Re: XMLGraphics temp site up (was Re: Can we please disable the Wiki on Nagoya?)

[Thomas DeWeese]

Hi Guys,
   Well, I must admit to not being really excited by the new logo.
Not to hurt people's feelings, note that it is good, but I think it
could be better.  None of these are really strong held but are my
opinions.
As it currently is I actually prefer the 'non svg shapes'
version as the used shapes are rather simplistic (it makes it looks
like an 80's graphics package).
The text is a bit hard to read over the Apache feather.  I
know that you added the white surround and it helps but the letters
still 'disappear' into the noise of the feather more than I would
like.
   Now for a few suggestions:
I have seen some of the Apache projects that left justify
the text and move the feather up next to the 'The Apache'. This
would work well for us since 'XML Graphics Project' is quite a
bit longer.
The URL in the corner is the old xml.apache.org URL, it
should of course be xmlgraphics.apache.org (Ideally I'd like
to turn this 90deg and have it run vertically, but it's too long
to be readable when this is done).
If we want to have 'svg' in the logo I would look at the
samples directory of Batik[1] and pull out some of those.  The one's
that come to mind would be either of the map images (mapSpain,
mapWaadt - which could be used pretty much 'as is') or perhaps
grab elements from sunRise (although that is a little 'eclipse' like).
My actual preference would be to include 'icons' from the sub
projects in the new logo.  For Batik this is simple since we already
use the 'squiggle' heavily for this purpose (this is the
red/green/blue mark in a bunch of places).  I don't know if FOP has a
similar readily available icon you could use.  I would picture these
icons 'looped' together in a clear area on the right side (think
of an infinity sign with the batik logo on one side and Fop on the
other).  As more projects join we can add icons for them to the
looping.  Alternately we could come up with a new icon just for
XML Graphics (a complex 'document' with the corner turned and
on the back is XML - might be hard to pull off in a ~51px square)
[1] http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/xml-batik/test-references/samples/
Glen Mazza wrote:
Very nice--I like the xmlgraphics logo, and the layout of the text is 
well done.  I think in general having fewer pages but of higher quality 
is preferable.
Glen

Clay Leeds wrote:
On Oct 9, 2004, at 1:30 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote:

While we're talking about volunteers, when the resolution passes we will
have some work to do, creating a charter, setting up a website for XML
Graphics which will link to the two existing websites under XML and a
few other things. I intent to do a good part of this but I hope I will
get some help.

I've placed a temporary xmlgraphics.apache.org site live on my 
homepage. Please take a look and provide feedback and comments:

http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/xml-fop/xml-graphics/

Re: XMLGraphics temp site up (was Re: Can we please disable the Wiki on Nagoya?)

[Glen Mazza]

[Clay]
>More thoughts and comments?
One site that may serve as a source for more ideas is the Apache Web 
Services TLP:  http://ws.apache.org/.

Glen

Re: XMLGraphics temp site up (was Re: Can we please disable the Wiki on Nagoya?)

[Glen Mazza]

Very nice--I like the xmlgraphics logo, and the layout of the text is 
well done.  I think in general having fewer pages but of higher quality 
is preferable. 

Glen
Clay Leeds wrote:
On Oct 9, 2004, at 1:30 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote:

While we're talking about volunteers, when the resolution passes we will
have some work to do, creating a charter, setting up a website for XML
Graphics which will link to the two existing websites under XML and a
few other things. I intent to do a good part of this but I hope I will
get some help.

I've placed a temporary xmlgraphics.apache.org site live on my 
homepage. Please take a look and provide feedback and comments:

http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/xml-fop/xml-graphics/

XMLGraphics temp site up (was Re: Can we please disable the Wiki on Nagoya?)

[Clay Leeds]

On Oct 9, 2004, at 1:30 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote:

While we're talking about volunteers, when the resolution passes we 
will
have some work to do, creating a charter, setting up a website for XML
Graphics which will link to the two existing websites under XML and a
few other things. I intent to do a good part of this but I hope I will
get some help.
I've placed a temporary xmlgraphics.apache.org site live on my 
homepage. Please take a look and provide feedback and comments:

http://homepage.mac.com/webmaestro/xml-fop/xml-graphics/
A couple of things to note:
- this 'site' is only one page and links to current FOP & Batik sites
- breadcrumb is Javascript, based on path/to/dir/ so it looks funny
- I'm open to suggestions!
A couple of ideas for enhancement:
- tabs for Apache.org & xml.apache.org (others?)
- links page (although FOP & Batik probably have that covered)
- PMC page
- other xmlgraphics-related pages?
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Re: Can we please disable the Wiki on Nagoya?

