Re: Redesign issues

2002-12-09 Thread Peter B. West
Arved Sandstrom wrote: I actually helped push for this last year - the notion of separate layout managers. I was strongly influenced by the mess that FOP code had become at the time, and really thought that layout should be taken out of the FOs themselves; that the FO's, in a sense, were (or

RE: Redesign issues

2002-12-09 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Mon, 2002-12-09 at 01:00, Arved Sandstrom wrote: I actually helped push for this last year - the notion of separate layout managers. I was strongly influenced by the mess that FOP code had become at the time, and really thought that layout should be taken out of the FOs themselves; that the

Re: Redesign issues

2002-12-09 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Joerg, These are the issues that you have mentioned before. It is still essentially only attacking two methods (and supporting classes). If you have a better design, then do it. On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 00:16, J.Pietschmann wrote: deep inheritance hierarchies. There is only so much someone can

cvs commit: xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/design/alt.design AbsolutePosition-png.xml BorderCommonStyle-png.xml PropNames-png.xml Properties-png.xml PropertyConsts-png.xml VerticalAlign-png.xml book.xml classes-overview.xml AbsolutePosition.png.xml BorderCommonStyle.png.xml PropNames.png.xml Properties.png.xml PropertyConsts.png.xml VerticalAlign.png.xml

2002-12-09 Thread keiron
keiron 2002/12/09 00:45:16 Modified:src/documentation/content/xdocs news.xml status.xml src/documentation/content/xdocs/design/alt.design book.xml classes-overview.xml Added: src/documentation/content/xdocs/design/alt.design

Re: todo

2002-12-09 Thread Keiron Liddle
Hi Oleg, I think writing direction would be a good addition. I am hoping to bring back all the renderers and this is one issue that need to be considered. ie. how it is handled in the area tree and how renderers deal with it, sorting out width/height vs. ipd/bpd On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 18:30,

RE: Redesign issues

2002-12-09 Thread Keiron Liddle
On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 15:43, Rhett Aultman wrote: We have a Wiki that seems to have been a good way of quickly throwing up ideas for style guidelines and voting on them. Why don't we do the same thing here? We could throw up our ideas, try to sort them into lofty, long term stuff and

cvs commit: xml-fop/docs/xml-docs/data logo.svg track.svg

2002-12-09 Thread keiron
keiron 2002/12/09 02:52:27 Modified:docs/xml-docs/data logo.svg track.svg Log: updated Revision ChangesPath 1.3 +11 -11xml-fop/docs/xml-docs/data/logo.svg Index: logo.svg === RCS file:

cvs commit: xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/render/pdf PDFXMLHandler.java

2002-12-09 Thread keiron
keiron 2002/12/09 03:18:58 Modified:src/org/apache/fop/render/pdf PDFXMLHandler.java Log: use more decimal places for scaling Revision ChangesPath 1.12 +5 -5 xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/render/pdf/PDFXMLHandler.java Index: PDFXMLHandler.java

cvs commit: xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/apps LayoutHandler.java

2002-12-09 Thread keiron
keiron 2002/12/09 03:22:35 Modified:src/org/apache/fop/apps LayoutHandler.java Log: added some comments and changed debugging a bit Revision ChangesPath 1.8 +63 -20xml-fop/src/org/apache/fop/apps/LayoutHandler.java Index: LayoutHandler.java

Re: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-12-09 Thread Peter B. West
J.Pietschmann wrote: Victor Mote wrote: Just to be clear, I should point out that there is not a layout that is impossible to perform. There are layouts for which it is very hard to decide what to do. Consider the following: fo:root xmlns:fo=http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format;

Re: Redesign issues

2002-12-09 Thread Peter B. West
Keiron Liddle wrote: I still believe that it is useful to have the layout managers separate from the fo tree. There are a number of reasons that come to mind. It is possible to independantly change layout managers. Certain fo's aren't directly in the same hierarchy: markers, undefined table

ready for Release Candidate

2002-12-09 Thread Christian Geisert
Hi all, I've (finally) updated the build process to the new Forrest docs and I'm ready now for doing the Release Candidate. If this is ok for everybody I'll do it later today. Christian - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: png image problem

2002-12-09 Thread Christian Geisert
IvanLatysh wrote: Hi. I am experience problem when I am trying to get output from the FOP as png. Images are not shown in the result png. Could someone help me with it. First of all you need to tell us which FOP version you are using. If it's 0.20.4 you need to download Jimi from SUN at:

Re: bsf.jar

2002-12-09 Thread Christian Geisert
Oleg Tkachenko wrote: Christian Geisert wrote: I just noticed bsf.jar in the lib directory and IIRC it was needed by xalan1. As we switched to xalan2 some time ago is it ok for everyone if I remove bsf.jar? btw, isn't bsf.jar used by xalan2 to process extensions? Yes it's needed for

cvs commit: xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs compliance.xml

