the
I only wish that there was a visual-image equivalent to Napster. (Record
Gnutella. For everything..
http://www.sltrib.com/05082000/business/47375.htm
So it would seem. Spreads easily..
There is a search engine with gnutella, but I am not so fast like you with
URLs, well,
To All:
I'm at the day job (the artist at the day job, heh heh) now, so do not have
references in front of me, but I've learned much from the input on this
subject, and have calmed down a bit from my initial kneejerk response as a
visual artist. While I agree with Ann wholeheartedly about the
In a message dated 05/09/2000 2:07:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
A composer is a dead man unless he composes for all the media and
for his world."
This reminds me of Month Python's Decomposing Composer song. Thanks Patricia,
and if yr up to it, I'd love to see the
And what you do with it sounds promising !! Couldnt you burn something ?
What exactly are you saying/asking?
I don't understand your message.
Myke
syquest 135 is/was better to use and faster but zip became the standard.
Another example. Why must we always settle for less?
I still find the microphone handeling awkward.
www.minidisco.com has three stereo mics available.
They are all small and custom made which makes them a bit pricey
I still find the microphone handeling awkward. Maybe there is an ear
implant mike in the future.
www.minidisco.com also has a stereo mic which can be attached to your
sunglasses' earpieces.
Myke
Paintings are experienced at once.
Albums are experienced through time.
Myke
Paintings and sculpture and related works in the visual medium
are created over time and experienced over time, anew - again and
again and again.
And so it is with audial art.
Best,
PK
Lord Hasenpfeffer wrote:
Paintings are experienced at once.
Albums are experienced through time.
Myke
On Tue, 9 May 2000, Lord Hasenpfeffer wrote:
syquest 135 is/was better to use and faster but zip became the standard.
Another example. Why must we always settle for less?
"... modern marketing."
I still find the microphone handeling awkward.
www.minidisco.com has three stereo mics
I tend to sit in one place for the duration of the 74 minute MD
'recording session.'
I've got a few tapes like that from way back when. Without any
serious editing capabilities for cassette like there is for MiniDisc,
however, I never really enjoyed the results unless there were a lot
of
Terrence writes;
excellent intuitive set up. I'll check it out minidisco.com now.
btw can you control off the unit, as is there a way to remote pause/record on the
mic line in?
Nice to have a hand on the unit (he he) but it is slippery, I added stick on
neopream bumpers on my sony minidisc
{ brad brace } wrote:
I was most surprised 'to hear' that all the chants and
stomping that the fans do during the game are prompted by
prerecorded/broadcasts in the stadium.
Terrence writes;
It is even less obvious to all, but the thinking eye and mind, that the art
Napster sums it up for me. "It's the latest move in Metallica's campaign
against youth culture and fun."
Alex
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Subject: FLUXLIST: Napste
I would be outraged at others taking my work
without my permission and sharing it. Let alone the loss of
income.
I would think a majority of recording artists do what they do on
a full time basis. Take away their income and they'll find another
means by which to earn a living. I believe
Well to put my two cents in on this issue...there is a good side and a bad
side to it. As a creative musician who produces music that major labels do
not deem as commercially viable, mp3.com and napster are a great way to get
your music out there. My Spiritpark webpage gets 20-30 hits and
I personally think MP3's are the coolest thing going.
No, I think that belongs to MiniDisc. I wish I knew why so many
people tend to think of audio files only in terms of the pre-recorded.
MP3s compress more than twice as much as do MiniDiscs and you just
can't go about with microphones on
of artists' rights. I would be outraged at others taking my work
without my permission and sharing it. Let alone the loss of
income.
This is an old topic, but if you are interested, I prefer gnutella,
because it works without central database.
And "privat copying" is ok. As it ever was.
. Maybe
it will change what it takes to "make it" as a musician.
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Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 11:36:59 -0400 (EDT)
I would be outraged
But you can record it with minidisk and convert it to mp3 in a second
step. For email etc.
True, but there are a gazillion people out there who think they have
no use for MiniDiscs because they have MP3 capability. For some crazy
reason, people see them as competing mediums when really MP3
Terrence writes;
I think trading is OK. Kids used to trade pogs. It's not much different with
pop music that is specifically aimed at exploiting a youth market, especially
Metalica; ~pogs dun dun dun dun draang drannng dun dun dun dun dun pogs
pogs pogs.~
T.
Sol Nte wrote:
- all the
Sol wrote in response to Patricia:
I think that's the case here. People are too hung up on possibly losing
money that they haven't even made yet - all the artists who complain about
this kind of thing are loaded anyway.when it comes down to it you can't
really own anything. You come
lectures, all the furniture of fame) and less from the actual sale of works,
whereas lesser-known writers who derived a larger proportion of income from
actual sales of works favored copyright. So it's been kind of a little-guy
Think it was about libraries, what should they pay to the authors
Can we ask bands to return cd money for the portion of the cds that aren't
any good? Like when you have to buy a whole cd to get two or three songs you
really like? Why do we have to pay for all the songs when we don't want em?
How about we cut out the bits of paintings we don't like, too, and demand our
money back? How come people who complain about spending their hardearned money
on art always follow up by criticizing artists for being too desirous of money?
Like bitching about spending an extra ten bucks isn't
Terrence writes;
Paintings are different. They are more like a fabulous concert played only once.
They are one of a kind. (Mp3's are more like cheap posters but better). Packaged
and distributed cd's are the fancy seriographs. But you know the new money making
concept for soft media. Design once
Terrence writes,
Minidisc and has the size and tactilty and physical archiving/ labeling
and I prefer. Anything that makes the recording and handling pleasurable
is great.
syquest 135 is/was better to use and faster but zip became the standard.
Even if it gets skipped as a standard Minidisc
I only wish that there was a visual-image equivalent to Napster. (Record
companies don't pay the majority of 'their artists' much at all. The Net
will eventually provide a much better income/audience for artists.)
Check-out the following message; these folks project my 12hr-images in
UK
In a message dated 05/08/2000 6:20:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How about we cut out the bits of paintings we don't like, too, and demand
our
money back? How come people who complain about spending their hardearned
money
on art always follow up by criticizing
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