[Clay Leeds]

On Oct 8, 2004, at 4:21 PM, Christian Geisert wrote:
Clay Leeds schrieb:
Sounds good to me. What do we need to do to make it so?
See http://wiki.apache.org/general/HowToMakeWikiAdminRequests
and http://wiki.apache.org/general/UseModMigration
Christian
Looks like I'll need to become a member of 'apsite' group, so I can 
make the necessary changes.

-bash-2.05b$ groups
clay apcvs xml
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XML Graphics hostname (was Re: Can we please disable the Wiki on Nagoya?)

[Clay Leeds]

On Oct 9, 2004, at 1:30 AM, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
While we're talking about volunteers, when the resolution passes we  
will
have some work to do, creating a charter, setting up a website for XML
Graphics which will link to the two existing websites under XML and a
few other things. I intent to do a good part of this but I hope I will
get some help.
On that note... what will the new hostname (I think that's the  
terminology) for the Apache XML Graphics be called?

We probably will need to 'vote' on this until after the Apache XML  
Graphics PMC is created (if we even need to vote on this). My  
preferences is for option [2], as it helps clarify and emphasize the  
two aspects of the new project "xml" & "graphics", which I think will  
help with branding. There may be other ideas on how it should look, but  
these are a few

We've already pretty much decided that FOP[4] & Batik[5] will retain  
their web site structure, so the new Apache XML Graphics site will have  
links. I don't recall if there are any other projects that fall under  
the umbrella, and didn't notice any in this thread[6].

[1]
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/
[2]
http://xml-graphics.apache.org/
[3]
http://xml.graphics.apache.org/
[4]
http://xml.apache.org/fop/
[5]
http://xml.apache.org/batik/
[6]
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/BrowseList? 
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Re: Can we please disable the Wiki on Nagoya?

[Jeremias Maerki]

Thanks, Clay and Christian, for taking care of this.

I'm also still waiting for the TLP go. From certain statements I
expected the resolution to pass last week, but I guess they're busy. The
next regular board meeting is on Wed, 20 Oct 2004. I'm inclined to give
them a chance until right after the meeting.

While we're talking about volunteers, when the resolution passes we will
have some work to do, creating a charter, setting up a website for XML
Graphics which will link to the two existing websites under XML and a
few other things. I intent to do a good part of this but I hope I will
get some help.

On 09.10.2004 01:21:26 Christian Geisert wrote:
> Jeremias Maerki schrieb:
> > Any volunteers?
> 
> I did already volunteer some time ago[1] ;-)
> But I'm still waiting for xml-graphics tlp ...
> 
> [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listId=63&msgNo=8321



Jeremias Maerki

Re: Can we please disable the Wiki on Nagoya?

[Christian Geisert]

Clay Leeds schrieb:
Sounds good to me. What do we need to do to make it so?
See http://wiki.apache.org/general/HowToMakeWikiAdminRequests
and http://wiki.apache.org/general/UseModMigration
Christian

Re: Fw: Can we please disable the Wiki on Nagoya?

[Christian Geisert]

Jeremias Maerki schrieb:
Any volunteers?
I did already volunteer some time ago[1] ;-)
But I'm still waiting for xml-graphics tlp ...
[1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listId=63&msgNo=8321

Re: Can we please disable the Wiki on Nagoya?

[Clay Leeds]

Sounds good to me. What do we need to do to make it so?
Web Maestro Clay
On Oct 8, 2004, at 12:10 PM, Jeremias Maerki wrote:
Any volunteers?
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 From:Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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 Date:Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:02:18 +0200
 Subject: Can we please disable the Wiki on Nagoya?

Hi,
a quick look at
<http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?RecentChanges> should
tell you why.
During the past weeks there have been at most four or five real
content edits per week.  At the same time our Wiki has attracted an
asian spammer that seems to be switching IP addresses so that blocking
probably won't work (at least I failed to see a system).
There still seem to be a few projects that use this Wiki instance
instead of wiki.apache.org, namely Axis, XML general, Pluto and maybe
FOP.
I hope that some people of those projects are subscribed here.  Please
ask for your own Wiki instance (with access control and commit mails)
and let's turn off that unmaintained thing.
Stefan
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Fw: Can we please disable the Wiki on Nagoya?

[Jeremias Maerki]

Any volunteers?


Forwarded by Jeremias Maerki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
--- Original Message ---
 From:Stefan Bodewig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 To:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:02:18 +0200
 Subject: Can we please disable the Wiki on Nagoya?


Hi,

a quick look at
<http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?RecentChanges> should
tell you why.

During the past weeks there have been at most four or five real
content edits per week.  At the same time our Wiki has attracted an
asian spammer that seems to be switching IP addresses so that blocking
probably won't work (at least I failed to see a system).

There still seem to be a few projects that use this Wiki instance
instead of wiki.apache.org, namely Axis, XML general, Pluto and maybe
FOP.

I hope that some people of those projects are subscribed here.  Please
ask for your own Wiki instance (with access control and commit mails)
and let's turn off that unmaintained thing.

Stefan

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