2002-12-09 Thread vmote
vmote 2002/12/09 09:26:10 Modified:src/documentation/content/xdocs compliance.xml Log: fixes from review of W3C standard, Implemented doc, and Limitations doc Revision ChangesPath 1.5 +29 -9 xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/compliance.xml Index:

cvs commit: xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs faq.xml

2002-12-09 Thread vmote
vmote 2002/12/09 11:37:44 Modified:src/documentation/content/xdocs faq.xml Log: Expanded FAQs related to PDF post-processing. Revision ChangesPath 1.5 +25 -14xml-fop/src/documentation/content/xdocs/faq.xml Index: faq.xml

RE: Redesign issues

2002-12-09 Thread Arved Sandstrom
-Original Message- From: Peter B. West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: December 9, 2002 8:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Redesign issues Keiron Liddle wrote: I still believe that it is useful to have the layout managers separate from the fo tree. There are a

Re: Getting breaks: revisited

2002-12-09 Thread J.Pietschmann
Peter B. West wrote: ...the intention of the spec would be realised by laying out 0 of the repeatable-p-m-refs thin, out of the available range of 0-100, then laying out 1 of the thick r-p-m-refs. Interesting and useful interpretation. The problem is, how to implement this? J.Pietschmann

Re: Redesign issues

2002-12-09 Thread J.Pietschmann
Keiron Liddle wrote: These are the issues that you have mentioned before. It is still essentially only attacking two methods (and supporting classes). Unfortunately, these are the core methods, essential for understanding the whole approach. If you have a better design, then do it. I put a

RE: Redesign issues

2002-12-09 Thread Rhett Aultman
Response below. -Original Message- From: J.Pietschmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Redesign issues Keiron Liddle wrote: These are the issues that you have mentioned before. It is still essentially only attacking

Getting FOP running on Mac OS X

2002-12-09 Thread Clay Leeds
Howdy, FYI, I had a problem running FOP on my Mac OS X system. Here's the error I got: [webmaestro-mac:Users/Shared/fop-0.20.4] clay% ./fop.sh -d -xml /Users/clay/Desktop/HuiBro/test_MIWC.xml -xsl /Users/clay/Desktop/HuiBro/xml_med7_MIWC.fo -awt Exception in thread main

RE: Getting FOP running on Mac OS X

2002-12-09 Thread Victor Mote
Clay Leeds wrote: The files were ZIP'd, and when they were unZIP'd using Stuffit Expander, the avalon JAR file's long filename was changed from: avalon-framework-cvs-20020315.jar to: avalon-framework-cvs-20020315.j Adding ar at the end of that filename, resolved the problem, and I

RE: Getting FOP running on Mac OS X

2002-12-09 Thread Stephen Bannasch
It is possible the latest StuffIt Expanders work properly for filenames longer than 31 chars but it is a known problem. OS X can use much longer filenames. I include the following when I put up archives: MacOSX Note: Don't use Stuffit to expand the archive. Use the following shell command

Re: Getting FOP running on Mac OS X

2002-12-09 Thread Sébastien Aperghis-Tramoni
On Monday, December 9, 2002, at 11:54 PM, Victor Mote wrote: Clay Leeds wrote: The files were ZIP'd, and when they were unZIP'd using Stuffit Expander, the avalon JAR file's long filename was changed from: avalon-framework-cvs-20020315.jar to: avalon-framework-cvs-20020315.j Adding

cvs commit: xml-fop/docs/design/alt.design AbsolutePosition.dia PropNames.dia PropertyConsts.dia Properties.dia VerticalAlign.dia

2002-12-09 Thread pbwest
pbwest 2002/12/09 15:41:00 Removed: docs/design/alt.design AbsolutePosition.dia PropNames.dia PropertyConsts.dia Properties.dia VerticalAlign.dia Log: No longer required. - To unsubscribe,

Re: Alt-Design: Preliminary results FO tree build test

2002-12-09 Thread Peter B. West
Peter B. West wrote: Keiron Liddle wrote: On Fri, 2002-12-06 at 03:47, Peter B. West wrote: If anyone else want to have a look I would be interested in the results. I am particularly interested in memory usage, which, prima facie, looks good. 9 megs total memory usage for 51 pages of FO

src/documentation/README

2002-12-09 Thread Victor Mote
Keiron and Nicola Ken (and anyone else who is interested): I have the process of building the fop web site mostly scripted at /home/vmote/script/build-fop-website.bsh. I have a couple of problems/questions, which I will interject into the src/documentation/README doc contents below: The current

RE: Getting FOP running on Mac OS X

2002-12-09 Thread Victor Mote
Clay Leeds wrote: This is fine, but I think it would be better to state something like: MacOSX Note: Use the following shell command to extract FOP under Mac OS X: tar -xzf source.tar.gz If you use Stuffit to expand the archive, the following filename: